Fugazi Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Lots to catch up on today... but it's a good thing, there's more to work with. I don't know most of you treefolk all that well, but some I know slightly better, and one in particular is acting rather oddly in my humble opinion. Bruce, I have a few questions for you. I get what you're saying, although it looks like you're trying a little too hard to be townie here. At that point, there wasn't much to go on, but I had gotten a bad vibe from William. There's no real explanation and I think he's town now, but I had (and still have) an oakread on Simon, so I figured it'd be good to discuss it with him. Plus, nobody can say I was trying to stifle discussion. I brought forward my other suspicion, Catalina. So after one or who pages of idle conversation, you already had gotten a bad vibe from William, and a good one from Simon? I can understand you wanting to get in touch with trees, build a network and dig for information, but your excuse for contacting Simon doesn't hold water. You're not a sapling, why the shaky alibi? If I'm making an attempt to look proactive and town, give me a Day or two to continue to. If I'm not actually an Oak, it'll become pretty apparent pretty fast. I plan on playing a very strong, aggressive Oak game; that's not something you can fake very convincingly. You're planning on playing a strong, aggressive game? Somehow that's something a Maple would focus on, trying to appear Oaky by being being unexpectedly active. I can't imagine an Oak spending much time thinking about how they want others to see them during this situation. Nothing in particular; it was a vibe. Let's lynch Alastair today. Isn't voting up? Again, it was nothing in particular. Keep in mind that I'm the tree with the gut feelings. Why can't we lynch two trees at once? Life is suffering. Alastair being satisfied with hazel showing up to just say "hey I'm here, I'll post again in a few days" takes the cake. I'm itching to vote Alastair, but Berty has been mega scummy - and he must be vanilla if he's town, so it's a safe lynch if by some stroke of misfortune he flips town. Why must we choose?? Then there's this. You seem awfully satisfied with your vote and sure of yourself. You're not only being aggressive, you're also being casual and careless. You are casting votes left and right based on iffy evidence and still you appear convinced that this will lead us to a Maple lynch. No one can be so sure of a Day one vote, unless a major slip happens. I don't think anything happened today that would justify such a carefree attitude. You're not new at this Bruce, you know how Day 1 usually turns out, despite all the "conclusive evidence". I don't think you really care about us Oaks, so prove me otherwise. Vote: Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) correction: *one or two pages*
Tamamono Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I've been the strongest Oak here today. If for some reason you choose to view my uprooting the Maples as scummy, that's a choice you're allowed to make.
Lego Spy Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Right now, the current evidence is tipping me toward Alastair, but I get this bad feeling that if I do vote for him I'm going to get reactions somewhere along the lines of "Bandwagonre! Mapl!" pretty much instantaneously. I also agree that calling people out as maple-y because they either haven't posted much, haven't posted anything "useful", or fluffy is kind of ridiculous. I think I should add that I intended to put "on day one" at the end of that statement.
jimmynick Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 What's a Mapl? Why are you afraid of looking like you're on a bandwagon? To be honest, there are several votes for Alastair at this point, and I have given one of them, but I am perfectly comfortable with it because Alastair is wishy-washy in taking BS from Hazel and so on. On that note, I might, I'm still deciding who is the best candidate. It is tempting as it would put a bit of pressure off of myself, but I would rather help find a maple than to save my own skin. What is this? You would rather find a maple than save your own skin? You're giving up? Do you mean to say you'd gladly vote for Hazel again for the sake of voting rather than for actually believing she's a maple? And, to be perfectly honest, your single vote for Hazel would do nothing to take pressure off yourself since you have several votes against you and you've already demonstrated that your opinion flaps around in the breeze more easily than the underwear you see dangling off trees when you ride ski lifts.
Lego Spy Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 What's a Mapl? Part of my accurate representation. Why are you afraid of looking like you're on a bandwagon? To be honest, there are several votes for Alastair at this point, and I have given one of them, but I am perfectly comfortable with it because Alastair is wishy-washy in taking BS from Hazel and so on. Aw, what the heck. Vote: Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon)
Tamamono Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Chester's way too worried about bandwagoning.
