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... one of the worst ideas NASA has ever had (check http://en.m.wikipedi...Shuttle_program) ...

Very critical ... I guess you never had bad ideas of your own? It only takes a knowledgeable/experienced engineer to 'appreciate' the complications/challenges behind putting such vehicle together. I assure you, besides the pride and joy (and frustrations), that achievement is very 'humbling' to all those who got involved with such project. ;)

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What a cool alternative model! I like that you've placed satelite inside cargo bay. How many set parts in percent did you use for it?

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These are the parts I didn't need.

16186645679_25c2d47bed_n.jpgShuttle 5 by jamesjtillson, on Flickr

I spent 2 hour today on the LDD file and It is nearly done. I'm happy to share the file but I don't want to spend any more time time making step by step instructions - all those white parts have left me snow blind.

I think this would be very hard for somebody else to build, the landing gear is easy enough but the doors and the arm/satellite need to be set up just right to start and finish in the right place.

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Very critical ... I guess you never had bad ideas of your own? It only takes a knowledgeable/experienced engineer to 'appreciate' the complications/challenges behind putting such vehicle together. I assure you, besides the pride and joy (and frustrations), that achievement is very 'humbling' to all those who got involved with such project. ;)

I know the shuttle is agreat technological achievement but it was much more expensive to reuse than a expendable rocket to build and launch. Roscosmos' 60 year old technology does the same things for a cheaper price.

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I know the shuttle is agreat technological achievement but it was much more expensive to reuse than a expendable rocket to build and launch. Roscosmos' 60 year old technology does the same things for a cheaper price.

It's only half true actually. Shuttle was designed so it's cargo bay could hold nuclear missiles and the vehicle itself was designed to fly once in 1-2 weeks the whole year. In that case space shipping cost is much lesser. Lesser than a convenient rocket. However by the time of completion neither the government nor private companies could not provide such amount of "missions" because there were tremendous cut to the budget and new nuclear ballistic rockets were available. So there was no real need for a shuttle or russian clone.

The people overestimated the market, it's one of the reasons that holds space exploration in the lower Earth orbit since the end of 60's. Look at russians - they fly a modification of R-7! It's from 60's!!!!!!!

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It's only half true actually. Shuttle was designed so it's cargo bay could hold nuclear missiles and the vehicle itself was designed to fly once in 1-2 weeks the whole year. In that case space shipping cost is much lesser. Lesser than a convenient rocket. However by the time of completion neither the government nor private companies could not provide such amount of "missions" because there were tremendous cut to the budget and new nuclear ballistic rockets were available. So there was no real need for a shuttle or russian clone.

The people overestimated the market, it's one of the reasons that holds space exploration in the lower Earth orbit since the end of 60's. Look at russians - they fly a modification of R-7! It's from 60's!!!!!!!

You're right, there was a lack of flights that made it more expensive but the manteinance itself was very costly, I think more expensive than a full Soyuz or Proton. Using upgraded versions of R-7 is not a bad idea. That makes it cheaper. According to Spanish astronaut Pedro Duque Soyuz is also safer than the Shuttle. Using the STS to send satellites to low earth orbit with crew is obvisly a worst idea than sending them in a unmanned russian or european ship.

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Soyuz is safer because it is used for more than 50 years. Every aspect of it's usage was learned, documented, and corrected if needed. Also it's far less complex as a mechanism, it's one-off, and launch is far less complex. As some say - quadratisch, praktisch, GUT!

Well not "quadratisch" but definitely praktisch and GUT

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Great model (like all the others already said, but compliments are always nice :tongue: )

It is amazing how you were able to convey the illusion of a black and white spaceship with so few black pieces. It must be because you mimiced the shape so well that my mind automatically fills in the black details even if they are not there.

Very cunning satelite deploy system, at first I thought that gravity was extending the solar panels, but apparently they are driven too... Very ingenious... :thumbup:

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Tinted snow goggles ready? The LDD file is finished. It is only 117Kb which feels a bit small for a 722 part model.

LDD file doesn't include the stand but I expect most people on here could build it just by looking at a few pictures.

PM me your email if you want it.

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i would like to build it

can you post ldd to my email adress?

its here:

efeyakaratlantik@hotmail.com

or

efe.yakar@hotmail.com

thanks

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Tinted snow goggles ready? The LDD file is finished. It is only 117Kb which feels a bit small for a 722 part model.

LDD file doesn't include the stand but I expect most people on here could build it just by looking at a few pictures.

PM me your email if you want it.

Can you post?

efe.yakar@hotmail.com

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Well done James.

I see those posting their emails are new members who cant send PMs, but if you have sent the file they can edit their address from their post.

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I see those posting their emails are new members who cant send PMs,

hello, i'm interesting also to have the LDD file of your great moc, i can't send PMs ;)

thanks a lot

perauxa @ gmail.com

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How the hell that thing is supposed to move? Is that model functional?

Looks to me like a linear actuator bracket should go there and is probably missing from LDD.

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