Piratedave84 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Typical day one accusations/discussions so far; have we moved passed the "william is maple-y" thing or is this still on the table? As far as I concerned, this is the thing that struck me as the oddest; we only had a few comments made and there was already someone poking or trying to get a feel for what I presume was an attempt at setting up a lynch.
Scubacarrot Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 In response to the allegations against me, I'd just like to clarify that my post was meant to be a "fluff / banter" post teasing Zepher about his "Oakiest of Oaks" thing. I realise that it could well come across as fishing, and I didn't mean that at all. They're allegations already? Typical day one accusations/discussions so far; have we moved passed the "william is maple-y" thing or is this still on the table? Alejandro, who said I was maple-y, now claims I come off as oak-y.
Piratedave84 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Alejandro, who said I was maple-y, now claims I come off as oak-y. How oak-y of him to retract his statement like that!
jluck Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 In response to the allegations against me, I'd just like to clarify that my post was meant to be a "fluff / banter" post teasing Zepher about his "Oakiest of Oaks" thing. I realise that it could well come across as fishing, and I didn't mean that at all. On that subject, someone has contacted me in PM to "accuse" me of fishing... As for the number of scum question, I think it is likely that there are 4-6 scum and one Neutral, since Neutrals were mentioned in the rules. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think neutrals are always in the rules, regardless of if they exist. In a game this size, it's likely one exists, but the rule wording doesn't amount to much.
Scaevola Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 In response to the allegations against me, I'd just like to clarify that my post was meant to be a "fluff / banter" post teasing Zepher about his "Oakiest of Oaks" thing. I realise that it could well come across as fishing, and I didn't mean that at all. On that subject, someone has contacted me in PM to "accuse" me of fishing... As for the number of scum question, I think it is likely that there are 4-6 scum and one Neutral, since Neutrals were mentioned in the rules. Asking if a tree is a PR or Vanilla doesn't seem like banter to me.
Piratedave84 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think neutrals are always in the rules, regardless of if they exist. In a game this size, it's likely one exists, but the rule wording doesn't amount to much. There are better things to discuss at this point than the mechanics of the game; how do you feel about Berty's attempt at asserting a role? or about 'Alejandro' s comments regarding William.
jluck Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 There are better things to discuss at this point than the mechanics of the game; how do you feel about Berty's attempt at asserting a role? or about 'Alejandro' s comments regarding William. Do you mean Berty's attempt to 'ascertain' a role? From my perspective he hasn't asserted a role at all. If you meant ascertain, I think it's the type of stuff that makes everyone jumpy on day 1 but yawn on day 4. This whole Alejandro thing is throwing me a bit...maybe it was the way it was first revealed with all the "oak contacting an oak to ask about an oak" stuff, but why all the PMs? I literally trust none of you (that includes you Walter!) so if I'm going to make accusations I'll do it publicly. In addition, everything that's been PM'ed has subsequently been posted here anyway, which kinda spoils the secret, so I just don't really know what to do with it.
Lady K Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Well, good morning to all! And what a lovely sunny day it is. What a way to wake up than to find out that some of the male trees stayed up till all hours of the night (those in different time zones excluded) talking tree trash about the only female tree amongst them. I'm a female tree, in case you hadn't noticed, with all your male banter going on, so of course I'm fluffy. Day one is supposed to be fun and fluffy! And I do sleep, at night time, which I did. Now I will say that I find Waldorf Walnut and Bruce Spruce suspicious for what seems like trying to get rid of me. As they are the instigators of the tree trash talk about me.
