Bionicle 2015 Discussion

[Aanchir]

odd to see you use the phrase "attach like masks" after your post on the phrase a while back :P

looking at how the masks connect, I'm pretty sure these masks will be backwards compatible with heads from the Metru on at least, unless they're smaller than I'm giving them credit for. I hope so, in case the new head doesn't suit my preferences.

I mean attach like masks as in attach to heads in general. We can see the backs of them clearly in these photos, so there's no way that they attach to the top of the head, therefore the only way for them to function as masks is to attach to the front. Sorry if that was confusing.

[Kamen Rider Kiva]

Anyone else notice that Lewa's title kinda looks like it says Lewa Taster of Jungle? Not gonna lie, I laughed at that harder than I should've. XD Also, Pohatu seems to have some exposed ball-joints on his torso, I wonder if that's in relation to a possible boomerang throwing function. O.o

Edited September 15, 2014 by Kamen Rider Kiva

[Grima]

Anyone else notice that Lewa's title kinda looks like it says Lewa Taster of Jungle? I laughed at that harder than I should've. XD Also, Pohatu seems to have some exposes ball-joints on his torso, I wonder if that's in relation to a possible boomerang throwing function. O.o

His arm probably swings like the usual Toa Mata back in the day, but throwing the boomerang is out of the question; that would involve giving them a connection point so weak they could slip out of his hands. More likely, he whacks his opponents with the edge of his boomerang instead.

[Lind Whisperer]

I'm not exactly a Genwunner, but if Bionicle proves to be a reboot I probably will be...

We also need to quit comparing Transformers to Bionicle. All Transformers media is canon. All. Now, if LEGO considered Bionicle part of the main LEGO canon, '01 to '09 Universe could be in another universe, as proved by the U.F.O. commercial. They don't, so it won't be. Unless it's also canon in its own stream...yeah, multiverses are complicated...

[TheGreatSpirit]

I find it a tad bit sad that the Stone Defender has more pieces than Pohatu. I certainly hope all these figures go through extensive amounts of change before they are released.

[Mesonak]

These piece counts just seem fishy all around; the aforementioned Pohatu/Protector discrepancy of course (although I do acknowledge that the Protectors' piece counts are inflated as a result of the stud shooters), but also LoSS compared to the Titan Toa. It doesn't add up in my mind, although I suppose anything's possible.

Also, of note; based on my calculations, I was able to pinpoint 45 pieces used in Lewa out of a piece count of 85. That means that his torso uses 40 OTHER PIECES to compose itself.

I find that more than a little unlikely, but I suppose, once again, anything's possible. :P

Edited September 15, 2014 by Mesonak

[Vahkiti]

Easy explanation. The sets were renamed for other countries. It happens all of the time with movies(seriously, Google it. You'd be surprised the names they come up with.) Someone thought "Krata" was a real word, and it wasn't translated, and the name was switched to one that could be translated.

I imagine the more likely explanation is that hard as it may be to believe, these images are older than the previous leak. See, a lesser known image was released along side the first one which consisted of a chart showing all the boxes, (albeit very blurry) and their respective sizes. The boxes without backgrounds in this batch of images exactly matches those on that chart, which tells me that these are actually the oldest images yet produced, rendered even before the first leak. This of course means that "Skull Krata" is an outdated title, and that the more recently known Lord of Skull Spiders is the finalized set name.

[The Squeakuel]

You do realize that the entire story was essentially based on the giant robot concept from the beginning? Brick by Brick, pages 153–154 have the details, and Christian Faber's blog FaberFiles also has lots of related concept art dating back as far as 1999. If they had, in fact, had a meeting and decided not to pursue such a ridiculous idea, the BIONICLE theme as we know it would not have existed in the first place and we might have gotten some pitiful excuse for a story like Slizer/Throwbots and Roboriders had.

Now, if you found other aspects of the finale, like the shattering and the subsequent reformation of Spherus Magna, unbelievable, well, that's more understandable. That stuff hadn't been as thoroughly explored back when the theme was first beginning. But Mata Nui's role as a giant robot that contained the entirety of the Matoran Universe was what the entire theme was built around.

Well that might be so, but I still thought it was absurd.

[dviddy]

I mean attach like masks as in attach to heads in general. We can see the backs of them clearly in these photos, so there's no way that they attach to the top of the head, therefore the only way for them to function as masks is to attach to the front. Sorry if that was confusing.

Or maybe they attach in a completely different manner... The lack of injection points on the fronts of the mask coupled with Antrozek's comment about the earmuff looking parts has me suspicious.

[Clone 01354 Productions]

^^I quite liked it. It made the story have a sort of eerie quality, especially when you look back on it.

Edited September 15, 2014 by LN-01354

[Aethersprite]

Or maybe they attach in a completely different manner... The lack of injection points on the fronts of the mask coupled with Antrozek's comment about the earmuff looking parts has me suspicious.

Perhaps they utilise the two-pin system the current HF add-ons use? It doesn't stick out as far as the normal pins do in the masks/helmets we currently have.

Edited September 15, 2014 by Lockon Stratos

[The Squeakuel]

Perhaps they utilise the two-pin system the current HF add-ons use? It doesn't stick out as far as the normal pins do in the masks/helmets we currently have.

I sure hope not. I hope they just stick with the axles and use the Brain Attack head. That's fairly non-descript and has a bunch of connection points. I'd like to see it in other colors, including some opaque ones.

[XONAR]

Or maybe they attach in a completely different manner... The lack of injection points on the fronts of the mask coupled with Antrozek's comment about the earmuff looking parts has me suspicious.

