Bionicle 2015 Discussion

[Vinyl Scratch]

which still notably relied on the humanoid builds save for Scorpio,

And Fangz.

Fangz was a good set.

[TwistLaw]

Anyway here's a link where Greg confirms they decided to end BIONICLE in 2008.

https://community.lego.com/t5/LEGO-General/Chat-with-Greg-Farshtey/td-p/6605180/page/289

Screen bonus:

[Cheatster9000x]

In the time before time, on the mysterious island of Okoto, six elemental tribes of fire, water, ice, jungle, stone and earth lived in peace, each tribe watched over by their own elemental Master. Using the mystic power of their masks, nothing could defeat them. But that all changed, when a legion of spider-like creatures rose from beneath the ground and caused chaos throughout the land. The Masters fought bravely, but the swarm was too powerful. The only being that can save the island is the Great Spirit Robot, which was destroyed long ago in a battle with its twin, the Makuta. To resurrect the Great Spirit, the Masters must find the legendary Mask of Creation, but first, they must claim their own golden masks to unlock their full elemental powers.

Fixed that for ya.

I could see this happening if they went with continuation.

[Kahi]

On the mysterious island of Okoto, six elemental tribes of fire, water, ice, jungle, stone and earth lived in peace, each tribe watched over by their own elemental Master. Using the mystic power of their masks, nothing could defeat them. But that all changed, when a legion of spider-like creatures rose from beneath the ground and caused chaos throughout the land. The Masters fought bravely, but the swarm was too powerful. The only being that can save the island is the Great Spirit Robot, which was destroyed long ago in a battle with its twin, the Makuta. To resurrect the Great Spirit, the Masters must find the legendary Mask of Creation, but first, they must claim their own golden masks to unlock their full elemental powers.

Fire. Water. Ice. Jungle. Stone. Earth. Long ago, the island of Okoto lived in harmony...but all that changed when the Skull Spiders attacked.

That's all I could think of while reading that.

[Agent Fusion]

How could I forget "In the time before time"? It's even in my signature!

[Kalhiki]

Something occurred to me a bit ago:

I think Kopaka was designed with a sort of "fur coat" look to him. The huge lower legs look like big fur boots to me, and the big shoulder pads resemble the big, fluffy look of a fur coat's collar/shoulders.

Which I think is pretty cool. Gives him a sort of ice age look to him.

[arc]

I never thought about that way, I guess it makes sense. ( those lower legs are still hideous though) and it doesn't explain the bionipples. I'm sorry, They're definitely there.

[Lord-Vorahk]

Something occurred to me a bit ago:

I think Kopaka was designed with a sort of "fur coat" look to him. The huge lower legs look like big fur boots to me, and the big shoulder pads resemble the big, fluffy look of a fur coat's collar/shoulders.

Which I think is pretty cool. Gives him a sort of ice age look to him.

ANd now I can't unsee Kopaka as an ice-age paladin. He's the sort of guy where you can tell that, if Toa had hair, he'd have a huge badass beard.

[SoupOrFishOil]

Something occurred to me a bit ago:

I think Kopaka was designed with a sort of "fur coat" look to him. The huge lower legs look like big fur boots to me, and the big shoulder pads resemble the big, fluffy look of a fur coat's collar/shoulders.

Which I think is pretty cool. Gives him a sort of ice age look to him.

I was thinking hockey player, but I like that interpretation too.

[InfurnallDragon]

... and Queen Beast, who, prior to her murder at the hands of Preston Stormer, was basically a really long torso plugged onto four legs and a cocoon abdomen.

That horrible Stormer. Queen beast just wanted to raise her babies into big, city-smashing abominations. Stormer has orphaned all those poor invaders from below.

OT: I definitely want more creature sets to come from the Character and Creature Building System. I am not really disappointed by LOSS' design based what we can see right now. I think the use of a printed chest piece to make a spider face was very different and is a cool concept. It may still having MoC'ing potential for some eldritch horror type characters or something as well as more arachnids or other bugs. Maybe someone can MoC orange Nui-Rama now in full ccbs! Especial with all them Technic beams in the LOSS box! That on top of him having a function makes him a target for me definitely.

Something occurred to me a bit ago:

I think Kopaka was designed with a sort of "fur coat" look to him. The huge lower legs look like big fur boots to me, and the big shoulder pads resemble the big, fluffy look of a fur coat's collar/shoulders.

Which I think is pretty cool. Gives him a sort of ice age look to him.

That is actually pretty awesome in concept. He is now Toakhiin- Heroborn! (Hey this could totally be your next drawing! :D)

I never thought about that way, I guess it makes sense. ( those lower legs are still hideous though) and it doesn't explain the bionipples. I'm sorry, They're definitely there.

Fur/leather armor can have metal studs. In D&D thats a whole +1 on top of the usual armor class of the item right there.

Edited October 2, 2014 by InfurnallDragon

[Chimaninja454]

Fire. Water. Ice. Jungle. Stone. Earth. Long ago, the island of Okoto lived in harmony...but all that changed when the Skull Spiders attacked.

That's all I could think of while reading that.

Sounds reboot-ish to me...

[Aanchir]

Something occurred to me a bit ago:

I think Kopaka was designed with a sort of "fur coat" look to him. The huge lower legs look like big fur boots to me, and the big shoulder pads resemble the big, fluffy look of a fur coat's collar/shoulders.

That's sort of the feel I got from him as well, though the lower legs still look to me like they'd look really strange.

[Toa of Gallifrey]

I must say, as an avid Bionicle fan, that these are simply the most disappointing thing Lego has ever put out. After about three waves of Hero Factory with spider themed bad guys we immediately receive a poorly-designed, boring spider. The Toa are Hero factory figs with bad recreations of old masks and weapons. Lastly, the print on their chests is nonsensical. This is extremely disheartening.

