Bionicle 2015 Discussion

[Aethersprite]

I just built Onua, and he is one of the best sets I've seen. Great parts, great build, great functions and, best of all, stickers that are easy to apply. I think he's almost on par with Queen Beast, my favorite constraction set of all time. Also, I can see why people have compared him to a dwarf. He's only slightly taller than my modded PoS, but he's almost four times as wide. And the hammer is a great weapon too. You can imagine him taking up a career as a smith after the series is over, replacing Ekimu. Plus, besides the advertised claw mode, which I think may look better than the hammer, you can also use the pieces as brass knuckles, which is a look that really suits him.

Agreed on all points. My only gripe about Onua is that his mask is extremely loose - or is it just me? Anyways, he's hands down my favourite set this wave, and probably my favorite construction set ever.

I built the last of all my Toa last week, and if I had to rank them, it'd be Onua > Kopaka > Gali > Tahu > Lewa > Pohatu. Gali is the real show stealer, I opened her last and didn't expect to like her so much. She's one of those sets you can just hold in your hand and marvel at all day. It could be that lovely new blue, or that gorgeous Kaukau, or the fact that I'm a huge fan of large pole weapons... Either way, everything comes together very nicely on her.

[DraikNova]

Mine has a loose mask, but it's not anywhere as loose as I expected and it just moves around slightly. So yeah, your Onua probably had a molding error.

[Ikaatril]

Never really understood the mask issue... never had it. What are you people doing; bashing them into the walls?

If I had to rank the Toa, it'd be Tahu > Kopaka > Pohatu > Onua > Gali/Lewai. I find the trident vastly oversized, especially with the axe pieces, and IMO her colours are the most all over the place - gunmetal ,silver, blue, transparent blue, yellow. The big stand out is yellow and the transblue. The transblue is by far the most irritating IMO, since it's inaccurate - it's not the dark trans-blue that the PoW uses, which is fairly irritating since the light transblue is very weak and by far the worst of the transcolours - under some lights, it just looks completely clear except around the edges. Lewa's juist as bad with silver: he's got on his legs and chest and nowhere else, and his axes change colour from silver to gunmetal somehow, which is made worse by the fact that silver axe pieces are already available with Gali. Not to mention the mask's total lack of resemblance to the old Miru, and let's not forget about the extremely limited neck articulation, as well as the slightly limited arm articulation thanks to the beast claws on his shoulders. Really, 'Lewa' is a total disappointment. This is not Lewa. This is some green impostor with a completely different mask. I was also disappointed to find that he was not the old shade of green - it was instead the overly bright and vibrant green from the ultrabuilds. I like Onua a lot more than both of them, but let's not kid ourselves: his torso is far too wide and his arms end up looking more ridiculous than anything else. And while I'm at it, Tahu could do with some trans-orange in places other than his arms. Making the upper leg shells be trans-orange wouldn't hurt. Pohatu could also do with smaller and more stable boomerangs, since his are way too large to be practical, or a different weapon entirely. Kopaka needs less silver and a less gappy shield.

[mysteriouspi]

Never really understood the mask issue... never had it. What are you people doing; bashing them into the walls?

If I had to rank the Toa, it'd be Tahu > Kopaka > Pohatu > Onua > Gali/Lewai. I find the trident vastly oversized, especially with the axe pieces, and IMO her colours are the most all over the place - gunmetal ,silver, blue, transparent blue, yellow. The big stand out is yellow and the transblue. The transblue is by far the most irritating IMO, since it's inaccurate - it's not the dark trans-blue that the PoW uses, which is fairly irritating since the light transblue is very weak and by far the worst of the transcolours - under some lights, it just looks completely clear except around the edges. Lewa's juist as bad with silver: he's got on his legs and chest and nowhere else, and his axes change colour from silver to gunmetal somehow, which is made worse by the fact that silver axe pieces are already available with Gali. Not to mention the mask's total lack of resemblance to the old Miru, and let's not forget about the extremely limited neck articulation, as well as the slightly limited arm articulation thanks to the beast claws on his shoulders. Really, 'Lewa' is a total disappointment. This is not Lewa. This is some green impostor with a completely different mask. I was also disappointed to find that he was not the old shade of green - it was instead the overly bright and vibrant green from the ultrabuilds. I like Onua a lot more than both of them, but let's not kid ourselves: his torso is far too wide and his arms end up looking more ridiculous than anything else. And while I'm at it, Tahu could do with some trans-orange in places other than his arms. Making the upper leg shells be trans-orange wouldn't hurt. Pohatu could also do with smaller and more stable boomerangs, since his are way too large to be practical, or a different weapon entirely. Kopaka needs less silver and a less gappy shield.

