under construction: French brig WIP

[Commander Scar]

168D

Ohoy mates!

Here's my first proper attempt of a sailship and my first MOC here. I built this ship 1,5 years ago and had even started rigging her. But for some reason I desided to wreak the whole ship. Only few small parts survived my sudden rage. But yesterday I began bulding her again. She'll be a french brig with probably 18 guns. But remember this is just an early version of the ship and many things will be changed.

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More pictures lower..

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The quarter deck will be huge, half of her lenght. It will start at the black slope piece amidship. It will also be removable to allow acces to the deck below.

BTW apologies for the bad photo quality . Also the paper backround is merely because I have a glass table.

Now, Dread Pirate Wesley's Pickle ( http://www.eurobrick...opic=53767&st=0 ) was the main inspiration for the hull tecnique, so big thanks for him. Here's a pic from the bow showing the smart solution to make a lower hull.

The black area is the deck below the quarterdeck (I don't know what would it be called, main deck?). I don't like the big holes between the deck plates and the walls so I'll have to think more about that. Ideas are appreciated .

Here's a view from the starboard side showing her siluette. The stern will probably stay straight like now, but the bow shall be changed quite a bit.

A drawing of her siluette. I'm thinking about moving and lowering the bowsprit to make it look more... ohmm, normal .

"Our entire crue welcomes you all onboard the ship and wishes you a pleasant journey."

Thank you! Comments and suggestions are appreciated. My sail ship knowledge is not great, but I'm trying.

-Commander Scar

[Cagast]

You are trying good. I like the shape, keep building.

[kurigan]

It looks as though this could be a really good start, it's just too early to tell much. There is a long road ahead, but I'd encourage you to keep with it. The one thing I can't stress enough is, reference material. Weather you're simply using images off google, period drafts or some where in between, having something to compare to if not model after is invaluable.

I find the proposed placement of her guns curious. It's not unheard of, but was uncommon to have the battery so divided. It seems more conventional to continue along the gun deck before moving up to the quarter deck. 

I like this DPW/Pickle hull type and the shape it gives. I once looked to it my self for inspiration when reconsidering my technique. I might suggest the addition of some 3937c01 to the sides to give her some tumble home. As for the gaps below deck, consider a SNOT deck. It may not completely eliminate gaps, but using plates to stagger closer to the walls they could get unnoticeably small.

Keep at it, thanks for sharing and if I can help, let me know.

[Captain Braunsfeld]

Welcome to Eurobricks, Commander Scar.

It's a fine project, you are undertaking - best of luck.

Color-wise I perfectly agree (using yellow myself quite often).

The crew looks fine and the gallion reminds me somehow of my brig "India"

I have not attempted to build a ship like this, so I cannot really help. Surely Kurigan has a point here and there - you might want to consider his advise.

Brick on!

[Commander Scar]

Hola hola fellow bricklovers!

First of all thanks to you guys for commenting. I appreciate.

As for my reference material, my brig experience is limited to the 20 minutes I spent looking photos on google . Ok, I did do some research on brigs, about the rigging, sails etc...

I disagree with Kurigan about the tumble home. On a ship of this size and type, the walls would be (or as far as I know) straight, like in this picture. http://upload.wikime..._brig_model.jpg

Of course on a bigger different kind of ship like a frigate, things would be different.

Maybe the ships aft looks a little boring, but that would change if I made the stern galley come out of the hull, like in a frigate or so... I have link to a picture later in this post.

But as Kurigan said the battery being divided on two decks was a bit weird. So now the whole battery is on the main deck. It looks a LOT better now and is much more logical. Here's the new version. A lot of changes made. For example, the bow is completely new, the walls are now higher than before, making the quarter deck look lower (just as I wanted to happen). and definetly more to come..

The new bow. I'm quite happy how it turned out. Though the figure head is definetly not going to stay. The black tubes will probably be yellow in the future.

I'm still figuring out the deck, where everything will be: the capstain, hatches etc. . Also the stern needs lots of more work. I'm thinking of two options for the stern. First one is leaving it straight and simple like now, or the second, making it all fancy and frigateish like this one: http://3.bp.blogspot...Ontario-292.jpg

Quarter deck = removable . The aft of the ship bends upwords so a single piece of deck wouldn't have fitted. So i made the quarter deck in two pieces. It now fits well (the pieces overlap eachother a little) and after the rigging is in place the deck is also easier to remove.

But more coming in the future. I should actually be studying, cause I have my test week now, but I couldn't help building some improvements betweeen reading (read: instead of reading ). Thank you all, suggestions and ideas appreciated.

- Commander Scar

Edited November 20, 2014 by Commander Scar

[Commander Scar]

Arrrggg!!!

Test week is long gone, and I've ordered more bricks from BL with another order on the way. The first larger one arrived a few days ago, and I've been working with my ship...

So lots and lots of changes made. Biggest ones would be the new stern and the tan decks. The masts are close to being finished, and I've even started testing some standing rigging (running rigging and sails will also be included some day).

Again apologies for some blurry photos.

So the new tan decs. Well, not much to tell about them. They're tan exept for those 12x3 wedge plates. I think everything on the decks are now on their right spots. But I'm thinking of adding a horizontal capstain in front of the fore mast. If you know what I'm talking about. Also notice the stairs that don't lead anywhere.

I'm testing two types of pumps. The weird thing is that the guns have to be placed on top of those grey bricks so they are high enough for the gun ports. A compromise to achive nice shape and a closed deck under the quarterdeck. Here you can also see that the aft most gunport is a fake, maybe just to create an illusion of a larger battery.

And here's a shot from the stern. It will have more decorations in the future and perhaps a boat also. The gallery is stolen/copied borrowed from Admiral Croissant's Vesta.

And from the bow showing the mast. There's also the extension for the studding sails. And lots of useles pieces of rope.

And talking about the studding sails... They will be removable and connected something like this. I'll have to study more for those, and for the rest of the rigging and sails and everything.

Here's the foremasts crow's nest. It will have 2x3 wedges instead of those 2x3 plates and this will be black or brown.

And here are the teo types of cannons that will be stationed on her decks. A 18 pdr carronade (whitch could be redesigned) and a 12 pdr long gun. She'll have 12 long guns on the gun deck and 6 carronades, 4 on the quarterdeck and 2 at the bow.

"Those darn redcoats keep spying on us."

Thank you! Arrgg!

- C. Scar

Edited December 7, 2014 by Commander Scar

[Dread Pirate Wesley]

This is coming along very nicely! Glad that the Pickle was an inspiration, but you have improved the design quite a bit simply by adapting the technique from a schooner to a brig. Looking forward to seeing her completed

Dread Pirate Wesley

[Captain Braunsfeld]

You made significant progress, and everything looks great (from custom cannons to handmade rigging).

The missing wedges on the mast's crow nest would not worry me so much, but again, I am not such a purist when it comes to MOCcing.

Decorations for the gallery, that is missing (and I usually find it hard to have a good idea. So I end up using monkeys, etc. which I would not recommend for a serious model like yours).

Brick on!