Bionicle 2015 Discussion

[Nekchir]

If 6 new sets are Titans, I can't wait for the leaks to start showing up.

[Clone 01354 Productions]

Please don't give us Makuta and Ekimu. They need to build up mystique before they just appear as sets and as recurring characters.

Think, we didn't get Makuta until '03, and we didn't get Mata Nui until '09!! If they appear in year one.......

That being said, we need better villains than what HF gave us. Fire Lord is one of the worst purchases that I ever made.

[DuckBricks]

Golden elemental items used to unlock someone's potential? Boy, can't wait for Kopaka's revelation that he's really a robot and Tahu's that he not going to be Lewa

... Aaargh! Hahaha

[PenPlays]

Just caught up with this thread.

NYCC reveal. Hype jet. Blah, blah, blah...

I'm loving the look of these sets. I'm loving all the little nostalgic features riddled throughout them.

Please don't give us Makuta and Ekimu. They need to build up mystique before they just appear as sets and as recurring characters.

Think, we didn't get Makuta until '03, and we didn't get Mata Nui until '09!! If they appear in year one.......

That being said, we need better villains than what HF gave us. Fire Lord is one of the worst purchases that I ever made.

Agreed on Fire Lord.

Regarding Ekimu and Makuta.

I have a feeling that we'll at least get Ekimu this Summer.

I'm thinking it would go like this:

Summer 2015: Ekimu with MoCr

2016: Makuta with MoCo

2017: Makuta (or, plot twist, Ekimu) with MoUP

Just speculation on my part. However, I would love to have the MoCo early on, so I wouldn't mind getting as Makuta early as Summer 2015.

[Stormbringer Empire791]

And, what is the general consensus about the Beast claws on Lewa's shoulders? I get that they're supposed to be pieces of armour (since they're silver like the other add-ons he's wearing), but they look weird to me. I mean, it's a unique look but I don't get what the designers were going for, and that's probably the reason I'm still not sure if I like them or not.

I think they look like the collar of a fur coat or something. Reminds me of Kraven from Spider-Man

[Agent Fusion]

Seeing as they already have a mould for the MoCr, I would expect Ahkimou (do we have a confirmed spelling?), or at least his mask, to be released very soon.

[Toa of Gallifrey]

Seeing as they already have a mould for the MoCr, I would expect Ahkimou (do we have a confirmed spelling?), or at least his mask, to be released very soon.

I believe Ekimu is the confirmed spelling.

I think maybe the masks will be featured in another set and eventually Ekimu and Makuta will be released.

[AdaptingChaos]

Just caught up with this thread.

NYCC reveal. Hype jet. Blah, blah, blah...

I'm loving the look of these sets. I'm loving all the little nostalgic features riddled throughout them.

Agreed on Fire Lord.

Regarding Ekimu and Makuta.

I have a feeling that we'll at least get Ekimu this Summer.

I'm thinking it would go like this:

Summer 2015: Ekimu with MoCr

2016: Makuta with MoCo

2017: Makuta (or, plot twist, Ekimu) with MoUP

Just speculation on my part. However, I would love to have the MoCo early on, so I wouldn't mind getting as Makuta early as Summer 2015.

The plot twist thing would be really awesome! Just imagine the Toa searching for the masks, trying to help out Ekimu and battling Makuta for 2015 and 2016. Only to have Ekimu become corrupt with the MoUP and the Toa have to stop him in 2017?

[Mr. Gundam]

I like that idea too. It's just that ekimu and Makuta both have protector type bodies in animation. Making them toa size with all them gold pieces would be great.

Edited October 12, 2014 by Mr. Gundam

[Timeline15]

Ahkimou

AHHH! akhmou has infiltrated the bio2015 world! #akhmou2015confirmed.

On a more serious note, lego has seemingly made it quite clear that this year features around the mask of creation, and the next 2 probably about control and ultimate power respectively.

[Agent Fusion]

Evil Ekimu would be a great twist. As for the sets, I would imagine Ekimu and Makuta in their original forms being sold together, like Toa Norik and Toa Iruni.

[I AM THE DUCK MAN]

Guys, I have a shocking revelation that nobody will be able to unsee,

The concept art for Tahu's mask in the bottom right corner of the slide...

IS A NEO SHIFTER

[Shakar]

I assume they were going for a kind of "shirt cuff" look. Sort of like this:

https://wiki.teamfor...=20111123012618

(yes, the Demopan was necessary)

However, it could just be shoulder plating.