You really have those problems with trans-light blue? I find that it is a fascinating color and have never seen it look weak or clear. Plus, I would be more likely to say that the PoW is the more "inaccurate" one with the trans-blue shells, since it also has trans-light blue bones. Wish we could have seen PoW with Gali's dark azure, but oh well.

I like that Lewa doesn't use so much silver: he has some armor but chooses to rely on his agility for better protection, and thus doesn't layer himself in it. Adds a lot to his character. I disagree that the Mask of Jungle looks nothing like the Miru; it is quite different but I see the resemblances clear as day. The out-of-box head articulation is admittedly pathetic though. You may have found him overall disappointing, but I find he's very much a new Lewa that I quite enjoy.

About Onua, lots of people say he's too wide... But Bionicle characters aren't meant to have incredibly realistic proportions, yes? LEGO sets often exaggerate size one way or the other, so this doesn't bother me a bit.

Pohatu's boomerangs are indeed unwieldy and far too large for him; completely replaced them in my modification of him for that reason.

Kopaka only has his one silver torso piece...and you are 100% right that it is too much silver. (I'm not counting the staff since it's not part of him, only his weapon.)

[Aanchir]

.....How is that a legitimate character trait? Saying that he's a maniac is not a reason for being evil.

Okay, those two had fairly decent back stories. (

But none of those traits had any explanation as to WHY. And really, "dumb muscle" and "speed-obsessed" are not reasons to be evil.....

Okay, his story was pretty decent.

In the end, though, the characters (for the most part) are pretty boring: mostly, the villains were mindless beasts, insane, or just criminals. None of them had any real significance to the story; none of them had unique histories. Of course, there are exceptions, but still.......Even when we got the Bohrok (who, arguably, did get a decent backstory) or the Rahkshi, there was still Makuta as the main villain, who was given quite an interesting history.....

I wasn't arguing that we knew WHY all those characters turned evil, or even that we should. Frankly, I don't think you need to know a character's backstory for them to be interesting if they have an interesting personality. But you said that Hero Factory villains had no characterization, and that they were just described as being evil, which is patently untrue.

How many villains in BIONICLE turned evil for an utterly shallow reason? Other than Zaktan, who lived a miserable life as a slave before the Dark Hunters recruited him, and might believably want to get back at the world for that, we know nothing about why the rest of the Piraka turned to a life of crime. Except, of course, that their species was engineered to be violent and bad-tempered, which isn't really much better than Meltdown who we're told was "built bad". Likewise, Roodaka was always ruthless and traitorous as far as we know, and most of the Barraki became brutal conquerors and dictators as soon as they were given the chance. Yet these were all still compelling characters in their own right. We didn't need to see their "start of darkness" to understand how evil, twisted, and dangerous they were.

Ugh, I hated Von Nebula. One of the worst villains LEGO has ever had just because none of what he ever did made any sense. He runs away from a mission, Stormer saves the day, and vows vengeance on Stormer for... exactly what? Von Nebula had chosen the path of evil long before the event, he was just picking fights by the time of "Rise of the Rookies". He's fueled by petty revenge because he was a coward and abandoned his teammate and became a villain just because of that and Black Phantom's chat with him years beforehand.

The thing about Von Nebula is that he is a coward. Not only is he afraid of danger, he's afraid of owning up to his own mistakes. The reason he wanted revenge on Stormer is because as he saw it, Stormer made him look like a fool and was celebrated as a hero for it.

Von Nebula doesn't understand Stormer's selfless heroism. He thinks of Stormer as a self-righteous glory hog and sees his victory in New Stellac City the same way. If Stormer had just made the sensible choice and retreated, Von Nebula thinks, then nobody would have faulted him for doing the same. After all, they were both just rookies, and nobody expected them to be able to handle the drone attack on their own. But instead, Stormer took an insane risk and, in Von Nebula's eyes, made him look like a gutless deserter while Stormer came out with a sparkling reputation.

Ultimately, his failure to understand Stormer's real motivations is his undoing when he assumes Stormer would never let a rookie like Furno take a decisive victory away from him. In reality, though, we're shown multiple times that Stormer hates being in the spotlight. Remember that Power Core billboard he hates so much? He's isn't interested in fame and fortune, he's just interested in doing what's right. Von Nebula doesn't have that heroic impulse. He acts in his own self-interest and assumes everybody else does the same.

