Robert8 Posted July 18, 2015 Author Posted July 18, 2015 I guess no GR makes sense, and the Banshee isn't really a ghost, so I suppose she can coexist with the Specter. Where, then, did the Grim Reaper come from in the original Czech translation? This is what the Czech site said: Užij si zábavu, při které mrazí, s 16 úplně novými minifigurkami z říše příšer 14. řady kolekce LEGO Minifigurky! Každá minifigurka je zabalená v 'tajuplném' uzavřeném sáčku a má své vlastní doplňky, podstavec a sběratelský letáček. Vydej se do světa příšer s touhle hrůzostrašnou kolekcí: Bláznivý vědec, Muchopříšera, Šílená čarodějnice, Chrlič, Hrůzokolébač, Pavoučí dáma, Smrtka, Zjevení, Kostlivec, Velkonoh, Tygří žena, Vlkodlak, Zombie pirát, Zombie roztleskávačka, Zombie byznysman a Příšerostlina. Stáhni si hru LEGO Minifigurky Online na LEGO.com/minifigures. V kombinaci se stavebnicemi LEGO získáš ještě širší herní možnosti. Smrtka literally means the personification of Death. Google it and see what you get. If someone translated a random ghost as "Smrtka" .... well someone sucks at translating Quote
Dragonfire Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 About the Specter; think Casper the Friendly Ghost, without the licensing fees. Exactly! Quote
legofanatic12 Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) If the Grim Reaper did not featured in the final list of this series, maybe he will be in the next series. Smrtka literally means the personification of Death. Google it and see what you get. If someone translated a random ghost as "Smrtka" .... well someone sucks at translating I googled it and it shows some pictures of a grim reaper. Maybe he could be in the list. Edited July 18, 2015 by legofanatic12 Quote
Borex Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Well if there isn't a grim reaper i do hope for some evilness in the banshee. Quote
Sir Walter Maugham Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I'll take just2good's word over a catalog. That guy is just2infallible. So... that still leaves the question, what/who is that hair made for? I mean, am I the only one who thought that maybe, just maybe, the personification of mortality might be a little dark to throw into a theme for 8 year-olds to stand shoulder to shoulder with a guy in a Skeleton Costume? What? The Grim Reaper is one of the most common costumes during Halloween for all ages. I trip over plastic scythes every time I go down the costume isle in Walmart. The Grim Reaper wouldn't be a inappropriate choice at all, it would be a fitting and expected choice. Quote
obsidianheart Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I'll take just2good's word over a catalog. That guy is just2infallible. So... that still leaves the question, what/who is that hair made for? What? The Grim Reaper is one of the most common costumes during Halloween for all ages. I trip over plastic scythes every time I go down the costume isle in Walmart. The Grim Reaper wouldn't be a inappropriate choice at all, it would be a fitting and expected choice. I suppose you are right. It is a pretty common Halloween character. I guess I was being cranky, I apologize.I dunno. We got a recent list that omits him, we haven't seen him, and now we've got people whining that he looks stupid, when that's pretty clearly not a Reaper. It's just getting old, y'know. Quote
8BrickMario Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Where is this Just2good confirmation? Is he just repeating what we (thought we) knew, or was it a recent find that listed the Reaper. Right now, I'm inclined to believe that there is a Specter and a Banshee, but no Grim Reaper. I can't see translucent wild hair being used elsewhere, and the Specter is clearly not the GR at all. If this recent list omits him, then I think it's likely to be correct. "Dead spirit" could easily be mistaken for "Death itself" in translation. Quote
just2good Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I'll take just2good's word over a catalog. That guy is just2infallible. Aww, well thanks! But I think I made a mistake with a piece of information on Series 14, so which are you talking about so I can clear it up. Quote
Mr Greeble Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Aww, well thanks! But I think I made a mistake with a piece of information on Series 14, so which are you talking about so I can clear it up. If the specter with the chains and ninjago wisp piece is the grim reaper, or we just haven't see him yet. Quote
8BrickMario Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) I think the truth is this: There's no Grim Reaper. Somewhere along the translation process, there was a mistake. This series will have the standard five females, and the final one is the Banshee or other female spirit. She will use the large frizzy hair. Bigfoot and GR were the only ones we saw no leaks for, but we did see the suspiciously translucent hairdo. Honestly, I'm not too bothered. A Grim Reaper minifigure is just about the easiest purist custom to make, and it would be a big challenge to make him look unique from what they've done before. Somehow, the Specter and Banshee became Specter and Grim Reaper. Edited July 18, 2015 by 8BrickMario Quote
just2good Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) If the specter with the chains and ninjago wisp piece is the grim reaper, or we just haven't see him yet. I don't remember what I said before, but that hood guy (with the chains and wisp) is what I've called the Grimm Reaper and what I will call the Grimm Reaper until official names come out. Keep in mind that I never saw the full series and never have, but I heard parts of it from my insiders and saw parts of it from my insiders, that cloaked guy shown there is one of them- and not even to the final extent to what was shown off yesterday. Edited July 18, 2015 by just2good Quote