Anyway, I'm actually planning on getting most if not all of these now. Seeing the animation style they're using really helped me understand the artstyle they were going for, and that improves the entire range a lot for me. Also the plot gimmicks are cool

Unless retail situations improve regarding Constraction around here (at my local Target all we have is Crystal Beast, the weird red beast and a few shelfwarming Ogrums. Although other stores usually have most sets, they're not in the most convenient locations so I rarely go to them), I'll be buying most of these through LEGO's shop.

I think they look like the collar of a fur coat or something. Reminds me of Kraven from Spider-Man

http://img2.wikia.no...noff_(Earth-616)_from_Marvel_War_of_Heroes_001.jpg

Hmmm, thanks for the replies. I think I like both interpretations. It certainly gives him that wild, jungley look. Also, I got the idea those big spikes kinda look like wings or feathers, which fits with his Adrenaline Mode look (which I like a lot, I always likened Lewa to a bird).

AHHH! akhmou has infiltrated the bio2015 world! #akhmou2015confirmed.

On a more serious note, lego has seemingly made it quite clear that this year features around the mask of creation, and the next 2 probably about control and ultimate power respectively.

I'm still angry we never got Toa Ahkmou. He would've probably been orange (because of the "we must replace brown with something else" policy), but it was such a cool idea that made so much sense.

I agree: the plan is for 3 years, and the legendary masks (MoCr, MoCo and MoUP) are 3. If the new sets sell well enough, though, the MoCo and MoUP arcs might be extended. The MoUP, however, sounds very much like endgame stuff (like Mata Nui's awakening was for G1), so, depending on how much they want to extend the story, I think we're going to get some filler between the MoCo and the MoUP.

And speaking of the MoUP, I know some think "Ultimate Power" sounds kind of cheesy, and I kind of agree, but my theory is that it's supposed to be a politically correct substitute for "Godhood" or something similar.

[Agent Fusion]

Toa Ahkmou? Wasn't it Turaga Ahkmou?

[Kalhiki]

Toa Ahkmou? Wasn't it Turaga Ahkmou?

If I recall correctly, Toa Ahkmou would've replace Takanuva in '08. He would've been hit by a Shadow Leech and turned into a Toa of Shadow.

[Chro]

Evil Ekimu would be a great twist. As for the sets, I would imagine Ekimu and Makuta in their original forms being sold together, like Toa Norik and Toa Iruni.

They weren't sold in one set, they were just advertised together (if that's what you meant).

[Aanchir]

Kinda disappointed that the only bad guy is a big spider,I mean it would be a lot cooler if we got 6 of those guys each with different color.

Ehhhh... I'm not keen on the idea of six identical sets with identical functions priced at $15 each. Besides that, clone sets are pretty much a thing of the past nowadays and in my opinion they should stay that way.

Besides that, I kind of like the idea of including a skull spider in each set, so that ANY set can become an enemy for the heroes. It's an efficient way of creating believable combat role-play scenarios without cutting down the number of heroes or making people "imagine" the villains.

Really, the situation this year is a LOT better than it was in 2004 with the Toa Metru and Matoran sets being released half a year before the Vahki or Dark Hunters. Or for that matter, how it was in the United States in 2005, with the Toa Hordika and Rahaga being released half a year before the Visorak, Roodaka, or Sidorak. Even 2001 BIONICLE had the Toa and Turaga released months before the Rahi! I greatly prefer having real enemies for the heroes to fight. Making the heroes fight their own allies without any story-driven reason why they'd do so, or making them fight imaginary foes, is a lot less fun.

Please don't give us Makuta and Ekimu. They need to build up mystique before they just appear as sets and as recurring characters.

Think, we didn't get Makuta until '03, and we didn't get Mata Nui until '09!! If they appear in year one.......

I do not think "not getting Makuta until '03" was a good thing, personally. A lot of the fun of sets is role-play, and as I mentioned above, having to "imagine" an enemy like Makuta in 2001 or the Morbuzakh in 2004 makes that role-play a lot less fun. "Oh no, the Morbuzakh knocked off my character's mask!" *knocks off mask with hand* "Now the villager fires his blaster at it!" *shoots blaster at empty spot on the floor*.

Granted, if Makuta only appears in the backstory and doesn't actually make an appearance for the rest of the story, we can probably do without him this year. Still, it'd be disappointing not to be able to act out that "legend"... especially since the longer we wait, the further the eventual Makuta and Ekimu sets are likely to be from the forms they appeared in in that video. As for Ekimu, he's not quite as essential, since we've got no shortage of heroes— but he would be the obvious set to wear the Mask of Creation, which is almost certainly getting released in SOME set this year.