Edited March 11, 2015 by Aanchir

[Phoenix_Flare]

I wasn't arguing that we knew WHY all those characters turned evil, or even that we should. Frankly, I don't think you need to know a character's backstory for them to be interesting if they have an interesting personality. But you said that Hero Factory villains had no characterization, and that they were just described as being evil, which is patently untrue.

How many villains in BIONICLE turned evil for an utterly shallow reason? Other than Zaktan, who lived a miserable life as a slave before the Dark Hunters recruited him, and might believably want to get back at the world for that, we know nothing about why the rest of the Piraka turned to a life of crime. Except, of course, that their species was engineered to be violent and bad-tempered, which isn't really much better than Meltdown who we're told was "built bad". Likewise, Roodaka was always ruthless and traitorous as far as we know, and most of the Barraki became brutal conquerors and dictators as soon as they were given the chance. Yet these were all still compelling characters in their own right. We didn't need to see their "start of darkness" to understand how evil, twisted, and dangerous they were.

The thing about Von Nebula is that he is a coward. Not only is he afraid of danger, he's afraid of owning up to his own mistakes. The reason he wanted revenge on Stormer is because as he saw it, Stormer made him look like a fool and was celebrated as a hero for it.

Von Nebula doesn't understand Stormer's selfless heroism. He thinks of Stormer as a self-righteous glory hog and sees his victory in New Stellac City the same way. If Stormer had just made the sensible choice and retreated, Von Nebula thinks, then nobody would have faulted him for doing the same. After all, they were both just rookies, and nobody expected them to be able to handle the drone attack on their own. But instead, Stormer took an insane risk and, in Von Nebula's eyes, made him look like a gutless deserter while Stormer came out with a sparkling reputation.

Ultimately, his failure to understand Stormer's real motivations is his undoing when he assumes Stormer would never let a rookie like Furno take a decisive victory away from him. In reality, though, we're shown multiple times that Stormer hates being in the spotlight. Remember that Power Core billboard he hates so much? He's isn't interested in fame and fortune, he's just interested in doing what's right. Von Nebula doesn't have that heroic impulse. He acts in his own self-interest and assumes everybody else does the same.

This post is so true. Von Nebula FTW! And I agree; sure if one looks at Hero Factory's characters, plot, and story by looking at it bare bones, but once you actually start paying attention to detail you can start to appreciate this Theme. As I always say: HEROES TO THE CORE!!! Whoo!

[Kalhiki]

Meh. I more often than not prefer head canon over official story anyway. More fun that way.

[DraikNova]

I've always thought that Von Nebula just wanted to kill Stormer for the sake of getting rid of the last remains of his pre-villain history. Also, am I the only person who thinks of Meltdown as a mad scientist-type? His completely bonkers laugh and specially engineered nanobots kinda help with that. And he's also the only villain to ever use a reasonable strategy when attacking. Hit-and-run works.

[Gatanui]

The thing about Von Nebula is that he is a coward. Not only is he afraid of danger, he's afraid of owning up to his own mistakes. The reason he wanted revenge on Stormer is because as he saw it, Stormer made him look like a fool and was celebrated as a hero for it.

Von Nebula doesn't understand Stormer's selfless heroism. He thinks of Stormer as a self-righteous glory hog and sees his victory in New Stellac City the same way. If Stormer had just made the sensible choice and retreated, Von Nebula thinks, then nobody would have faulted him for doing the same. After all, they were both just rookies, and nobody expected them to be able to handle the drone attack on their own. But instead, Stormer took an insane risk and, in Von Nebula's eyes, made him look like a gutless deserter while Stormer came out with a sparkling reputation.

Ultimately, his failure to understand Stormer's real motivations is his undoing when he assumes Stormer would never let a rookie like Furno take a decisive victory away from him. In reality, though, we're shown multiple times that Stormer hates being in the spotlight. Remember that Power Core billboard he hates so much? He's isn't interested in fame and fortune, he's just interested in doing what's right. Von Nebula doesn't have that heroic impulse. He acts in his own self-interest and assumes everybody else does the same.

Thanks for the great and sensible analysis of Von Nebula! Kind of redeems that he was handled pretty poorly in the episodes.

Edited March 11, 2015 by Gatanui

[Aanchir]

I've always thought that Von Nebula just wanted to kill Stormer for the sake of getting rid of the last remains of his pre-villain history. Also, am I the only person who thinks of Meltdown as a mad scientist-type? His completely bonkers laugh and specially engineered nanobots kinda help with that. And he's also the only villain to ever use a reasonable strategy when attacking. Hit-and-run works.

