BrickJagger Posted August 17, 2015 Author Posted August 17, 2015 Do we have any other information on this line besides the logo and genre? We have the set list and German prices, as well as character names. We also know that there will be at least two books to go along with this theme, and I would bank on a TV show. Quote
thetang22 Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Do we have any other information on this line besides the logo and genre? Ironically, the genre isn't even completely clear just yet. It's been rumored to be Castle, Space, Steampunk, Action...or some mix between some or all of that stuff. Until we see more stuff, it's hard to definitively say what it will be at this point. Quote
Nekchir Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 We have the set list and German prices, as well as character names. We also know that there will be at least two books to go along with this theme, and I would bank on a TV show. Awesome. Can you link me to the info? Ironically, the genre isn't even completely clear just yet. It's been rumored to be Castle, Space, Steampunk, Action...or some mix between some or all of that stuff. Until we see more stuff, it's hard to definitively say what it will be at this point. Over-stuffed. Quote
BrickJagger Posted August 17, 2015 Author Posted August 17, 2015 Awesome. Can you link me to the info? Over-stuffed. It's in this thread, somewhere around page 50. Quote
Brandysnaps92 Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Im slightly more optimistic after the logo came out, maybe that's just the designer in me appreciating good design though. While it won't be classic or the fantasy castle of old (and which someday I hope will return because it was awesome) I feel like it will be a good and worthwhile chapter in the overall castle theme. Bringing sci-fi fans and castle fans together in a way... ...Well I hope it will Can't wait till pictures, or just any further details really Quote
Darth Punk Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Sir Buck Rogers and the 25th century Knights. Quote
Blakstone Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 BrickJagger, since you are the original poster, it would be nice if you can update the first post with the logo and the information we have from the German site. Quote
BrickJagger Posted August 17, 2015 Author Posted August 17, 2015 BrickJagger, since you are the original poster, it would be nice if you can update the first post with the logo and the information we have from the German site. Done. Couldn't figure out how to have to logo directly appear on the thread, so I linked it. Quote
Brandysnaps92 Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Not sure if this has been raised or not, or if it belongs in this thread, but for the story/setting, it would be great if it was as though technology has evolved but the methods of battle and building had not, I guess the general idea of steampunk, but it would mean that we could get still awesome looking castles with a touch of modern elements, much in the style of lego universe. It could also mean that maybe, just maybe they could bring in some classic factions that have survived wars and progressed through time, e.g. modern/sci-fi/steampunk looking black falcons or dragon knights etc. I guess it's not likely and that Lego will probably create new factions but is a possible idea for the story/setting. That way it is still historical in being a castle theme but set in the future from the classic/fantasy days. There's my 2 cents Quote
TheLegoDr Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 I'm liking what I am seeing so far. I have some high hopes for this theme. I love castle, and I've been more into sci-fi lately, so a mix might be right up my alley. But I'll wait and see. Quote
SirBlake Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Im slightly more optimistic after the logo came out, maybe that's just the designer in me appreciating good design though. The designer in me has some problems with it. Specifically, it's that the letter forms were clearly designed at the same scale, and then "KNIGHTS" was just shrunk down, leaving the little artifacts (like the notches in lower left of the K) in the type at roughly 75% scale relative to "NEXO". It would be better if those artifacts remained the same scale so it didn't seem like an afterthought. Edit: Also, the lighting on the bevel (really, a bevel?) is inconsistent. It seems to be mostly lit from the bottom left (which is weird), but it varies all over the place. If one of my designers did that to a logo we'd have to have a talk. Edit #2: And a drop shadow. For crying out loud, why in the hell does it need a drop shadow? It doesn't even respond like it's an effect of lighting or position, just a grey glow around it. Face palm. Edited August 17, 2015 by SirBlake Quote
8BrickMario Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Can someone please rename this thread to "Nexo Knights 2016" now that we know the name? Quote
thetang22 Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) @Brickjagger - to get the pic to show, you need to edit your post and choose advanced options if you don't see all the extra editing options by default. Then, you'll see the icon of a white square with a tiny tree in it. That is the picture link button. You'll want to paste the location of the image in the pic button popup. To get the actual address of the picture, you'll need to right click on the image of the logo and click "View Image". The address is what you see at the top of the page after clicking View Image. Does that make sense? For instance, the location of the logo is: http://i.imgur.com/Q61GYii.png The designer in me has some problems with it. Specifically, it's that the letter forms were clearly designed at the same scale, and then "KNIGHTS" was just shrunk down, leaving the little artifacts (like the notches in lower left of the K) in the type at roughly 75% scale relative to "NEXO". It would be better if those artifacts remained the same scale so it didn't seem like an afterthought. Edit: Also, the lighting on the bevel (really, a bevel?) is inconsistent. It seems to be mostly lit from the bottom left (which is weird), but it varies all over the place. If one of my designers did that to a logo we'd have to have a talk. Edit #2: And a drop shadow. For crying out loud, why in the hell does it need a drop shadow? It doesn't even respond like it's an effect of lighting or position, just a grey glow around it. Face palm. As a fellow designer, I'll field some of those concerns. - I can agree with your assessment about the afterthought of the scale between Knight and Nexo. They should have scaled it before adding the notches so the details were a comparable size. - Regarding the bevel - I'm not sure what your concern is with there being a bevel. There is a time and place for a bevel, and personally, I think it was called for this instance. - Drop Shadow - it's actually an "Outer Glow". It needed something...otherwise there wouldn't be nearly enough contrast between the logo and a white background. Edited August 17, 2015 by thetang22 Quote