gedren_y Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) In certain mythololgies, a banshee is supposed to have the body of a beautiful woman and the head of a rabbit with sharp teeth, clothed in rags. It is a herald of imminent death. It is never actually supposed to harm anyone. I wll be very surprized if Lego gives her a fanged rabbit face. The various translations gave us quite a good discussion around the Rocker Monster and Bigfoot. It doesn't surprize me that Grim Reaper might be a mis-translation. It seems that the original Czech list may have been a bad translation of a bad translation. Banshee is an English derivation of the original ban-sidhe, which refers to a dead fey spirit. Edited July 18, 2015 by gedren_y Quote
8BrickMario Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Yeah I remember. "Horror cradle" was quite a challenge for a while, so I can totally see "dead guy" being conflated with "Death", and there actually being two spirits, one an ominous fae, and one a traditional cloaked ghost in chains. The Grim Reaper seems to be a translation error, and it makes sense, as it wouldn't be unique and would bring down the standard number of females. Unless instructed not to, why didn't the image source take a picture of the checklist? That would have cleared everything up! Edited July 18, 2015 by 8BrickMario Quote
Robert8 Posted July 18, 2015 Author Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) So, the czech site mistranslated the Banshee (premonition of Death) as a Grim Reaper and coincidentally j2g made a mistake about a piece of info given to him and thought The Grim Reaper was in the series. That explains it all, I think. A Banshee is kind of a surprise. It could be a interesting minifigure. I updated the first post with the new list Edited July 18, 2015 by Robert8 Quote
kelceycoe Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 According to what I read (and I know its wikipedia) a Banshee is around when someone is about to die. She often sings a song when someone has died but in of herself isn't really a monster, like the Grim Reaper, but a fairy. So she doesn't actually kill people like Death but rather sings to tell about a death. Speaking of which... it looks like that Ghost's head glows in the dark. Quote
8BrickMario Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Yes, she's not malevolent, but she's certainly very frightening. One of "the fair folk". I'd like to put her with the Bagpiper! "Harbinger of death" could easily be mistranslated. I noticed the Specter's face, too. Surprising, as they've never done a glow-in-the-dark CMF before, even when there were good candidates. I wonder why they suddenly did it. Quote
Robert8 Posted July 18, 2015 Author Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) As a confirmation, the order of the names in the Argos list fit with the ones of the czech site list, with the exception of the Grim Reaper/Banshee Argos: 1. Crazy Scientist 2. Fly Monster 3. Wacky Witch 4. Gargoyle 5. Monster Rocker 6. Spider Lady 7. Banshee 8. Spectre 9. Skeleton Guy 10. Square foot 11. Tiger Woman 12. Werewolf 13. Zombie Pirate 14. Zombie Cheerleader 15. Zombie Businessman 16. Plant Monster Czech site: 1. Mad Scientist 2. The Fly 3. Crazy Witch 4. Gargoyle 5. Horror Rocker 6. Spider Lady 7. Grim Reaper 8. Specter 9. Skeleton Guy 10. Bigfoot 11. Tiger Woman 12. Werewolf 13. Zombie Pirate Captain 14. Zombie Cheerleader 15. Zombie Businessman 16. Plant Monster Edited July 19, 2015 by Robert8 Quote
8BrickMario Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Then the mystery's solved. The Czech translation wasn't very good, and nothing's out of order with this series' statistics. Seeing as we had virtually no evidence of a Grim Reaper minifigure, I wasn't surprised, and I'm infinitely happier with a female spirit. Will she have a dress or a white Genie tail? I'm inclined to think she'll be full-bodied, but her color scheme (as evidenced by the trans-black hair) should be very interesting indeed. Quote
Sir Walter Maugham Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Aw man, I really wanted a Grim Reaper figure for the possibility of a new molded scythe and easily obtained tattered black capes. Oh well. I'm not, uh, invested in gender ratios. So the 4 female thing didn't bother me. I just like neat figures, no matter the chromosomes. And IMO Reaper > Banshee. But as 8BrickMario pointed out, at least the trans-black hair means she might have a unique color scheme. Hopefully she will won't be goofy like the Specter. Quote
VictorFrenchFries Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) I was looking for the fly picture and I found it but I also found this hairpiece: http://minifigpriceguide.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Lego-71010-Series-14-Specter-or-Phantom-Spirit.jpg You have probably seen it but who does it belong too. Edited July 18, 2015 by VictorFrenchFries Quote
8BrickMario Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Definitely has to be our Banshee. It's big, wild, and spooky. Quote
jluck Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 I was looking for the fly picture and I found it but I also found this hairpiece: http://minifigpriceguide.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Lego-71010-Series-14-Specter-or-Phantom-Spirit.jpg You have probably seen it but who does it belong too. The url says "Spector or phantom". Quote
strangely Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 The ghost is kind of interesting. It doesn't exactly fit with the others as the molded wisp piece kind of makes it seem like this isn't just a person in a costume, which the others are. This is a pretty solid series for me. It'll be interesting to see the last few revealed. Quote
fred67 Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 And the vampiress isn't a vampiress, she's a spider lady. Whatever that is. Quote
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