In both cases, the fact that we've already seen both characters means "building up mystique" is already more or less out of the question as far as the storyline itself is concerned, so comparing it to Mata Nui and Makuta in 2001 is not realistic. Back then, we hadn't seen EITHER character in ANY physical form... at least, not until Makuta showed up in the final cutscenes of the Mata Nui Online Game. But now, before the 2015 sets are even out and before the storyline has even formally started, we've already seen what both characters look like, and have an idea what to expect.

I think a set containing both Makuta and Ekimu in their original forms would make a great retailer exclusive set. Like the Karzahni or Bulk & Vapour sets, it creates a complete play scenario, and like Toa Norik and Toa Iruini, the set would be somewhat detached from the current ongoing conflict. But unlike those sets, it would still depict a major part of the storyline. With that said, I think getting two or three exclusive masks in a single store exclusive set would be unlikely. It's rare for store exclusive sets to include even ONE mold that doesn't appear in any other sets.

Makuta in his "transformed" state seen after he donned the Mask of Ultimate Power is definitely a very plausible candidate for a set. It's an incredibly significant villain in an unmistakeably villainous color scheme.

One last note... even though it's clear from the press release that Makuta is going to be the antagonist whose influence drives the current storyline, we don't know for certain that he's the theme's ultimate villain. Makuta in the new storyline is jealous, ambitious, and bitter, to be sure... but jealous, ambitious, and bitter people can be easily manipulated. What if the Mask of Ultimate Power was itself the ultimate villain, or a manifestation of such a character? Not saying it's going to happen, but it'd be an interesting way to defy expectations.

Edited October 12, 2014 by Aanchir

[Frozen Assasin]

BTW, just realized that if it's the same history all over again, there will be the same characters.

[Toa of Gallifrey]

Toa Ahkmou? Wasn't it Turaga Ahkmou?

The 2008 set of Takanuva was originally gonna be Toa Ahkmou. (@ an above post saying he was probably gonna be orange, I believe he was always supposed to be grey like 2008 Takanuva). It's just in Reign of Shadows that Teridax appointed him as Turaga. I wonder where the story would've gone if they made Ahkmou a Shadow Toa, rather than corrupt Takanuva.

[Dorek]

I keep saying I want a both Makutas (even if they're just palette swaps), perhaps with one as a store exclusive. Since I'm fairly convinced that the evil eyes lurking aren't the MOUP but an evil Makuta mask, it would be nice to see that. That said, I'm also kind of expecting a physical manifestation of the MOUP.

Summer wishlist:

Ekimu

Makuta

Evil Makuta

MOUP

Takanuva :U

[I AM THE DUCK MAN]

Also, to suppliment my post about Tahu concept art being a neo shifter:

bottom right corner is the tahu concept I am talking about

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4279764671_19061029c8_m.jpg is an example neo shifter, I have it beside me and the mask looks like the concept of tahu

[Lyichir]

Almost forgot to post this here. I have a Flickr gallery of pics of the new gearbox, including a fairly generic configuration for it to demonstrate how it works.

Front

Back

Step 1

Step 2

Step 3

Step 4

Full Gallery

[Mandate]

I am also seeing the spiders a lot as headcrabs now that its been mentioned a few times (I tried to describe the Skull Spiders to my little brother and he immeditaely said "Like half-life headcrabs?" I could not contest this). This is especially since they dont fit over Tahu's head without the legs still extended (in TTVs video), just like headcrab zombies in Half Life

Actually, the legs are supposed to fold up underneath Tahu's head, rather than stick out. I know TTV wasn't able to do this, but the back of Tahu's box indicates that they fold the full way behind the head piece. You're probably better off taking the chest piece and head, then fit the Skull Spider on the head piece and put it back on before putting the chest piece on too.

[Nekchir]

Do clone/transformation sets even sell well? (Like the Bohrok-kal and 'Toa' Mata Nui.)

[Mandate]

Well, technically speaking, all Bohrok were clones of each other. The difference is that Bohrok-Kal were a clone WAVE of sets that offered no variation other than being silver. Personally, I don't mind clones as long as they're done with taste. Toa Mata Nui looked great as a set, the additions to the Inika legs helped the style and the general style looked pretty good. But that's just my opinion, I don't own any of the '09 sets.