Well, he's one of the few villains who was purely interested in causing trouble for the heroes (or at least, one of the few who was interested in that and not really trying to hide it). A lot of the other villains were interested in taking control of some location or stealing some resource, and in those cases "hit and run" might mean leaving without what they came for. Incapacitating one hero or even one team of heroes would not amount to much in the long term if it leads to Hero Factory or even local police stepping up security around the location/resource you were trying to seize and raising the priority of your capture.

Thanks for the great analysis of Von Nebula! Kind of redeems that he was handled pretty poorly in the episodes.

I think Von Nebula could have been a much more relatable character if we got to see more of what became of him between the botched mission and his return as a villain. Was he actively expelled from the Hero Factory, or did he simply not have the guts to return there and take responsibility for his poor decisions? What became of his Hero Core? How did he earn the loyalty of the other villains? Rise of the Rookies had some great stories, but that last episode was hurt by the entire arc focusing intently on how that mission had affected Stormer (and how that in turn colored Stormer's interactions with Furno), instead of how it had affected Von Ness. So Von Nebula's motivations have to be inferred from his words and actions during and after that mission.

Edited March 11, 2015 by Aanchir

[TheOneVeyronian]

It's funny how things have suddenly turned into a discussion about Hero Factory character development. Gone but not forgotten it appears, makes me wish HS01 was back online actually as it makes me want to read about Hero Factory again

Anyway, something more Bionicle related: I happened to be staring at my modified Onua earlier (one with all the gold replaced with silver), and I just can't help thinking that all the silver parts (maybe except the hammer) should have come in gold. Primarily the shoulder pads and the HF shoulder armour used on Onua's belly. It would have matched the chest decals much better if you ask me, since when you swap out the gold for silver, gold is still left on the chest decal and can look slightly out of place. The only thing that stopped me swapping the silver for gold instead (which I would have preferred if it was possible) is that the shoulder pads and the belly armour don't exist in gold and are likely not to...

[ToaDraco]

I wasn't arguing that we knew WHY all those characters turned evil, or even that we should. Frankly, I don't think you need to know a character's backstory for them to be interesting if they have an interesting personality. But you said that Hero Factory villains had no characterization, and that they were just described as being evil, which is patently untrue.

How many villains in BIONICLE turned evil for an utterly shallow reason? Other than Zaktan, who lived a miserable life as a slave before the Dark Hunters recruited him, and might believably want to get back at the world for that, we know nothing about why the rest of the Piraka turned to a life of crime. Except, of course, that their species was engineered to be violent and bad-tempered, which isn't really much better than Meltdown who we're told was "built bad". Likewise, Roodaka was always ruthless and traitorous as far as we know, and most of the Barraki became brutal conquerors and dictators as soon as they were given the chance. Yet these were all still compelling characters in their own right. We didn't need to see their "start of darkness" to understand how evil, twisted, and dangerous they were.

The thing about Von Nebula is that he is a coward. Not only is he afraid of danger, he's afraid of owning up to his own mistakes. The reason he wanted revenge on Stormer is because as he saw it, Stormer made him look like a fool and was celebrated as a hero for it.

Von Nebula doesn't understand Stormer's selfless heroism. He thinks of Stormer as a self-righteous glory hog and sees his victory in New Stellac City the same way. If Stormer had just made the sensible choice and retreated, Von Nebula thinks, then nobody would have faulted him for doing the same. After all, they were both just rookies, and nobody expected them to be able to handle the drone attack on their own. But instead, Stormer took an insane risk and, in Von Nebula's eyes, made him look like a gutless deserter while Stormer came out with a sparkling reputation.

Ultimately, his failure to understand Stormer's real motivations is his undoing when he assumes Stormer would never let a rookie like Furno take a decisive victory away from him. In reality, though, we're shown multiple times that Stormer hates being in the spotlight. Remember that Power Core billboard he hates so much? He's isn't interested in fame and fortune, he's just interested in doing what's right. Von Nebula doesn't have that heroic impulse. He acts in his own self-interest and assumes everybody else does the same.

