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I think there is no problem if member only vote for 5 models instead of 6.

I let Jim take care of members that award points to the same model twice. :wink:

(hey man, you vote for model twice whereas I'm sure you wanted to put my number. <= this is not correct)

Edit: Jim faster than me.

Edited by TeClem8
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Jim, do you disqualify all a member's votes if one isn't up to standard? (e.g. a duplicate) If so, we could notify people whose votes currently aren't valid.

While counting the votes after casting my own, I found two people who did not use colons. I did not watch for other mistakes.

Edited by BachAddict
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I don't correct duplicates. Duplicates are disqualified. (if the votes are exactly the same I might correct)

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the votes are so weird. some very ugly (not saying which) that get a lot votes, some very nice that get only a few.

I am proud of mine but I think others don't because i still didn't got any points.

good luck everybody

If you don't get a lot of points, that doesn't mean your model sucks. Honestly, there were so many top-level models in this contest, I'm not sad that mine isn't getting too many votes (and neither should you!). Plus, there's still the chance of winning an SBrick even without getting all the votes:

Bonus Prize

And if that's not good enough....there will be an extra SBrick awarded to somebody.....for something....

So if you don't end up in the Top 3 you will still have a chance to win this great piece of electronics.

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Thanks again to the SBrick team for making this generous prize pool possible :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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the votes are so weird. some very ugly (not saying which) that get a lot votes, some very nice that get only a few.

I am proud of mine but I think others don't because i still didn't got any points.

good luck everybody

My model isn't nearly as well built as, say, VK's. The unique idea is what is getting me votes.

Your model is well built, but not as impressive as others in either looks or functions. Keep building! :)

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He's model is impressive. I was very surprised that it drove on such a rough terrain an in puddles.

But it's not in my favourite 6, that's true..

Edited by Lipko
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Another thing I mentioned in my voting post: An excessively long video. I have 43 videos to watch, I don't want to waste my time.

The first few minutes of TheNextLegoDesigner's video are the camera circling around a big, mean offroader just sitting there! I skipped to where it was crawling, but the camera was shaky if I remember correctly.

My own video isn't as good as it could be. I will work harder next time!

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He's model is impressive. I was very surprised that it drove on such a rough terrain an in puddles.

But it's not in my favourite 6, that's true..

thanks man,

it was made to get over such rough terrain,that's wath i like to do, do some heavy ofroading or some construction

My model isn't nearly as well built as, say, VK's. The unique idea is what is getting me votes.

Your model is well built, but not as impressive as others in either looks or functions. Keep building! :)

his is just great, get a 4 functions inside that small car

If you don't get a lot of points, that doesn't mean your model sucks. Honestly, there were so many top-level models in this contest, I'm not sad that mine isn't getting too many votes (and neither should you!). Plus, there's still the chance of winning an SBrick even without getting all the votes:

i know but your's is lot better

BTW this is only my second moc

my first was a kart

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I'm sure thai I can't win, But I'm thinking about how much sbrick could improve My MOCs, Winners should make a moc with their prizes or show how their entry was improved by sbrick ;)

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Well at least your getting votes. I thought I hade a good looking model, a short video, and had it in the dirt. Oh well, there is the second chance.

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Well at least your getting votes. I thought I hade a good looking model, a short video, and had it in the dirt. Oh well, there is the second chance.

Your loader is good, but there are better loaders in the contest. Modeling it after a specific real one would have worked better.

...I really should have put a photo of the real spider in my entry post.

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But why should a Technic model be made to look like a specific vehicle / item ?

The majority of technic models are generic, so when I voted I didn't take into account whether it was modelled to look like something specific.

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But why should a Technic model be made to look like a specific vehicle / item ?

The majority of technic models are generic, so when I voted I didn't take into account whether it was modelled to look like something specific.

When you build something generic you are not subjected to any restriction so the challenge is non-existent in my opinion, when you choose something specific you have to adapt to its size, but that is something that not everyone appreciates.

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When you build something generic you are not subjected to any restriction so the challenge is non-existent in my opinion, when you choose something specific you have to adapt to its size, but that is something that not everyone appreciates.