Lego Spy Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Chester's way too worried about bandwagoning.
Hinckley Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 So after one or who pages of idle conversation, correction: *one or two pages* You can drop the "or two" part. It was one. You've made a really good point. While the contact has been suspicious, it wasn't definite. As I've said, Bruce contacts me on Day One in every game we play, whatever that means, since IMHOTEP. But, what really bugs me is that he hasn't shown any suspicion to me at all. I know I'm not a Maple but I'm the only one who should know that. Aren't I worthy of at least a little suspicion? I don't think his behavior so far is too far outside of his normal game play, but that certainly doesn't exonerate him. I've been the strongest Oak here today. If for some reason you choose to view my uprooting the Maples as scummy, that's a choice you're allowed to make. It's really hard to hear someone say this. Claiming to be the strongest Oak of the day can be over-confident or Scummy. You've played both ways. You've said to me in private that you think Alastair and Berty are definitely Scum. What about me? Why have you got such a strong Oak read on me? I've gotten zero scrutiny from you. Absolute zero.
badboytje88 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I have to admit that I find it terribly difficult to pick a tree to have cut down. I've been catching up with what has been going on and one thing just bugs me. Hazel blaming her inactivity on the intreenet. Nowadays there are plenty ways to gain access to the web. At home, at work during your break, on your phone while taking a dump, heck when you buy a big mac or a pumpkin spice latte you'll get free wifi. So I... Vote: Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath)[/b] Vote: Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath)
fhomess Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 If Bruce Spruce hadn't just changed his vote to Alister Pear, I might have. As it is, this whole thing with Alister Pear and Hazel Hazelnut, Betty Birch and Bobby Beech has me trying to decide who is the most maple treeish and deserving of my vote. This is from a way back, but... what? Your vote is based on what Bruce does? Are you trying to distance yourself from him for some reason? Do you just dislike him and want to do whatever he doesn't do? And Chester, you gotta admit, you said it yourself: Right now, the current evidence is tipping me toward Alastair, but I get this bad feeling that if I do vote for him I'm going to get reactions somewhere along the lines of "Bandwagonre! Mapl!" pretty much instantaneously. It sounds like you ARE more worried about how you look to the rest of us than doing what you think is right. Then when someone called you out on it, you do it after all. If you're an oak, you have nothing to worry about if you're really trying to uproot some maples. You really only have to worry about how you look to people when you're trying to hide. If you can't justify your vote, you should probably hold out. I have to admit that I find it terribly difficult to pick a tree to have cut down. I've been catching up with what has been going on and one thing just bugs me. Hazel blaming her inactivity on the intreenet. Nowadays there are plenty ways to gain access to the web. At home, at work during your break, on your phone while taking a dump, heck when you buy a big mac or a pumpkin spice latte you'll get free wifi. So I... Vote: Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath)[/b] Vote: Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) Really? After Hazel's non-committal to being helpful at all and threatening to vote randomly you call her out because you don't believe her story about the intreenet? That's the least scummy thing about her!
badboytje88 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Well that was the last drop. She was trying to fly under the radar and when cought blames the internet. That's just bad...
