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There's a strange pattern developing here.

1) Miller (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified).

2) Bomb (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified).

3) Investigator (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified) that Bruce is Oak.

Everyone claims to Simon, ALL THE TIME. It's mandatory on EB that people claim to Simon or Speedy.

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There's a strange pattern developing here.

1) Miller (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified).

2) Bomb (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified).

3) Investigator (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified) that Bruce is Oak.

So... I can understand a Miller asking for advice, as he was planning to claim publicly anyway. The bomb claim is more suspicious, because they shouldn't have claimed to an unconfirmed tree.

It's as suspicious as someone who would come specifically asking for the identity of the bomb. :look:

The Investigator claim takes the cake. Now, it could explain why Simon started the day by accusing me twice. I accuse Bruce on Day One, Bruce flips Oak during the night, now Simon "naturally" thinks I must be scum. So we are all Oaks, and Maples are laughing their butts off watching us bicker among ourselves. But there are other possibilities. There are too many convenient claims. Every single one of the unverified claims could easily hide a Maple. I won't believe any of this until this dream team delivers a Maple lynch.

There's a lot I'd like to add to this but you know when I'm Town, I'm very very careful. Well, I am nowadays. :laugh: Verify, verify, verify. I suspected you before I heard the verification of Bruce. Sorry. Call it Imhotep-burn, but your misrepresentations of what I was saying today don't help. I'm willing to take a step back. If I'm going to be part of a "dream team" I want to be able to help the Town focus. I'll do my best to bring suspicions with low light as much evidence as I can muster.

You're trying too hard here, I still don't believe you.

I believe him, but honestly, I don't like his attitude. :tongue:

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Everyone claims to Simon, ALL THE TIME. It's mandatory on EB that people claim to Simon or Speedy.

I think its because they are experienced and know how to root out scum most of the times.

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I think its because they are experienced and know how to root out scum most of the times.

Admittedly, I've totally slaughtered the Town twice because of it, though. As Scum...maybe inadvertently once as Town. :blush:

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NO WAY! I would never have thought!

I think its because they are experienced and know how to root out scum most of the times.

Yeah but this early? There's 50/50 chances he's scum!

This happens all the time, no exception; there's always someone eager to claim to those 2 before the 2nd day is over!

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It's as suspicious as someone who would come specifically asking for the identity of the bomb. :look:

Um... refresh my memory?

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Yeah but this early? There's 50/50 chances he's scum!

This happens all the time, no exception; there's always someone eager to claim to those 2 before the 2nd day is over!

I know these are only words but this time, the info is safe with me.

Um... refresh my memory?

This is new information. I'm still looking into it, but someone asked me for the identity of the bomb. There's kind of justification for it, but I'm not sure how I feel about it. It's a ping for now.

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I don't get the whole code thing ... Would thee be a code-master? How would I, or any other stump, relay our roles to the master?

Basically, before someone dies (this would work best for someone who's going to be lynched, since they know they'll die), they can send a list of codes to someone. They can say "investigator=12, vig=26, blocker=108, vanilla=89, 97, 53, 60 and 31". When they die, they can confer with the rest of the stumps and sort out everyone's roles and (maybe) targets. Then they'll say in public "Lauren was 87, Buck was 41, I was 62." Whoever was told the codes will then know their roles. As long as they didn't die too. :wacko:

How is it plausible?

It's happened before and it will happen again. It's a terrible idea and could potentially cost the town the game, but people are going to claim to unverified leaders nonetheless.

Personally, I'm going to Vote: Nash Ash (Zepher), because he's got "Maple" written all over him. Literally. They're right next to the etchings that say "Jimmy was here, 2012" and "Mindy luvs Brad"

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Personally, I'm going to Vote: Nash Ash (Zepher), because he's got "Maple" written all over him. Literally. They're right next to the etchings that say "Jimmy was here, 2012" and "Mindy luvs Brad"

OK, but why, really? I am suspicious of him too, but mostly because he accused me of being defensive when I was voicing my suspicions. He seemed to be doing the same thing I was accusing Sammy of. If, and I don't think this at this point, Sammy is Town then Nash could've been trying to raise suspicion against me since people were starting to claim to me. Other people have been suspect of him too. Can you voice your suspicions?

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OK, but why, really? I am suspicious of him too, but mostly because he accused me of being defensive when I was voicing my suspicions. He seemed to be doing the same thing I was accusing Sammy of. If, and I don't think this at this point, Sammy is Town then Nash could've been trying to raise suspicion against me since people were starting to claim to me. Other people have been suspect of him too. Can you voice your suspicions?

It's gut feeling mostly. I am leaning towards Sammy being town, and Nash capitalizing on his accusations.

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It's gut feeling mostly. I am leaning towards Sammy being town, and Nash capitalizing on his accusations.

I also feel this may be the case. But Catarina has her low light... :look:

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I won't believe any of this until this dream team delivers a Maple lynch.

Good. I expect your full trust when we lynch a Maple today. :thumbup:

You're trying too hard here, I still don't believe you.

You've now gone from at least attempting to make coherent arguments against me to settling on the ever-vague "you're trying too hard". :laugh: This is beautiful.