Despite popular opinion, I actually enjoyed the ideas and story bits that Hero Factory put forth and Von Nebula was a fairly compelling villain, I just wish he was more of an over-arching Makuta-like villian. Throughout its run, Hero Factory had some great ideas that were never fully explored or taken advantage of and I fear Bionicle ge2 may do the same. I did enjoy the episodes they did and it would be great if we got something similar for Bionicle that uses cgi. Maybe some direct-to-consumer movies-- or better yet, a tv show like Ninjago has. Chima was overall disappointing and really cringe-worthy. Ninjago on the other hand, I find quite enjoyable and done quite well, not to mention the voice acting and dialog between the characters is pretty darn good. I'm actually rather surprised that we haven't gotten a ,Ninjago console game in the vein of LEGO Marvel/Batman/StarWars. I would totally buy it. I would be incredibly happy if we got a new Bionicle console game for that matter. Heck, I'd even be happy with a 3ds Bionicle game seeing as LEGO isn't confident enough that they're home-grown themes would make it in the console market like the licensed themes do, so we might just be stuck with boring little free "app" games, since apparently that's what kids do nowadays, sigh....

Agreed on all points. My only gripe about Onua is that his mask is extremely loose - or is it just me? Anyways, he's hands down my favourite set this wave, and probably my favorite construction set ever.

I built the last of all my Toa last week, and if I had to rank them, it'd be Onua > Kopaka > Gali > Tahu > Lewa > Pohatu. Gali is the real show stealer, I opened her last and didn't expect to like her so much. She's one of those sets you can just hold in your hand and marvel at all day. It could be that lovely new blue, or that gorgeous Kaukau, or the fact that I'm a huge fan of large pole weapons... Either way, everything comes together very nicely on her.

The mask on my Onua is quite snug. Also, I too find Onua to be the best by far, just an incredible set. I could be a tad bit biased though, considering Onua was always my favorite Toa. I still think the gold classes with the rest of his colors and should have just been silver, while Lewa should have gotten the gold since gold, keetongorange and green work well together imo. I've gotten used to it though and it looks better in person.

[Dorek]

Whoop got Lewa so I could get the Hero Pack. Was thinking about getting PoJ too, but I'll save that for a later date (in case there's another GWP down the line =P).

[Aethersprite]

Never really understood the mask issue... never had it. What are you people doing; bashing them into the walls?

Not gonna comment on the rest, mysteriouspi summed up my thoughts pretty well.

As for the mask issue, it's just Onua for me. His mask rattles around on his head, it's pretty annoying. The masks of the rest of my Toa fit on pretty snugly.

[Dorek]

Tahu's is a little loose for me, and Lewa's definitely doesn't fit right because of how the set is designed overall. But it's not so bad; it's not falling off when the set is just standing still. They're as bad as, say, the 2001 Kanohi =P.

[Phoenix_Flare]

Huh... Everytime I Look at the Region of Jungle, I think of Jungle Biomes in Minecraft. When I think of Jungle Biomes from Minecraft, I think of Cocoa Beans. When I think of Cocoa Beans, I think of Chocolate. And when I think of Chocolate, I immediately think of this:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/355/1/8/they_re_selling_chawklets_by_ibionicle8v-d8anitf.jpg

[CabooseBM]

Man, when I think of Minecraft Jungles, I immediately think of horrible Jungle Spiders, but I guess I don't play vanilla and no one's going to understand what I'm talking about.

[DraikNova]

When I think of the Region of Jungle, I think of Mokole-Mbembe. That, in turn, leads to Bota Magna.

[Mandate]

The thing about Von Nebula is that he is a coward. Not only is he afraid of danger, he's afraid of owning up to his own mistakes. The reason he wanted revenge on Stormer is because as he saw it, Stormer made him look like a fool and was celebrated as a hero for it.

Von Nebula doesn't understand Stormer's selfless heroism. He thinks of Stormer as a self-righteous glory hog and sees his victory in New Stellac City the same way. If Stormer had just made the sensible choice and retreated, Von Nebula thinks, then nobody would have faulted him for doing the same. After all, they were both just rookies, and nobody expected them to be able to handle the drone attack on their own. But instead, Stormer took an insane risk and, in Von Nebula's eyes, made him look like a gutless deserter while Stormer came out with a sparkling reputation.

Ultimately, his failure to understand Stormer's real motivations is his undoing when he assumes Stormer would never let a rookie like Furno take a decisive victory away from him. In reality, though, we're shown multiple times that Stormer hates being in the spotlight. Remember that Power Core billboard he hates so much? He's isn't interested in fame and fortune, he's just interested in doing what's right. Von Nebula doesn't have that heroic impulse. He acts in his own self-interest and assumes everybody else does the same.