Piratedave84 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Quite a lot was said whilst I was gone; based on the conversation I am more suspicious of: Larry -> Why did you feel it was necessary for you to step in and defend 2 peers when you clearly had no reason to? Alastair -> Let's face it, Hazel's justification was $hit and you know it; there was no reason for you to unvote and now, once under scrutiny you may re-vote for her ... what? Hazel -> Random vote, really? You contributed next to nothing since this whole thing started and used someone else's conclusion to justify your vote. Now, these 3 are as likely as anybody else to be Maple but my heart wants to vote Hazel to spare us the nonsense later in this situation, my gut tells me to vote for Larry seeing that defending people we know nothing of is really not an Oak-y thing to do, and finally my head tells me to vote for Alastair since his lynch may give us more insight on his main detractors. I will Vote: Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon)
Zepher Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I've been the strongest Oak here today. If for some reason you choose to view my uprooting the Maples as scummy, that's a choice you're allowed to make. I believe I'm the oakiest oak! So you can be the strongest oak today, but not the oakiest. This is a hard decision! I feel bad voting for any of my fellow trees to be chopped down - why can't we all just enjoy the sun together!? But it must be done. But, since a vote must be made! Vote: Bobby Beech (Brickelodeon) because of this: Excuse me, but I am hardly in "deep s**t". Bruce thinks I'm maple-y, but only because he doesn't understand what I'm saying. I never said I thought he was a maple, I just said that I would like to know who the person was who was PMing all of that stuff. I'm not even going back on anything I said before. You are trying to make me look maple-y without me actually being maple-y. I concur! Bring Alejandro into the light. He/she is acting very suspicious, and I would like to know his/her identity in case we don't have anything left to go on in later days. If you never thought he was a maple, then why would you vote for him at the end of the day, even if nothing else came up?
StickFig Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Vote: Bobby Beech (Brickelodeon) What? Alastair Pear, played by Brickelodeon Bobby Beech, played by Lord Duvors Who do you mean? Quick count: Penalty votes Bobby Beech (Lord Duvors) - 5 Scaevola votes Berty Birch (Dragonfire) - 1 Scubacarrot votes Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) - 1 jluck votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) -1 Berty Birch (Dragonfire) votes Agnes Cyprus (JackJonesPaw) - 1 Brickelodeon votes Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) - 1 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) votes Berty (Dragonfire) - 2 jluck votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 1 Agnes Cyprus (JackJonesPaw) votes Berty (Dragonfire) - 3 Hinckley votes Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) - 1 Bob votes Adelaide Apple (TinyPiesRUs) - 1 Vicky Hickory (StickFig) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 1 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) unvotes Berty Birch (Dragonfire) - 2 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 2 Scaevola unvotes Berty Birch (Dragonfire) - 1 Scaevola votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 3 Bobby Beech (Lord Duvors) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 4 Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) votes Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) - 2 jamesn votes Alastair Pair (Brickelodeon) - 5 Fugazi votes Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) - 2 Lego Spy votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 6 badboytje88 votes Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) - 2 Piratedave84 votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 7 Nash Ash (Zepher) attempts to vote and fails.
Zepher Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 My mistake! Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) All this lovely sunlight is apparently scrambling all the lovely names of you lovely trees in my head! Hickory, Simon, Alastair, Bobby.
Walter Kovacs Posted January 29, 2015 Author Posted January 29, 2015 Voting Update: Alistair Pear - 7 (StickFig, Tamamono, Scaevola, Jamesn, Lord Duvors, Lego Spy, PirateDave84, Zepher) Bobby Beech - 5 (Penalty, Penalty, Penalty, Penalty, Penalty) Bruce Spruce - 2 (Scubacarrot, Fugazi) Larry Larch - 2 (Hinckley, Goliath) Agnes Cyprus - 1 (Dragonfire) Berty Birch - 1 (JackJonespaw) Adelaide Apple - 1 (Bob) Catarina Dogwood - 1 (jluck) Hazel Hazelnut - 1 (badboytje88) There have been many 'sloppy' votes thus far in the day. Pay attention to your formatting! There are 31 hours left in Day 1. It takes 13 votes to lynch.
