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Lots of freak outs here. MOCers will wait and see. Sorry if I'm too calm about it all.

I'm in on this one, too. It sounds like it has potential, but one way or the other doesn't bother me. I don't really collect themes or sets, anyway, I collect parts and, more recently, minifigs (to part out). As long as it can deliver that at a good value, I'm happy. :thumbup:

Even better would be if it delivers at terribly marked-up prices, doesn't sell, and I pick them up on clearance. :devil::laugh:

That's the problem with the Elves line. I really like those sets but have yet to open my wallet to them, because as much as I like the parts the 'dolls do nothing for me. I would pick them up at a discount, but the theme sells too well to be put out on clearance. Yet.

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Hi guys, I'm technically new but I've been reading content from this site for several years.

Recently we learned that there will be no Castle sets in 2015. Knowing this, I went to my local Lego store and tracked down the store manager. I asked him if he knew if there were any Castle related products coming out that he knew of, and, to my surprise, he did. He said that Lego had sent him a memo recently that said they were working on a new Castle line due out late 2015- Mid 2016 at the latest.

When I asked him what kind of Castle theme it would be, he said "It's a lot like the Castle theme from a few years ago, the one with the Dwarves and Trolls." I believe that this is referring to the 2007-2009 Castle line. He also said that the current Castle line will receive no further products and should be off the shelves soon.

I am not sure if this is true, but it sounded like it was and the man seemed to know what was going on at Lego.

If this is true....... :excited: :excited:

Please discuss.

Dwarves and trolls, eh? :hmpf_bad:

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Dwarves and trolls, eh? :hmpf_bad:

For what it's worth:

"It's a lot like the Castle theme from a few years ago, the one with the Dwarves and Trolls."

Emphasis added. I'm not going to pretend I'm excited about a "Blade Cruiser" or a "Robo-Horse"...but for all we know, the bad guy side could be made of lava monsters or demons of darkness...and those things would be "like" the Fantasy Era, as far as I'm concerned. Too many people are ready to crucify Brickjagger because they took the rumor too literally, and frankly we don't have enough information yet to know one way or the other.

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Too many people are ready to crucify Brickjagger because they took the rumor too literally, and frankly we don't have enough information yet to know one way or the other.

Agreed.

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Thundercats got a reboot. Lego tried to get it, but we ended up with Chima.

Lego got Scooby-Doo.

This seeming like an in-house Masters of the Universe (supposedly a reboot is in development), has me greatly anticipating its release.

The only one missing from my childhood cartoon favs now is Silverhawks.

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The only one missing from my childhood cartoon favs now is Silverhawks.

Why, oh, why, did you have to write that? I can UNread it! Or forget it! And now I need it! Silverhawks FTW!

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Too many people are ready to crucify Brickjagger because they took the rumor too literally, and frankly we don't have enough information yet to know one way or the other.

I concur.

The guy just posted the info his source told him.

But I understand: We were expecting Fantasy Era II and it ended up being KK3

Some members are still in shock. We may even need group therapy :classic:

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As long as we can build castles while we talk it out.

ROBO-Castles, that is. Oops!

Here's something:

Two guys that worked on TLM and the Ninjago TV show, Dan and Kevin Hageman, said that the new theme is Knights Nexo, not Nexo Knights. Just2Good was right.....

Maybe these guys are working on that rumored TV show?

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ROBO-Castles, that is. Oops!

Here's something:

Two guys that worked on TLM and the Ninjago TV show, Dan and Kevin Hageman, said that the new theme is Knights Nexo, not Nexo Knights. Just2Good was right.....

Maybe these guys are working on that rumored TV show?

Where and when did they say this? I wanna know more!

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Chima is Lego answer on WOW, there is rumor Blizzard asked Lego to Make WOW sets, but they wwanted to discard a Lego minifig completly to fit Warcraft style better. In Answer Lego they made chima to show they can do "Fantasy War" setting even without too many specialised pieces. Or something like that.

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So if these are the set names maybe all isn't lost. Just me guessing what the sets might be about. The names sort of makes me think that each character might have their own weapons based on an element.

70130 Knighton Disc Launchers. probably a siege weapon like a giant crossbow that fires discs.

70311 Chaos Catapult. Evil guys version of the above

70313 Moltor's Lava Launcher. Moltor could be a Dwarf- possibly building steam punk creations that fire Lava.

70312 Lance's Robo Horse .. Lance obviously a Knight who possibly rides a clockwork/steam punk robotic horse?

70315 Clay's Blade Cruiser. Hopefully its a chariot and Clay is a Barbarian type figure that uses swords.

70316 Jestro's Companions of Darkness. Jestro probably and evil jester. Doesn't seem like a main badguy but maybe one of the deputies. Comes with a bunch of foot soldiers.

I'm not sure what the ulimate part means but hopefully its just the figures single packed with lots of equipment and weapons.