That's possible, but keep in mind that these are true 3D renders, and not just touched up set photographs, so they may have left the injection points and other similar details out of these (early) renders. Personally, I hope they do attach at the front.

[TheGreatSpirit]

That's possible, but keep in mind that these are true 3D renders, and not just touched up set photographs, so they may have left the injection points and other similar details out of these (early) renders. Personally, I hope they do attach at the front.

​It wouldn't be much of a mask if it didn't attach from the front, would it?

[Quisoves Pugnat]

Whatever form the heads take, it seems, on the basis of the Jungle Protector, that they will be monochrome. Look at the bit just under the E in "Confidential."

[Clone 01354 Productions]

^Nice notice! Also, look at the little bit of the mask on top of Earth Defender's head, where it concaves: you can faintly see a maroon-ish color , surrounded by grey. This looks increasingly similar to Mata heads.....

​It wouldn't be much of a mask if it didn't attach from the front, would it?

And, here we go again. Very early on in this thread, someone said something that I agree with 100%: To wear a mask, you don't suck on a peg in your mouth to keep it attached to your head. You slip it over. Therefore, the best mask setup in Bionicle was actually Inika (even though they were comically large and made of rubber).

[DuckBricks]

I imagine the more likely explanation is that hard as it may be to believe, these images are older than the previous leak. See, a lesser known image was released along side the first one which consisted of a chart showing all the boxes, (albeit very blurry) and their respective sizes. The boxes without backgrounds in this batch of images exactly matches those on that chart, which tells me that these are actually the oldest images yet produced, rendered even before the first leak. This of course means that "Skull Krata" is an outdated title, and that the more recently known Lord of Skull Spiders is the finalized set name.

I agree. Granting that they still have the prelims of recent and modern sets, I won't be surprised that these pics are older than the previous leak. Even the black backgrounds who that LEGO was probably experimenting with backgrounds still and only attempted the backgrounds for the "main" fire element figures...

[Takanuinuva]

Do you think its possible Lego will ask Cryoshell to do music for the new Bionicle. Or would perhaps The Fold would do it instead seeing how they've done plenty of songs for Ninjago.

On another note. In a 2015 Chima set http://i.imgur.com/vLTQECQ.jpg there is a new fire piece that attaches via a Technic axle. Does anyone think Tahu might use those for swords instead of the Brain Attack blades?

Edited September 15, 2014 by Takanuinuva

[Aethersprite]

On another note. In a 2015 Chima set http://i.imgur.com/vLTQECQ.jpg there is a new fire piece that attaches via a Technic axle. Does anyone think Tahu might use those for swords instead of the Brain Attack blades?

That's what I was thinking! It would certainly be a waste if it wasn't the case, those blades look very ornate and would fit very nicely with Tahu. The BA blades are cool (and I don't own them in gold yet) but I'm quite tired of seeing them.

Edited September 15, 2014 by Lockon Stratos

[Mesonak]

I would love it so much if Tahu used those pieces.

Edited September 15, 2014 by Mesonak

[Dorek]

Do those pieces actually attach with an axle? Looks kinda like it uses a bar.

Would be nice to see them, though I'm actually pretty satisfied with the amount of new molds we have. Them giant swords...

[Mesonak]

Do those pieces actually attach with an axle? Looks kinda like it uses a bar.

Yeah, I guess it could go either way considering the nature of the piece it attaches to.

OH YEAH, and speaking of that set... red Protector feet and size 4 shells? All of my YES.

[Vahkiti]

Slightly off topic a second. I'm not at all familiar with CCBS or how Hero Factory sets are usually built since I admittedly stopped paying it any attention after the first wave. So I'm coming from the standpoint of a complete noob when I ask; is it not weird/excessive that Kopaka has armour/shells on top of other shells? And at that, white on top of gold. It's not just excessive, but it's apparently also backwards. O_o

What I DO like however is that some of these sets have translucent neon bone and hand pieces. I'm not certain why I like that so much, but I do. :P

Edited September 15, 2014 by Vahkiti

[Timeline15]

And, here we go again. Very early on in this thread, someone said something that I agree with 100%: To wear a mask, you don't suck on a peg in your mouth to keep it attached to your head. You slip it over. Therefore, the best mask setup in Bionicle was actually Inika (even though they were comically large and made of rubber).

Actually, most masks just sit on the front of the face, held on by a strap don't they? I know that's how a lot of old tribal masks worked. Obviously, a strap isn't a lego connection, so the closest analogue is having them attach at the front.

[Logan McOwen]

Ok, so this thread has exploded... So I don't quite know how or where to interject here :P However, I'm looking at the Protectors... And there's a ballcup at the neck, looking a lot like the single socket piece the CCBS has. Could this mean a new torso bone, to accommodate a Metru-style head? I mean, looking at the protectors, there is also some funky stuff going on behind their masks - funky stuff I for one do not recognise.

And, looking at Pohatu, Lewa and Onua, I spy mechanism-type-stuff. There's a black gear in Lewa's armpit, and I can see a grey bushel in Pohatu's - and I'm sure we've discussed Onua's gearedness by now. Is it safe to assume that we're seeing mechanisms, or some other feature? And if so, how are such things being accommodated? I don't see much hint of the shoulder balls of the current torso bones being used.

Or maybe they attach in a completely different manner... The lack of injection points on the fronts of the mask coupled with Antrozek's comment about the earmuff looking parts has me suspicious.

A fair point, but that being said, the injection points on things like armour shells, weapons and armour addons are very obscured - sometimes not even visible.

Edited September 15, 2014 by LewiMOC