CM4Sci Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 From Reddit - these advertising standee things and more of them appear in the retailer catalog. Quote
Kliq Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 I wonder who will be the next big villain in the theme after Jestro. Quote
Dr_Chronos Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 From Reddit - these advertising standee things and more of them appear in the retailer catalog. Cool stuff. Which thread was that from? Quote
Robert8 Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 I'm not sure, but she doesn't have that 'princess' look, with the fancy dress. Not that I think all Castle themes need these characters, just that they typically are included and almost expected. So this is a Castle theme? Quote
x105Black Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 So this is a Castle theme? My opinion, no. According to a LEGO employee, yes. Quote
Cagast Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 So this is a Castle theme? Yes it is a Castle theme, as it has, well, castles and knights. It's just not a historic theme. Quote
x105Black Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 Yes it is a Castle theme, as it has, well, castles and knights. It's just not a historic theme. A Castle-Tank hybrid, to be precise. Quote
Amazing Bricks Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Can we just say it's both a castle and action theme? Let's just end this conversation and say both of those. Edited October 24, 2015 by amazingbricks Quote
BrickFit26 Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 I agree, I see it as both a castle and action theme. I can't wait to get my hand on some of these sets. Quote
x105Black Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 I'm looking forward to the theme's Mech, despite the fact that it does not resemble a Castle theme in any way (except that it's the "King's" Mech). Quote
Peppermint_M Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 Please can we put this to rest? It is an Action Castle theme. We get Action Diving, we get Action Ninjas, we get Action Mining... Now we can add Action Castle to the list. Quote
BrickJagger Posted October 25, 2015 Author Posted October 25, 2015 That new store display looks pretty nice. I like how the top of the arch mimics Fortrex. Regarding the Castle/Action debate, can't we just make a subforum for "Big Bang Themes" as a middle ground to the argument? Quote
Aanchir Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Regarding the Castle/Action debate, can't we just make a subforum for "Big Bang Themes" as a middle ground to the argument? That wouldn't really be effective. "Big bang" themes have less in common than some people might think. For instance, Friends is considered a "big bang" theme. It's not an "action theme" by any stretch of the imagination, but it was rolled out with a similar character-driven, multimedia, high-investment marketing approach. Plus, we don't really know enough about the LEGO Group's internal classifications to know which pre-2010 themes would be classified as "big bang" themes. Quote
BrickJagger Posted October 25, 2015 Author Posted October 25, 2015 That wouldn't really be effective. "Big bang" themes have less in common than some people might think. For instance, Friends is considered a "big bang" theme. It's not an "action theme" by any stretch of the imagination, but it was rolled out with a similar character-driven, multimedia, high-investment marketing approach. Plus, we don't really know enough about the LEGO Group's internal classifications to know which pre-2010 themes would be classified as "big bang" themes. I consider the three Bing Bangs to be Ninjago, Chima, and Nexo Knights, considering that Lego has had same approach to each. They all have/had a complex storyline, TV show, book series, visual guides/sticker books, rotating bad guys, mobile fortresses, main group of heroes, gimmicks, ect. I consider Friends to be Lego's female-oriented version of City, just as Elves is a female-oriented version of Castle. Quote
x105Black Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 They make female oriented Castle with Elves, and male oriented Castle with Nexo Knights. Castle was better when it was just 1 theme for both genders. Quote
ChristopheQ Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) They make female oriented Castle with Elves, and male oriented Castle with Nexo Knights. Castle was better when it was just 1 theme for both genders. hum... Lego Castle themes were always full of soldiers, adding one queen every year didn't make them equally appealing for boys and girls I wonder who will be the next big villain in the theme after Jestro. Jestro could stay in the background. Ninjago style... I wish the new bad guy will be a necromancer, or some orcish shaman with a cool mask the big question is : will the Book of Monster stay as the real evil power, picking a new master for 2017 Edited October 25, 2015 by ChristopheQ Quote
Nabii Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Plus, we don't really know enough about the LEGO Group's internal classifications to know which pre-2010 themes would be classified as "big bang" themes. The LEGO design team is split into two groups, one is LEGO Classic, Friends, Duplo, Technic, Constraction, Creator etc. - so mostly non-minifigure. The second team is all based around minifigure themes. Big Bang is a term first coined in the minifigure theme side and means a lot of stuff is thrown in on top of the usual development: TV shows, Comics, Computer Games, Websites etc. The first modern Big Bang is Ninjago, but during development Exo-Force, Power Miners and Atlantis were all considered big bang themes (I first heard the term ‘big bang’used somewhere between Power Miners and Atlantis development. Although not developed from inception to be one Friends became one as it has all the same development challenges. Some good arguments could be made that Bionicle was the first big bang theme too as it faced all these challenges several years before the current big bangs. (I could make an argument for Fabuland being one too given it’s multiple books and comics back in the 1980’s.) So I’m not sure you want to make a sub forum with Bionicle, Friends and Ninjago lumped together? The big bangs will always come from multiple years of testing both the setting and the premise, always be original and always catch you off guard as they are a fresh and original take on a world that will become a setting for kids imaginations. On the ‘is this a castle theme’ thing, we don’t really categorise things in such ways internally, a theme is that theme. To us LEGO Nexo Knights is a castle theme with fantasy/tech edging.If Nexo Knights is classified externally (by our fans) as a castle theme or not is completely irrelevant to how we do our jobs! (Though I have to be honest Eurobricks categories confuse me, I don’t really understand why LotR’s is in ‘historic’ if Elves and Adventurers are not!) I remember reading comments on Space Police 3 when pictures first surfaced that this was not a real space theme because it just had flying cars and they wished we would make a more classic space theme. So this is nothing new! Quote