I sincerely hope that if you're town you'll reconsider your deathtunnel, though. I realize how it looks with the investigator claiming to Simon, and I understand if you don't believe him yet (although I will say, to his credit, he's not playing like scum), but believe the results - that I'm an Oak.

I see you're taking this very seriously.

Lighten up a bit. :grin: This is fun.

I insta-voted Catarina after her initial low light claim, and then second-guessed.

I believe him, but honestly, I don't like his attitude. :tongue:

I'm just overjoyed at having been verified. :laugh:

It's gut feeling mostly. I am leaning towards Sammy being town, and Nash capitalizing on his accusations.

This is actually something really worth considering. I definitely think one of Sammy and Nash is a Maple. Neither of their accusations have held much weight, and they seem to be going about them in a really low-key way - almost as something they can pursue all situation if necessary. This is very characteristic of scum.

Which one, though? Simon's case for Sammy is compelling, but Nash has been pretty blatantly scummy yesterday and today (mostly yesterday). I don't think they're a team.

Adelaide, if Nash is scum, who do you think his partners are?

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I really don't know. I'm typing in very low light so I guess it looked good to me. :sceptic:

:wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

Like Simon said, are you typing on a typewriter? Are you in a log cabin and faxing your posts in somehow? It just seems like an excuse for not checking your posts in case you slip up in them. Only, it's not a very good excuse. This combined with generally fluffy posts and your behavior yesterday and today in which you launch into extreme defense mode whenever someone comes at you makes me extremely suspicious of you.

Vote: Catarina Dogwood (Adventurer1)

You've played like this before and I've passed it off, but I'm not going to ignore it this time.

Everyone claims to Simon, ALL THE TIME. It's mandatory on EB that people claim to Simon or Speedy.

Yes, and that's worked out perfectly every time, hasn't it? :look:

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So, who do you think is suspicious?

Chester, my post from yesterday is where I explained why. It also seems like Bobby is becoming more maple-y with his posts, so he is becoming one of my suspects.

Last I checked, you quoted Simon. Or were you speaking to Chester? Do you think it's sufficient to make an Official List of People You Think Are Suspicious on Day 1 and call it a game?

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Also Mr. Beech, I'm still waiting for a response

Thank you for being impatient when I didn't even have a chance to respond due to not being on the internet when you asked the question you are referring to.

Well I just didn't have anything else to add at the time, I ought to have kept my mouth shut, but quite frankly I have trouble doing that. As for the prior day, I'm just very bad at being helpful.

Oh my God, so the person who is getting lynched gives somebody a set of codes? Like let's say I get lynched. Before the end of the day, I give Bruce a set of codes. A=investigator, B=watcher, C=Flying Hippo that Shoots Lasers out of its butt, etc. And then I'm a stump and I'm like "waah, I can't vote" and then Scummy-Scumbo, let's say Sammy just for argument's sake, comes and claims Flying Hippo that Shoots Lasers out of its butt to someone and the story gets around, then I can say "Hey, Bruce, I'm a C. :grin:" Like that? So Sammy would go on pretending to be a hippo so Bruce could glean more all the while knowing I was, in fact, the Flying Hippo that Shoots Lasers out of my Butt. Why wouldn't I just tell Bruce that before I die?

Am I dense? :wacko: Or is this something everyone should do before Night in case they are Night Killed?

And who gets to have all these codes? You Mr. Unconfirmed Aggressive-Defensive Accusatory Trying Far Harder Than Anyone Else To Appear Helpful Tree?

I don't get the whole code thing ... How would I, or any other stump, relay our roles to the master?

In public presumably.

There's a strange pattern developing here.

1) Miller (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified).

2) Bomb (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified).

3) Investigator (unverified) claiming to Simon (unverified) that Bruce is Oak.

So... I can understand a Miller asking for advice, as he was planning to claim publicly anyway. The bomb claim is more suspicious, because they shouldn't have claimed to an unconfirmed tree. The Investigator claim takes the cake. Now, it could explain why Simon started the day by accusing me twice. I accuse Bruce on Day One, Bruce flips Oak during the night, now Simon "naturally" thinks I must be scum. So we are all Oaks, and Maples are laughing their butts off watching us bicker among ourselves. But there are other possibilities. There are too many convenient claims. Every single one of the unverified claims could easily hide a Maple. I won't believe any of this until this dream team delivers a Maple lynch.

And the fact that Simon could just be making up nonexistent claims that where never made is a possibility, although an unlikely one.
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And who gets to have all these codes? You Mr. Unconfirmed Aggressive-Defensive Accusatory Trying Far Harder Than Anyone Else To Appear Helpful Tree?

Didn't I already answer this several times? You need to work on your Scum game, Bobby.

And the fact that Simon could just be making up nonexistent claims that where never made is a possibility, although an unlikely one.

If it's unlikely then what is the dripping suspicion towards me?

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As for the prior day, I'm just very bad at being helpful.

Today as well.

And who gets to have all these codes? You Mr. Unconfirmed Aggressive-Defensive Accusatory Trying Far Harder Than Anyone Else To Appear Helpful Tree?

I thought it was established that people would privately create codes with people they trust and then if they get stumped, then the stumps can throw message each other to decode who had what role, and then communicate in code in-thread to the trusted townie? Did you miss the bit where it was Adelaide who originally proposed the code?

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