70330 Ultimate Clay- Barbarian hero

70331 Ultimate Macy- The female warrior/Valkyrie type character.

70332 Ultimate Aaron - possibly a wizard

70333 Ultimate Robin- Possibly a version of Robin Hood

70334 Ultimate Monster Masher - Masher a large troll like evil guy.

70335 Ultimate Lavaria- Just a guess but could be a female villain

This is all just speculation but its the kind of sets I'm hoping they are. If we have to have a revised version of the Jelly Bean knights hopefully they will use the new colours so we have Robin in Dark Green, others in Dark blue, dark red.

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I apologize if my original point wasn't clear. However, your response pretty much proves the point I was trying to make:

The point being...you shouldn't dismiss his rumor as a bust, as the details are open to a certain degree of interpretation. At this point, people still aren't even sure what to make of the details... Is it Castle? Is it Sci-fi? Is it Steam-punk? Is it "Action"? Is it some mix of them? Imagine trying to describe that 6+ months ago when there was even less information to go off of. We'll have to wait and see for confirmation one way or the other, but my opinion is that his original source has yet to be debunked, but it's rather just a circumstance of interpreting things differently.

Well to be fully honest, Robo horse sounds nothing liek Classic Castle era from history so to me thats good enough understanding of how it will be. The most i can take from sci-fi or fantasy in castle theme is what naturally (from books and movies) goes with it (Dragons, Wizards, and Tolkien type of Dwarfs/Elves/Orcs and maybe to a degree a necromancer rising an army of skeletons) Anything beyond that and its ''too much'' for me atleast, to call it castle theme, maybe another theme with castle elements.

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Well to be fully honest, Robo horse sounds nothing liek Classic Castle era from history so to me thats good enough understanding of how it will be. The most i can take from sci-fi or fantasy in castle theme is what naturally (from books and movies) goes with it (Dragons, Wizards, and Tolkien type of Dwarfs/Elves/Orcs and maybe to a degree a necromancer rising an army of skeletons) Anything beyond that and its ''too much'' for me atleast, to call it castle theme, maybe another theme with castle elements.

I might have misunderstood your comment but that isn't Sci-Fi though (Dwarves/Elves/Orcs/Goblins/Dragons/Magic etc) that's to me the definition of (Medieval) Fantasy. Well unless you were to see Orcs and whatnot as Aliens (like Warhammer 40000).

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I might have misunderstood your comment but that isn't Sci-Fi though (Dwarves/Elves/Orcs/Goblins/Dragons/Magic etc) that's to me the definition of (Medieval) Fantasy. Well unless you were to see Orcs and whatnot as Aliens (like Warhammer 40000).

Yes, I part sci-fi and fantasy on 2 ways, 1 way is having Elves, dwarves, Orcs, Trolls, Wizards and Dragons, the other is having flying ships on baloons, robo horses, mechano or steampunk variants of movable vehicles.....

first is acceptable and integrated in medieval setting, second is (to me atleast) outlandish and/or unnatural

And obviously the Kingdoms type of theme was nearly perfect, in terms of design, sets and figures, it was only a wizard from chess that was not regular, Kingdoms was a perfect theme and setting all it needed was a third outlaw/forestmen type of faction and more civilian and different war sets, not the typical, Castle-outpost-carriage stuff always.....

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Are we certain that Nexo Knights aren't just a new action theme and not the new Castle theme? I get there are many resources put into Nexo Knights but based on what Brick Jagger said could we not have two 'Castle' themes? One that is Fantasy Era 2 and the other based on KK2 but for action?

I'm not sure what the ulimate part means but hopefully its just the figures single packed with lots of equipment and weapons.

70330 Ultimate Clay- Barbarian hero

70331 Ultimate Macy- The female warrior/Valkyrie type character.

70332 Ultimate Aaron - possibly a wizard

70333 Ultimate Robin- Possibly a version of Robin Hood

70334 Ultimate Monster Masher - Masher a large troll like evil guy.

70335 Ultimate Lavaria- Just a guess but could be a female villain

I am thinking these could be constraction figures. Similar to the new Star Wars line and the old Super Heroes line.

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Do some digging on the net, TV series is talked about a bit, the replacement for Chima which was also an odd-ball animal meets advanced technology meets Aztec style world.

Perhaps it's fusion building of Roman and Greek engineering into the medieval world ?

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I am thinking these could be constraction figures. Similar to the new Star Wars line and the old Super Heroes line.

If I recall correctly, the "Ultimate" figures were priced at around $10. Too cheap to be Constraction (unless they decide to make $10 sets. Bear in mind the Chima and Star Wars sets were no less than $15-ish, if that's anything to go by).

I figure that the "Ultimates" are more like the Legend Beasts except actual characters and not animals. Think minifigure with Exo-armor that looks like a knight.