How are they Hero Factory figures? They use CCBS but use a different build (it integrates gear functions like 2001-2005). The skull spiders are also much better designed than the BA and IfB monsters, they seem to work like Krana also. The mask and weapon opinions are subjective, I think they're great but I understand they can be disliked. I don't care for the printing on the chests either. Personally, I haven't been more excited for a set since the Thornatus back in 09.

[Timeline15]

Honestly I'm at the point of slamming my face into the desk from the amount of people who call them "HF with Bionicle masks slapped on" just because they use the ccbs build. -_- Then I guess the chima figure were just HF with animal heads slapped on? No. That was savage planet :P I personally find these spiders mpre interesting that, say, the Invasion from below jumpers. These spiders are skull, and potentially even masks, too.

On another note, I noticed from the recent scan that the combiners seem to wear the gold versions of the masks. Could these fusions with the protectors actually be in the story, achieved once the toa get the masks?

[Gatanui]

Not sure how they can be all that disappointing if you knew you had to expect CCBS figures. I think they have done a great job (though not saying it couldn't be better, though) of using CCBS while making it feel "BIONICL-y" while paying homage to the old characters. I admit I'm a bit baffled we're getting spider-like creatures AGAIN, though, but it's okay, the intent is another. Not sure I get your point about the "nonsensical printing". What would be "sensical printing" to you?

-Gata

Edited October 2, 2014 by Gatanui

[InfurnallDragon]

This is pretty farfetched but hear it out: When I first saw the Skull Spiders I thought they would have a jumping function like the plastic frogs or playset Visorak because they have 4 legs. You see air lines edited into the box arts with the spiders moving towards each toa. The legs have been redesigned at least once. Is it possible they could have made heavy friction, positionable legs that still incorporate a leaping function?

This might further look uncreative in retrospect though since HF apparently just did that.

Edited October 2, 2014 by InfurnallDragon

[Aanchir]

This is pretty farfetched but hear it out: When I first saw the Skull Spiders I thought they would have a jumping function like the plastic frogs or playset Visorak because they have 4 legs. You see air lines edited into the box arts with the spiders moving towards each toa. The legs have been redesigned at least once. Is it possible they could have made heavy friction, positionable legs that still incorporate a leaping function?

This might further look uncreative in retrospect though since HF apparently just did that.

I think that'd be doubtful. I can't think of any way you could make a regular hinge like that be "springy". There's a reason the jumpers this year used a single-piece base.

[Timeline15]

I don't know how you could give a lightsaber pin-sized joint enough friction to allow for that.

[InfurnallDragon]

well something I neglected to mention (and still farfetched), looking at the skullspiders in Lewa and Tahu's box arts their legs seem to have stoppers on the backs and above the joints themselves. They could probably brace the legs onto the skulls, letting them push on the mask while giving the legs a more bionicle-esque appearance. Still reason to be skeptical, because if the perspectives arent off the legs dont look long enough even with the hooks to fold up for this.

We just need more to talk about and speculate on. Full-length BIONICLE film in theaters? The documents suggested this as a possibility if I recall.

Edited October 2, 2014 by InfurnallDragon

[Dorek]

(still not sure what to think about the documents, but regardless)

I'm sure they're hoping for it to lead there, but it would likely depend on first year sales. We'll see if a TV series realizes itself.

[InfurnallDragon]

Im not sure about a TV show still. I really hope if they make a show they will at least make it a little more mature than the shows they currently have, like maybe if it was like The Last Airbender/Korra(havent seen Korra but ive heard good things). Fire nation puns aside, it can have charming humor and more intense, serious conflicts in a more fleshed out world than Chima or Ninjago.

[slugdude]

How are they Hero Factory figures? They use CCBS but use a different build (it integrates gear functions like 2001-2005). The skull spiders are also much better designed than the BA and IfB monsters, they seem to work like Krana also. The mask and weapon opinions are subjective, I think they're great but I understand they can be disliked. I don't care for the printing on the chests either. Personally, I haven't been more excited for a set since the Thornatus back in 09.

I call them hero factory figs because they have the same hand, foot, chest, and limb armor molds. Also, they have a basic skeletal structure with armor attached rather than molded torsos or skeletonish bodies with armor that clips with technic pins. And, personally, I think the redesigned masks look a lot like the recent hero factory masks rather than any the Bionicles would have worn.

[Dorek]

The building system, known as CCBS, is going to be here for a while. It was designed to replace the old system because it provides more versatility and is much cheaper to produce because there are less specialized pieces, while at the same time being able to provide varied looks. If the system is not for you, that's cool - doesn't have to be. But it certainly isn't going anywhere.

The masks look fine to me, too (they look way more like late-era BIONICLE than anything Hero Factory ever did) but that's also subjective.

If it truly isn't for you, there's no hard feelings. But I'd still recommend giving it a try; especially with gear functions apparently back, you might be surprised at how BIONICLE-esque they actually are.

[Grima]

That horrible Stormer. Queen beast just wanted to raise her babies into big, city-smashing abominations. Stormer has orphaned all those poor invaders from below.

...you definitely didn't see the episode :P

[TwistLaw]

The only and clear problem here is that visually speaking CCBS offers a much narrower spectrum of sights. Heroes didn't change much in the 2011-3 era, and this year the only relevant difference was the cockpit.

We had a similar problem with BIONICLE in the 2006-09 days with the infamous Inika build, but at least there were many, MANY more pieces to choose from when desining the Inika clones they sold us.

I really hope CCBS evolves into a much wider system, aesthetically speaking, and BIONICLE 2015 seems really promising.

But honestly I really hope for a new building system, similar to the one BIONICLE had until the end.