MagPiesRUs Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I don't understand why we need to protect Alejandro's identity here. I see no reason why someone needs to remain anonymous simply because they claimed that someone else was suspicious in private. This is just complicating things and denying Alejandro the opportunity to explain him/herself.
jimmynick Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Asking if a tree is a PR or Vanilla doesn't seem like banter to me. I agree. I don't understand why we need to protect Alejandro's identity here. I see no reason why someone needs to remain anonymous simply because they claimed that someone else was suspicious in private. This is just complicating things and denying Alejandro the opportunity to explain him/herself. I know that Simon Persimmon usually keeps stories pseudonymous and close to his trunk - but it seems strange that Alejandro would want to be so secretive in accusing William Willow of mapley-ness when William had, until then, posted puns in the first page of the thread. As William said, drama is afoot aroot arrowroot.
Brickelodeon Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I concur! Bring Alejandro into the light. He/she is acting very suspicious, and I would like to know his/her identity in case we don't have anything left to go on in later days.
Zepher Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Does Alejandro not like the sun? Seems pretty weird to me! I like to do my accusing out in the open, like a normal oaky tree. Shady dealings are not my style, and to be honest I don't trust them! I don't want Hickory to reveal who Alejandro is, I'd really prefer that Alejandro just came out and told us like the friendly and honest tree I'm sure he is! And maybe explain the the heck was mapley on that first page!
Mencot Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Typical day one accusations/discussions so far; have we moved passed the "william is maple-y" thing or is this still on the table? Yes a typical day one but maybe a slight bit more fluffier then usual. Hey people have talked about pancakes and waffles. Everybody knows that pancakes are the best with strawberries and whippedcream, syrup is for icecream yea this is what I am talking about 6 pages of almost fluff and puns. But there has been some intresting things, the thing that caught my eyes (does trees have eyes, can they actually think and talk ) was that somebody had talked in private about William and saying something about him being scum/maple. Metagaming much and doing it really badly. Does Alejandro not like the sun? Seems pretty weird to me! I like to do my accusing out in the open, like a normal oaky tree. Shady dealings are not my style, and to be honest I don't trust them! I don't want Hickory to reveal who Alejandro is, I'd really prefer that Alejandro just came out and told us like the friendly and honest tree I'm sure he is! And maybe explain the the heck was mapley on that first page! Agreed, considering this is day one, why the need to do something like that what this tree has done. And did I understand right, it was hard to read through all the fluff. Where there more then one person that had visited (was it) Simon and said something about William?
Tamamono Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I'm Alejandro. Simon and I were having a little chat and throwing around various suspicions; William was one of mine. I don't know why he decided to PM William about it, but his reaction to it was Oaky, so that's good. I have to admit, I have no idea why I'm being held in scrutiny for this, though. Since when it is uncommon to share suspicions in private? What's more, if I was scum, I wouldn't bother doing even that, and would instead waste everyone's time by saying "Oh, there's gotta be 6 scum" or something like that in the thread.
mostlytechnic Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 As far as I concerned, this is the thing that struck me as the oddest; we only had a few comments made and there was already someone poking or trying to get a feel for what I presume was an attempt at setting up a lynch. Given that we're 6 pages into a very talkative day 1, care to quote when you make comments like that? And speaking of, as a tree, I'm very glad that this is electronic pages only here. Paper scares me. Asking if a tree is a PR or Vanilla doesn't seem like banter to me. Yup. Saying "garden variety" seems darn fishy fishing to me. Lots of ways to banter that wouldn't have made the Alder step in. Yes a typical day one but maybe a slight bit more fluffier then usual. Hey people have talked about pancakes and waffles. Everybody knows that pancakes are the best with strawberries and whippedcream, syrup is for icecream Ice cream gets CHOCOLATE or marshmallow syrup. Maple is strictly for pancakes, waffles, and french toast.