MagPiesRUs Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Maybe for the same reason you chose to contact me privately and tell me you thought Alejandro and the other people contacting me were Scummy. Sometimes it helps to see what you can get out of people in privacy and anonymity. But Alejandro revealed himself without me needing to and I got to see how William and Bruce reacted to the discussion of Bruce's suspicion. If I had just come out and said "Bruce thinks William is Scummy" I wouldn't had a chance to see how William reacted to my contacting him privately nor would I see if it made Bruce nervous that I was contacting William or that it was being discussed publicly after William revealed the communication in the day thread. So, then last ask you the same question. Why did you come to me privately and tell me you thought Alejandro and the other people contacting me on Day One were Scummy. What did you hope to gain by telling me that in private and not saying it to everyone in public. And now what are you baffled about my behavior? Can you be more specific? Fair enough. I was getting the impression you were dragging the Alejandro business out a little too much, but looking back it wasn't as bad as I thought. Since you've mentioned that those who contacted you do this all the time, I'm more comfortable about them, but I can only really go off of your own private experiences with them. I sent you a message just to get a better read on you, and also to make a joke. Aw, what the heck. Vote: Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) Bandwagoner! Maple! But seriously, it's good that you've decided to vote for the person you suspect the most. I see no reason why you should be concerned about how people will perceive your vote, as long as you believe it's the right choice to make.
Tamamono Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 You can drop the "or two" part. It was one. You've made a really good point. While the contact has been suspicious, it wasn't definite. As I've said, Bruce contacts me on Day One in every game we play, whatever that means, since IMHOTEP. But, what really bugs me is that he hasn't shown any suspicion to me at all. I know I'm not a Maple but I'm the only one who should know that. Aren't I worthy of at least a little suspicion? I don't think his behavior so far is too far outside of his normal game play, but that certainly doesn't exonerate him. It's really hard to hear someone say this. Claiming to be the strongest Oak of the day can be over-confident or Scummy. You've played both ways. You've said to me in private that you think Alastair and Berty are definitely Scum. What about me? Why have you got such a strong Oak read on me? I've gotten zero scrutiny from you. Absolute zero. The way you handled me/William was town, and you've done nothing to deserve scrutiny at this point. My reads, as always, are subject to change as the Day goes on. Excuse me, as the *game goes on. Unless you claim scum today or something.
Lady K Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Can you explain this a bit further? I could always vote for you, if you wish. As far as I'm concerned, you could be a good lynch for day one for simply saying that when no progress has been made. Do you really need further explanation? Random voting is not ok! Oaks would not do that to each other. And your second sentence makes no sense what so ever. How could I be a good lynch for day 1 for simply saying that your random voting is maple tree behavior 'when no progress has been made' ? What progress would need to be made for it be ok for me to say that? As much as I want to, it's hard to determine a good candidate when it's day one and everyone has been posting nonsense? Besides, me being me, I seem to get the boot no matter who I vote for... But I will say the one person who has stood out to me was Larry. Simon pointed out that Larry defended two people, Bobby and Berty, for no reason. With my mindset, I find that rather odd, like Larry might be trying to defend those he may be in cahoots with? I think he's experienced enough to know to not do that but on day one, why? There are quite a few questions to be answered on that but I don't see the point in him defending people, if he's an Oak, that he doesn't know an Oak from a Maple or he is simple a Maple defending his Maple syrup producing buddies. Vote: Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) Mmmmm, I feel quite satisfied with my vote. It's hard to determine a good candidate when everyone is posting nonsense..., but one person has stood out to you..., and then you use someone else's reasons to justify a vote you feel quite satisfied with? Would you care to clarify before I decide that you are actually the best tree sacrifice for the day?
Lady K Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Lassie Sassafras, allow me to clarify on my comment you questioned about Bruce. Alistair Pear was starting to stand out above the other three that I had mentioned and I was about to cast a vote for him, when Bruce did. It would have been a quick and rash vote for me since I was still weighing the others equally. I made the comment I did so that Alistair would no he was not off my radar. Bruce's vote caused me to pause and think carefully about my vote vs casting quickly. Day one is always a shot in the dark. I may still yet cast my vote in Alistair Pear's direction, however two others are now coming under suspicion as well. I want to make the best possible.
jimmynick Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Day one is always a shot in the dark. I beg to disagree; we have plenty of things to work with right now. Hazel threatening to vote for a random person and hiding behind a purported bad connection, Alastair almost pretending to scrutinize Hazel. There's also Chester Chestnut who is concerned about looking like he's on a bandwagon. Other people are suspicious of Berty Birch for thinking all Oaks are Garden Variety. There was the Alejandro discussion as well. There's so much going around that to say "well, shucks, it's Day One so we can't reasonably be expected to do anything useful" sounds like a cop-out, and it sounds like you don't actually want to get anything done today.