Peppermint_M Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Thank you for the wise words Nabii, also the inside information is always neat! Now. Will everyone please GIVE IT A REST. By consensus of the moderators and plenty of user demand, Nexo Knights was deemed to better fit the Action and Adventure Theme template than the Historic Theme template here on Eurobricks. Please take your assorted whinging and complaining to a more fitting thread elsewhere. I am sure Historic has somewhere you can wring your hands about the lack of traditional castle themes, there is certainly a thread active about gender in LEGO marketing/themes and it is not difficult to create a thread to debate how EB places themes within the forum architecture over in Forum Information and Help. This thread is here to discuss the Nexo Knight themes in the context of the sets, their features, appearance in stores, advertising and elements. While there is some space for comparative discussion, long winded or one sentence posts about how it is/is not castle don't add anything to the thread and are getting really boring now. Personally, I think many features of Nexo Knights fit into the Action and Adventure Theme classification. (Shameless self promotion) So, could we stick to the actual topic of the thread now? Quote
K_Tiger Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I wish the new bad guy will be a necromancer, or some orcish shaman with a cool mask A necromancer would be a righteous villain, and the minions could be equally great. Then I remember the toning down the Chima Ice Hunters got between the wonderful concept sketches and the end-product. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, and I kind of feel bad that the line hasn't even hit retail yet and I'm already looking to move on to a new baddie. Quote
x105Black Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I'm already looking to move on to a new theme. As far as a necromancer is concerned, that usually means a lot of undead warriors (zombies, skeletons, etc), and that's not really what I'm personally into. But the idea of a shaman is great. I'd love to see some sort of dark sorcerer in a really nice tower set. Since the tech seems to be mostly on the side of the Nexo Knights, the sorcerer and tower could be very medieval in appearance. But as for the actual series that we're getting, I love the look of some of these bad guys. I'm expecting that trend to continue throughout the duration of this theme, as the cyber-knights don't appeal to me much at all. I'd hope for some better armor and weapons for them, and more location sets like the Library, which looks like a nice set. Quote
Exetrius Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I wish the new bad guy will be a necromancer, or some orcish shaman with a cool mask Yay for villains with cool masks! I'd love to see "mask visors" which attach to helmets (modern and samurai style). Just picture Bionicle's Mask of Creation, scaled down, in gunmetal, on a minifig helmet! Would also work for the Dimensions Sauron minifig. Quote
Dannylonglegs Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) I would indeed be interested to see how this theme proresses. One thing I actually really like about Ninjago, despite all my griping about the childishness of the concept, is that they really have been touching on some of the classic tropes of Japanese (and other Asian countries's) folklore and turning them into their own action theme. Skeletons and Kabuki masked oni-esque villain first wave. Evil snake monsters in the second wave, stone warriors (kinda more obviously a Chinese trope, but I'm sure there's some obscure Japanese folk story related to that) That look like samurai with kabuki mask faces. Snake cultists (not really Japanese there, but more of a redo of the previous wave) and now ghosts, which are huge in Japanese folklore. So what I want to see from this theme is some clever twists on more traditional European fantasy elements. As this theme is also a very subtle Warhammer 40k ripoff, then Perhaps after the demonic arc is over, they will fight dark elves (maybe teaming up with good elves) or perhaps a mummy horde Ala the boudon concept art. Maybe we'll have dragon people enemies, using the gargoyle wing piece in a variety of different colours! Also possible are orc ripoffs, a la the Trolls from Fantasy Era. They've been done a lot... but come on. It's a real classic. And it sells. Anot her thought I had would be spider people. They did it in Chima, so that's a detractor from its likelyhood, but it spiders are a common enemy in European Fantasy and eastern fantasy, so it's possible. Also, bat people and maybe a vampire in charge of them would be great in later arcs. (Like a modern take on Fright Knights? I could actually see that theme adapted to fit into this universe really well) Maybe bat themed villains? Or gargoyle themed? Maybe Golems? Edit: jeez: I forgot perhaps one of the most obvious villain choices if we're going by Western folklore! Giants! Bigfigs are more and more common! We could see giants (maybe teaming up with a smaller subspecies) I really could see dark elves become the Serpantine of this theme though. ~Insectoid Aristocrat Edited October 25, 2015 by Dannylonglegs Quote
dannallcorn Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Giants seem plauasble as Axl is of that species so to speak. Do like the idea of dark elves etc. Mind you with the Book of monsters anything is possible albeit only doing lava demons at the moment. As a theme though i am really excited by it and although most people have said against Lances horse set the fact it turns into a bike had me sold from the start. Quote
Takanuinuva Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 As long as they don't do skeletons. I'll be fine with whatever enemies they face in later years. Quote
rodiziorobs Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I really could see dark elves become the Serpantine of this theme though. ~Insectoid Aristocrat Dark elves would be nice--it might give us a chance to make up for not getting any sets from Thor:TDW. Even if they don't look like those, it is a concept TLG could definitely work with and put out some nice 'figs. Quote
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