Tamamono Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Alastair and Nash did not have Oaky reactions to this, though. Especially Alastair. Surely a wise old tree like himself would recognize that those who genuinely try to uproot the Maples whether it be in the dark or the light are the real Oakiest of Oaks. At least he gave somewhat of an explanation though. Nash, explain in detail why my talking to Simon about my suspicions is suspicious.
mostlytechnic Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I'm Alejandro. Simon and I were having a little chat and throwing around various suspicions; Credit where it's due, you got 1 point on my hardwood scale for coming forward (that's hardwood scale, not morning wood scale, whole different topic there). It's something, but you need like a bajillion points to be considered trustworthy. So don't get too excited (see, morning wood pun for you there )
jimmynick Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Alastair and Nash did not have Oaky reactions to this, though. Especially Alastair. Surely a wise old tree like himself would recognize that those who genuinely try to uproot the Maples whether it be in the dark or the light are the real Oakiest of Oaks. At least he gave somewhat of an explanation though. Nash, explain in detail why my talking to Simon about my suspicions is suspicious. You know, before you said that, Nash's agreement that you (Alejandro) should come to the front weirded me out a little bit. But maybe this is his Oakiest of the Oaks schtick: Does Alejandro not like the sun? Seems pretty weird to me! I like to do my accusing out in the open, like a normal oaky tree. Shady dealings are not my style, and to be honest I don't trust them! I don't want Hickory to reveal who Alejandro is, I'd really prefer that Alejandro just came out and told us like the friendly and honest tree I'm sure he is! And maybe explain the the heck was mapley on that first page!
Zepher Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Alastair and Nash did not have Oaky reactions to this, though. Especially Alastair. Surely a wise old tree like himself would recognize that those who genuinely try to uproot the Maples whether it be in the dark or the light are the real Oakiest of Oaks. At least he gave somewhat of an explanation though. Nash, explain in detail why my talking to Simon about my suspicions is suspicious. Because it lets you say that you are oaky without having to put your name on the line! Please explain in detail how hiding suspicions instead of bringing them to all of us helps the oaks! The more we talk, the more likely the maples will get tripped up! Maybe William would get all flustered defending himself. Maybe a maple would push the accusation. Maybe people wouldn't react at all and would stay on the sidelines and not try to draw attention to themselves! I think a discussion is better than no reactions to go off of! And if Hickory hadn't brought it to our attention, we'd have no discussion! Hopefully that's in detail enough, would love to hear your reasoning fellow tree! You know, before you said that, Nash's agreement that you (Alejandro) should come to the front weirded me out a little bit. But maybe this is his Oakiest of the Oaks schtick: Agreeing with who? Myself? It sure is! I wonder why they felt the need to accuse Willy in the quiet areas of the forest considering that we'll be hacking down a tree later today. Sounds like some small scared trees to me! Why not play out in the sun like the rest of us, especially since it's such a sunny and fresh and first day...?
Piratedave84 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Given that we're 6 pages into a very talkative day 1, care to quote when you make comments like that? Sorry for the confusion there's nothing to quote, this was my assumption, my interpretation. Bruce's statements/coming out make my points a non-issue.
Scubacarrot Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I'm Alejandro. Simon and I were having a little chat and throwing around various suspicions; William was one of mine. I don't know why he decided to PM William about it, but his reaction to it was Oaky, so that's good. What could I possibly have said in the first page or so that would make me seem suspicious to you?
Brickelodeon Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Alastair and Nash did not have Oaky reactions to this, though. Especially Alastair. Surely a wise old tree like himself would recognize that those who genuinely try to uproot the Maples whether it be in the dark or the light are the real Oakiest of Oaks. At least he gave somewhat of an explanation though. I'm sorry, what? Did you get my name mixed up with somebody else?
Bob Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I have to admit, I have no idea why I'm being held in scrutiny for this, though. Since when it is uncommon to share suspicions in private? I think the reason that some people might be holding you to scrutiny is because it's very early on Day One to begin PMing someone about a suspicion you have. Especially considering you had no problem calling Catarina out in public. I don't know if it's a really scummy thing to do as of right now. Simon usually attracts a lot of Oak Trees around him, so it's not a surprise that some people (at least one that we know of) have already opened communication with him. With that being said, scum sometimes will reach out to people that historically attempt to lead the town in order to make themselves look proactive and town
fhomess Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I'm not terribly concerned about why some trees decide to hold private conversations early on. That's not unusual and people respond incredulously every time. Some are more likely to do it than others. The fact is, it can be a useful way of finding out how others feel about things that they may not be willing to contribute publicly. I'd like to hear what it was about William that made Bruce suspicious of him so early. I'd also like to hear Bruce's opinion on how Simon handled the situation. We know you found William's reaction to be rather oaky, but has Simon come across to you as oaky in the situation, too?