Which I really hope is the case because that sounds awesome. And that could probably be the "Spinjitzu" or "Chi Power" of the line: something that enhances the characters' power. This time around it'd be exo-suits.

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Well to be fully honest, Robo horse sounds nothing liek Classic Castle era from history so to me thats good enough understanding of how it will be. The most i can take from sci-fi or fantasy in castle theme is what naturally (from books and movies) goes with it (Dragons, Wizards, and Tolkien type of Dwarfs/Elves/Orcs and maybe to a degree a necromancer rising an army of skeletons) Anything beyond that and its ''too much'' for me atleast, to call it castle theme, maybe another theme with castle elements.

I'm sure I'm sounding like a broken record, but this statement even further proves my point. Interpretation has a big part to do with, as well as expectation. Lego "Castle" means a lot of things to different people. You are saying that Castle to you isn't really "Castle" unless it is Classic Castle. Kingdoms being an ideal style in your mind. Fair enough.

Regarding what "naturally" goes with it, it depends on what sort of medieval setting we are looking at. Are we going for a strict historical medieval setting? More of a fantasy medieval setting? While Tolkien is obviously one of the biggest inspirations today for medieval fantasy, he's certainly not the only authority. Dungeons and Dragons, while inspired largely from Tolkien, has become a MASSIVE authority on medieval fantasy, and has introduced many more concepts that are now accepted as "natural" in the genre. It's not odd to see archaic steam airships or dwarven engineers in medieval fantasy, for instance.

While I do like the style of the late 80s/early 90's stuff, as well as Kingdoms...I prefer more fantasy in my medieval settings...more of that Dungeons and Dragons style fantasy. I don't personally like lots of sci-fi in my medieval fantasy (stuff like robots and lasers)...but I'm definitely ok with knights, wizards, archaic airships, castles, steam engineers and the like being in the same setting, and still thinking of it as "Castle".

I draw the line when horses are dropped for motor-cycle like vehicles that are supposed to look like they were visually inspired by horses. Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past Lego to do something like that...

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I'm sure I'm sounding like a broken record, but this statement even further proves my point. Interpretation has a big part to do with, as well as expectation. Lego "Castle" means a lot of things to different people. You are saying that Castle to you isn't really "Castle" unless it is Classic Castle. Kingdoms being an ideal style in your mind. Fair enough.

Regarding what "naturally" goes with it, it depends on what sort of medieval setting we are looking at. Are we going for a strict historical medieval setting? More of a fantasy medieval setting? While Tolkien is obviously one of the biggest inspirations today for medieval fantasy, he's certainly not the only authority. Dungeons and Dragons, while inspired largely from Tolkien, has become a MASSIVE authority on medieval fantasy, and has introduced many more concepts that are now accepted as "natural" in the genre. It's not odd to see archaic steam airships or dwarven engineers in medieval fantasy, for instance.

While I do like the style of the late 80s/early 90's stuff, as well as Kingdoms...I prefer more fantasy in my medieval settings...more of that Dungeons and Dragons style fantasy. I don't personally like lots of sci-fi in my medieval fantasy (stuff like robots and lasers)...but I'm definitely ok with knights, wizards, archaic airships, castles, steam engineers and the like being in the same setting, and still thinking of it as "Castle".

I draw the line when horses are dropped for motor-cycle like vehicles that are supposed to look like they were visually inspired by horses. Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past Lego to do something like that...

Ofc its 99% in interpretation. While I can take sci-fi elements in terms of creatures (Dragons, Orcs, Goblins, etc.) Its really really really hard for me to swallow sci-fi buildings and vehicles, those absolutely must feel like medieval or like something an old race without Robotic technology could build. Dungeons and dragons is fine, atleast what i know of. The only time i ''tolerated'' sci-fi in terms of technology was WOW, because to my ideas it was incorporated good, in terms of Gnomes and their technology.

To cut it short, I think Kingdoms design (quality) and Tolkien imagination combined would make a perfect ''classic'' Castle theme, that probably majority of Castle fans (AFOLs) would adore. Its my personal opinion, and surely biased, but I think not far off.

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I keep seeing the equating with WoW, Tolkien and D&D, but Masters of the Universe is the closest thing from the information gleaned. That 80's show had castles, magic and sci-fi, all on an alien world. This theme being in that vein, while it may not appeal to the purist castle crowd, should be great for kids.

The inclusion of a robot horse gives me hope that I might be able to build my vision of The Warlock In Spite Of Himself, a great sci-fi novel that spawned a whole host of others. Swords and future science, makes me happy.

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I like my fantasy pretty classic (Tolkien, Greyhawk D&D, Arthurian, Greek mythology etc). This line sounds too scifi-ish for my taste. If it is, I'll probably only get a few parts on the secondary market and none of the sets.

Looking on the bright side, it'll probably save me a few bob.

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