But that's exactly the problem. Von Nebula is a shell - he's nothing. He's driven by burning hatred for Stormer, yet for no actual reason. He's a tryhard failure looking to blame everyone else for his problems and when he can't get his way, he throws a tantrum and swears revenge. He has no actual reason to hate Stormer other than what he (Von Nebula) did himself. He assembles a small army of villains (and eventually a giant one if that's how you interpreted Breakout) but to accomplish what? Petty revenge? What's going to change? He bases every ounce of anger and hatred on a facade of a person and never actually stops to do some actual thinking about his life of crime. Sure, he has nowhere to go after he made a fool of himself, but that's about it. He doesn't even try to make up for his mistakes, he just insists that the only way is to kill Stormer. His motive is so flawed at its core that he's like the Joker, he has no reason to do what he does, except that the Joker is psychotic and Von Nebula is completely sane.

In short, he's stupid, illogical, hot-tempered, a traitor, and not even worth the five minutes of screen time he had. He's so boring that filler characters like Captain Soto and his pirates from NINJAGO were far more entertaining to watch.

edit: To clarify, when I said "facade of a person" I meant the false construct of Stormer he had in his mind.

Edited March 12, 2015 by Mandate

[Phoenix_Flare]

But that's exactly the problem. Von Nebula is a shell - he's nothing. He's driven by burning hatred for Stormer, yet for no actual reason. He's a tryhard failure looking to blame everyone else for his problems and when he can't get his way, he throws a tantrum and swears revenge. He has no actual reason to hate Stormer other than what he (Von Nebula) did himself. He assembles a small army of villains (and eventually a giant one if that's how you interpreted Breakout) but to accomplish what? Petty revenge? What's going to change? He bases every ounce of anger and hatred on a facade of a person and never actually stops to do some actual thinking about his life of crime. Sure, he has nowhere to go after he made a fool of himself, but that's about it. He doesn't even try to make up for his mistakes, he just insists that the only way is to kill Stormer. His motive is so flawed at its core that he's like the Joker, he has no reason to do what he does, except that the Joker is psychotic and Von Nebula is completely sane.

Oh Yeah... Because Having a Black Hole hovering over an ENTIRE CITY is "sane". That and Stormer himself dubbed him as "Von Nutcase" (which was a funny scene btw - made me laugh) Does that classify Von Nebula as "sane'!? Comon man: Black Hole Staff! Doesn't get any crazier than that! Edited March 12, 2015 by Phoenix_Flare

[Mandate]

Oh Yeah... Because Having a Black Hole hovering over an ENTIRE CITY is "sane". That and Stormer himself dubbed him as "Von Nutcase" (which was a funny scene btw - made me laugh) Does that classify Von Nebula as "sane'!? Comon man: Black Hole Staff! Doesn't get any crazier than that!

And exactly when was anyone other than Stormer or Furno actually in danger of said black hole? The black hole doesn't even kill people, it only transports or traps them.

Yes, Von Nebula did some crazy things. But relatively speaking, yes, he was sane. Sane in comparison to, say, Harvey Dent, the Joker, Harley Quinn. There are people that have lived in this world that have done "worse" things. Look up any form of ancient torture device used en mass and being trapped inside a staff pales by comparison. Atrocities committed not even a century ago, done to entire armies and ethnic groups, were done by perfectly sane people but with twisted views of reality. You can argue all you want about the specifics of cartoon villains, but really, Von Nebula is comparable to the Claw from Inspector Gadget 2.

Edited March 12, 2015 by Mandate

[Logan McOwen]

Disassembled all my Toa and Skull Spiders yesterday... Was left with around 63+ Skull Spider legs. What the dickens am I going to do with all of those?

[Mandate]

Disassembled all my Toa and Skull Spiders yesterday... Was left with around 63+ Skull Spider legs. What the dickens am I going to do with all of those?

Create an Iron Throne?

But seriously though, there's a few uses for them (most have nothing to do with CCBS). Painted brown they could be tree roots or in green, vines. Upside down, if you were to recreate the Pyro from TF2 they would do great as the igniter for the flamethrower. With a little ingenuity, you could use them as handcuffs or restraints of some kind. Maybe even something like Skull Slicer's chain claw.

[Kalhiki]

Disassembled all my Toa and Skull Spiders yesterday... Was left with around 63+ Skull Spider legs. What the dickens am I going to do with all of those?

Teeth and claws. Lots and lots of teeth and claws.

[Mandate]

Teeth and claws. Lots and lots of teeth and claws.

Ooh, CCBS Fenrakk anyone? ...except his teeth would be gunmetal.