Why the challenge would not exist? You still have to come up with something that's similar to real machines. I, for one, do not see any actual difference between most articulated front loaders (but a badly designed custom model still looks bad), so for me looking like a specific model is no plus at all.

I think the challenge has almost the same level, and you don't even have reference blueprints with custom designs.

If you think about cars, replicating and existing model is very hard. With a custom model, you don't have that many restrictions, but you do have to design the looks for yourself. I've done both custom and replica models, maybe they're not awesome but I have some experience with both. Try to make a custom design and you'll see there are as much challenges, and most of them are the same as with specific models (mechanics, transmissions, space, strength, reliability)

Edited by Lipko
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No shape to follow simply gives you more freedom.

If one builds an existing thing then he must keep the shape and make it look good. One must keep all the angles, shapes, curves, scale and many many more aspects of the existing design. Which is a challenging limitation. Looking good is a "must have" for any MOC in my humble opinion .

If one builds his own thing - he only needs to make it look good. Implementing functions could be difficult in both scenarios.

I think that's what jorgeopesi meant.

Edited by Omikron
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As you can read it was my opinion not yours and I was talking about standar proportions not looks. You can build a beauty wheel loader for example :laugh: but if it is not proportionated with a real one it won´t like me, in my opinion again, Of course there are invented vehicles, tumbler for example but even lego copies must have similar proportions.

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Trust me there's enough challenge designing and packaging new cars ... I do work in the car industry afterall!

But one of my main points is that the majority of the technic models aren't real world vehicles. We only have a very limited no of licences items and so I was equally judging all the models in the competition whether they had a real world equivalent or not

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Omikron you are right, Seasider I will give you two examples of "generic" classic sets, tell me what you see or if I am crazy :laugh: , based or copy?.

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Edited by jorgeopesi
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Well at least your getting votes. I thought I hade a good looking model, a short video, and had it in the dirt. Oh well, there is the second chance.

For me the same.

Why the challenge would not exist? You still have to come up with something that's similar to real machines. I, for one, do not see any actual difference between most articulated front loaders (but a badly designed custom model still looks bad), so for me looking like a specific model is no plus at all.

I think the challenge has almost the same level, and you don't even have reference blueprints with custom designs.

If you think about cars, replicating and existing model is very hard. With a custom model, you don't have that many restrictions, but you do have to design the looks for yourself. I've done both custom and replica models, maybe they're not awesome but I have some experience with both. Try to make a custom design and you'll see there are as much challenges, and most of them are the same as with specific models (mechanics, transmissions, space, strength, reliability)

I am more about making custom designs. Making something that should look like the real thing just doesn't let you use your imagination. I think that's what lego is all about, creating things that you think about, not replicate something. My entry, n.4, is totally custom, the steering, the winch, the gearboxsystem the rear axle, the body, the seat. It's totally custom.the idea came from something real but i didn't replicated it no i let my imagination go and it still is a buggy. There are a lot of Buggy's but only a few like this one.

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I am more about making custom designs. Making something that should look like the real thing just doesn't let you use your imagination. I think that's what lego is all about, creating things that you think about, not replicate something. My entry, n.4, is totally custom, the steering, the winch, the gearboxsystem the rear axle, the body, the seat. It's totally custom.the idea came from something real but i didn't replicated it no i let my imagination go and it still is a buggy. There are a lot of Buggy's but only a few like this one.

I prefer realistic models with proper proportions that look like the real machines in general. That said, simply, FOR ME, being modelled after a specific machine doesn't add much value for a model, and I simply fully disagree with the "challenge is non existent" argument.

For the examples Jorge posted: I see some differences, but I don't see significantly more challenge in making them look like the specific real machines.

EDIT: Maybe I still misunderstand Jorge's comment and take things too literally. English is not my native language.

Edited by Lipko
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I'm sure thai I can't win, But I'm thinking about how much sbrick could improve My MOCs, Winners should make a moc with their prizes or show how their entry was improved by sbrick ;)

That is a great idea that the winners should show their entry again with the sbrick fitted.

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I didn't mean to poke a hornets nest. I looked at my entry as "all these loaders have the same basic shape, just different cabs and rear end". Now maybe 10 years or so ago they had a noticeable difference, but what is done is done. Sorry to poke a hornets nest. Good luck to everyone.

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