Tamamono Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Credit where it's due, you got 1 point on my hardwood scale for coming forward (that's hardwood scale, not morning wood scale, whole different topic there). It's something, but you need like a bajillion points to be considered trustworthy. So don't get too excited (see, morning wood pun for you there ) I'm a 10/10 on everyone's morning wood scale. You know, before you said that, Nash's agreement that you (Alejandro) should come to the front weirded me out a little bit. But maybe this is his Oakiest of the Oaks schtick: I'm glad I'm not the only one. Because it lets you say that you are oaky without having to put your name on the line! Please explain in detail how hiding suspicions instead of bringing them to all of us helps the oaks! The more we talk, the more likely the maples will get tripped up! Maybe William would get all flustered defending himself. Maybe a maple would push the accusation. Maybe people wouldn't react at all and would stay on the sidelines and not try to draw attention to themselves! I think a discussion is better than no reactions to go off of! And if Hickory hadn't brought it to our attention, we'd have no discussion! Hopefully that's in detail enough, would love to hear your reasoning fellow tree! Sorry; you had already explained. I meant Alastair - I got you guys mixed up. I get what you're saying, although it looks like you're trying a little too hard to be townie here. At that point, there wasn't much to go on, but I had gotten a bad vibe from William. There's no real explanation and I think he's town now, but I had (and still have) an oakread on Simon, so I figured it'd be good to discuss it with him. Plus, nobody can say I was trying to stifle discussion. I brought forward my other suspicion, Catalina. There's also the fact that William is kind of a dick, and I was in no mood to get into a tree-fight with him. What could I possibly have said in the first page or so that would make me seem suspicious to you? Nothing in particular; it was a vibe. I'm sorry, what? Did you get my name mixed up with somebody else? Yeah, I did. You're the one I think is Maple. You made that wishy-washy post about bringing me out to lynch on a later Day or something. If you thought what I did was scummy, why not lynch me today?? What you did is almost as bad as a Representative poking somebody. Let's lynch Alastair today. I think the reason that some people might be holding you to scrutiny is because it's very early on Day One to begin PMing someone about a suspicion you have. Especially considering you had no problem calling Catarina out in public. I don't know if it's a really scummy thing to do as of right now. Simon usually attracts a lot of Oak Trees around him, so it's not a surprise that some people (at least one that we know of) have already opened communication with him. With that being said, scum sometimes will reach out to people that historically attempt to lead the town in order to make themselves look proactive and town You're misunderstanding me - I didn't come to Simon to tell him about my suspicion. I came to him because I wasn't going to wait for all you old trees to grow some leaves and stop with the tree puns. We discussed some suspicions - he told me he was uneasy about Maggie, and I concurred, adding that William was a bit scummy to me too. If I'm making an attempt to look proactive and town, give me a Day or two to continue to. If I'm not actually an Oak, it'll become pretty apparent pretty fast. I plan on playing a very strong, aggressive Oak game; that's not something you can fake very convincingly. Isn't voting up? I'd like to hear what it was about William that made Bruce suspicious of him so early. I'd also like to hear Bruce's opinion on how Simon handled the situation. We know you found William's reaction to be rather oaky, but has Simon come across to you as oaky in the situation, too? Again, it was nothing in particular. Keep in mind that I'm the tree with the gut feelings. I don't get why Simon handled it how he did, but oh well. He's pretty Oaky in my book so far.
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