SirBlake Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Fair points. There is indeed a time and place for a bevel. That said, there is no excuse for the terrible treatment of lighting with regard to the bevel. For the glow, a black or grey glow violates the physical definition of a glow. Therefore, it's interpreted as a shadow. Lastly, I agree that the logo needs it for legibility, which highlights my overriding point: "look ma, I can use photoshop" band aids for poor design. Quote
Brandysnaps92 Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 The designer in me has some problems with it. Specifically, it's that the letter forms were clearly designed at the same scale, and then "KNIGHTS" was just shrunk down, leaving the little artifacts (like the notches in lower left of the K) in the type at roughly 75% scale relative to "NEXO". It would be better if those artifacts remained the same scale so it didn't seem like an afterthought. Edit: Also, the lighting on the bevel (really, a bevel?) is inconsistent. It seems to be mostly lit from the bottom left (which is weird), but it varies all over the place. If one of my designers did that to a logo we'd have to have a talk. Edit #2: And a drop shadow. For crying out loud, why in the hell does it need a drop shadow? It doesn't even respond like it's an effect of lighting or position, just a grey glow around it. Face palm. As a fellow designer, I'll field some of those concerns. - I can agree with your assessment about the afterthought of the scale between Knight and Nexo. They should have scaled it before adding the notches so the details were a comparable size. - Regarding the bevel - I'm not sure what your concern is with there being a bevel. There is a time and place for a bevel, and personally, I think it was called for this instance. - Drop Shadow - it's actually an "Outer Glow". It needed something...otherwise there wouldn't be nearly enough contrast between the logo and a white background. I hear you SirBlake and thetang22 I think it depends on how you look at the logo and what the context of the logo will be, who knows what it will be like on promotional material, boxes and the rumoured TV show. It looks like it is meant to be made out of some sort of metal material. So when it is sitting just on white, while it works, it won't have the same effect that it would have when on its intended environment/surrounds/background. - For the scale between knights and nexo and in particular the scale of the artifacts (studs, whatever they are) on the lettering, I like that they are different sizes, if they were the same size on knights as they were on nexo they would look almost oversize, but if nexo had smaller artifacts then they would look to small. I think when you have two objects and they both are the same style but different sizes then the design should adapt appropriately, eg. smaller object sometimes equals smaller details, especially if you imagine them as being a physical object. However it does look like they have created a typeface then scaled but, I think it still works. -As for the lighting and reflection on the bevel, I think it will become clearer once we see the logo in context, If it is sitting on a metal like background then of course light would be reflecting of that background and the logo itself creating a seemingly multi direction light source. Also metal can do some funky things with light -I agree its definitely an outer glow effect rather than drop shadow effect, solely there to separate it from the background of whatever it ends up on(may not end up being that obvious.) Again, I don't think white is the intended background Do we know if this is the final logo or a final concept/development of it? Quote
BrickJagger Posted August 17, 2015 Author Posted August 17, 2015 Guys, it's a logo. So what? Ssssh, "Bevels" are very important! Quote
SirBlake Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Brandy, I fundamentally disagree with all of your points. A good logo must function in just about any context, especially white. That said, I am happy to agree to disagree. Heck, I'm having fun having a design discussion. :-) Quote
Brandysnaps92 Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Guys, it's a logo. So what? It's the first visual info/details we have on this theme. Bit excited Can't wait for more images and details to come Quote
SirBlake Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Guys, it's a logo. So what? Just because it isn't important to you doesn't mean it isn't important. Quote
just2good Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Guys, it's a logo. So what? You're the one who used your skills to find it or sources or whatever, you tell us why it's important. We don't need to tell you why- you know it's a big deal. Do you want some extra reassurance that you found something important? A little snarky if you ask me. Edited August 17, 2015 by just2good Quote
BrickJagger Posted August 17, 2015 Author Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) @thetang22: Thanks for the helpful tutorial. I'll try to remember that. Post edited. @J2G: Big misunderstanding there. He was commenting on the above discussion on the positioning of "Bevels" and whatnot. Edited August 17, 2015 by BrickJagger Quote
greenalfonzo Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Nexo Knights? More like Techno Knights. Quote
Robert8 Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Interesting logo... It reminds me of the KK2 logo It seems it will be more Sci-fi than Castle, but there is definitely a Castle vibe there About the above discussion, I'm only going to say: everyone has an opinion and it's ok to share it Quote
DaleDVM Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 I am not trying to be bombastic or a troll in any way. I am happy for those who will enjoy a theme like this. That being said, mere words cannot express my level of disappointment. This is the worst possible outcome for my needs. It may be that we may get a few new molds and even a few attractive figures. However, the heraldry is already looking like it is too futuristic to be of any use for historic castle builders. My guess is the weapons, armor, accessories, and colors will be too outlandish as well. I hope I am wrong! The worst part of all is the Nexo Knights may be very successful. With a TV show, books, and advertising campaign it is more likely than not. If it is a hit, this theme could kill the castle theme for the foreseeable future. Civilian figures, animals, realistic weapons, armor, accessories and other useful parts are likely to be scarce, if found at all in these sets. I have literally zero expectations at this point. When I was told so many months ago that something big was happening in castle, I sure didn't expect this. I would imagine the store manager that told me also had no idea this was going to be an action theme aimed at young children. The last couple of years has been tough as a castle collector. The near future looks bad. I guess I will save a lot of money and I will be hitting up bricklink a lot more. Quote
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