Yzalirk Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 It's hard to determine a good candidate when everyone is posting nonsense..., but one person has stood out to you..., and then you use someone else's reasons to justify a vote you feel quite satisfied with? Would you care to clarify before I decide that you are actually the best tree sacrifice for the day? That's quite the threat there, Catarina. I can say that I don't have the most votes against me so there's that, for starters. Let's see, what else... OH, what makes you think that you can decide for everyone else? That's what it looks like to me. But hey, if I do get chopped down over the night, at least you'd be a great suspect then. For now, I will gladly engrave that on my bark. Besides, you've done the very same thing before, for the record. And for those who are doubting my claim on not having my internet working, you can ask Comcast. They shut it down for a few hours then I had to go out and when I got back, that is when I made my second post. I don't think I need to explain it more.
Brickelodeon Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Ah, I see that I have acquired even more votes since I went into dormancy. What is this? You would rather find a maple than save your own skin? You're giving up? Do you mean to say you'd gladly vote for Hazel again for the sake of voting rather than for actually believing she's a maple? And, to be perfectly honest, your single vote for Hazel would do nothing to take pressure off yourself since you have several votes against you and you've already demonstrated that your opinion flaps around in the breeze more easily than the underwear you see dangling off trees when you ride ski lifts. You pretty much just said the opposite of what is really true. I'm not giving up, I'm just trusting in the brains of logical people to realize that voting for me is dumb. The only "evidence" against me is that people thought I was okay with Hazel throwing out a random vote, which I'm not okay with. I said I might vote for Hazel if I think she is the best candidate, but right now I'm not quite sure. My opinion flaps in the breeze? What makes you say that? I've stuck with my defense the whole way through, nobody feels like listening right now. Think about it people, my initial response to Hazel's bandwagoning pinged you as maple-y, but I've said multiple times that I don't like it. I removed me vote from Hazel before I saw that she was going to randomly vote. If you never thought he was a maple, then why would you vote for him at the end of the day, even if nothing else came up? You need to read what I said. I didn't say I would vote for him at the end of the day, I said we should keep it in mind for later days, in case nothing came up. Just because I say that I don't think someone is a maple, doesn't mean I won't change my mind after more evidence surfaces. Someone can seem maple-y without me thinking they are actually a maple.
Lady K Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 I beg to disagree; we have plenty of things to work with right now. Hazel threatening to vote for a random person and hiding behind a purported bad connection, Alastair almost pretending to scrutinize Hazel. There's also Chester Chestnut who is concerned about looking like he's on a bandwagon. Other people are suspicious of Berty Birch for thinking all Oaks are Garden Variety. There was the Alejandro discussion as well. There's so much going around that to say "well, shucks, it's Day One so we can't reasonably be expected to do anything useful" sounds like a cop-out, and it sounds like you don't actually want to get anything done today. Thats not what I meant, and you know it!
Piratedave84 Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 That's quite the threat there, Catarina. I can say that I don't have the most votes against me so there's that, for starters. Let's see, what else... OH, what makes you think that you can decide for everyone else? That's what it looks like to me. But hey, if I do get chopped down over the night, at least you'd be a great suspect then. For now, I will gladly engrave that on my bark. Besides, you've done the very same thing before, for the record. And for those who are doubting my claim on not having my internet working, you can ask Comcast. They shut it down for a few hours then I had to go out and when I got back, that is when I made my second post. I don't think I need to explain it more. What? 1) Just because you're not the vote leader does not mean you are not suspicious 2) No one doubted your claim about interwebz beign down; it's just that upon it's return online you still failed to say anything of value I have flashbacks of a previous life ....
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