Posted November 19, 201410 yr HI I see that on some moc's people user Technic Link with Stoppers and others they used Technic Link without Stoppers , is there a reason or is this just people using what they have . Just thinking if there is no difference I don't want to order them unnecessarily for recreating other peoples moc's. I normally used Technic Link with Stoppers and Technic Link without Stoppers interchangeably and never really ran into problems . Parts I am talking about Technic, Link 1 x 6 without Stoppers Technic Link 1 x 6 with Stoppers
November 19, 201410 yr They are two different parts (of course). On one of them you can insert the ball pin only from one side, on the other you can insert from both sides. I use whatever I have in my collection but I prefer the later model as it is more versatile. Edited November 19, 201410 yr by DrJB
November 19, 201410 yr depends which way in the ball joints will go - though if you force them the go in the wrong side of the stoppers one anyway and horror of all horrors you could always cut the tabs off if you were really desperate and needed to
November 19, 201410 yr You can insert ball pins from both sides into the part with stoppers too (I do that pretty frequently). Or I am living in a parallel universe. EDIT: I'll check it when I get home (the part, that is) Edited November 19, 201410 yr by Lipko
November 19, 201410 yr You can insert ball pins from both sides into the part with stoppers too (I do that pretty frequently). Or I am living in a parallel universe. EDIT: I'll check it when I get home (the part, that is) I too do that, in my mind that makes them less likely to pop off.. although I have never experienced them popping off without applying external force in the wrong direction. This part isn't designed to have a force acting on it in that direction anyway, so both parts are probably equally good
November 19, 201410 yr The version with stoppers has other important feature, essential in many of my cars: you can introduce an axle or a pin in the ball hole and it will not move, in link without stoppers it has too much cleareance. This is the fromt axle of my Pordche Edited November 19, 201410 yr by Sheepo
November 19, 201410 yr You can also use the stopper version upside down. It takes a bit more force but the pin does pop in. I do prefer the stopless version though... Its cleaner and more universal.
November 20, 201410 yr With the one with stoppers you can put on upside down with a little force and it will stay put and not fall off, Edited November 20, 201410 yr by SNIPE
November 20, 201410 yr The version with stoppers has other important feature, essential in many of my cars: you can introduce an axle or a pin in the ball hole and it will not move, in link without stoppers it has too much cleareance. This is the fromt axle of my Pordche Nice MOC, Are you aware of a technic disk 2958 that would fit better in a disk brake? Edited November 20, 201410 yr by DrJB
November 20, 201410 yr Nice MOC, Are you aware of a technic disk 2958 that would fit better in a disk brake? Those are functional brakes and those pully wheels are there for a reason.
November 21, 201410 yr Those are functional brakes and those pully wheels are there for a reason. Of course they are functional ... no one ever implied they were there purely for show. My 'concern' is that if you rub the rubber part against a cheese slicer, not much will be left of the rubber after a while .... whereas 2958 provide for a smooth friction surface, exactly how real brakes work. Don't you think? Plus, because of the openings/holes in the current brake disk, the braking force will not be uniform, and the vehicle will 'shake' during braking. Edited November 21, 201410 yr by DrJB
November 22, 201410 yr Of course they are functional ... no one ever implied they were there purely for show. My 'concern' is that if you rub the rubber part against a cheese slicer, not much will be left of the rubber after a while .... whereas 2958 provide for a smooth friction surface, exactly how real brakes work. Don't you think? Well, the brakes are functional in the sense that they really squeeze the rotors and can really provide some resistance, but you wouldn't actually use them to stop the model. Motor braking is plenty for that. So there is no concern about wear. The flat discs you mention do look smoother, but they are also much less than 1x2 stud thick. If you stack two of them together like this there will be a big gap and when you squeeze the rotor you'll just close the gap. You won't get any clamping force. The pulleys work better even with the holes.
November 22, 201410 yr Nice MOC, Are you aware of a technic disk 2958 that would fit better in a disk brake? Good question, actually I bought some of them when I was designing the Porsche, and the answer about why I didn't use them is here: The flat discs you mention do look smoother, but they are also much less than 1x2 stud thick. If you stack two of them together like this there will be a big gap and when you squeeze the rotor you'll just close the gap. You won't get any clamping force. The pulleys work better even with the holes.
November 22, 201410 yr I knew there has to be some 'logical' answer ... beyond 'they are there for a reason' ... Thank you SR71.
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