MagPiesRUs Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I agree with this. It's certainly not going to give us an answer but it's a good lead for now. Should we see who voted against Vicky and/or Agnes or see who they may have clashed against? No one's stopping you from looking into that. You don't need anyone's permission. To Agnes: I'm 751.
jimmynick Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Interesting, if what you said about Chester is true, I think I know who our maple-y fiend is... Care to share? Something still feels unfair about the Day 2 stumps remaining on. Maybe it's a two day thing? Who knows. The alive oaks need to start finding them Maples, and fast. Pardon me, stump, but since you are still active in this forest I think part of the burden of finding maples lies on your roots as well as ours. It's certainly not going to give us an answer but it's a good lead for now. Should we see who voted against Vicky and/or Agnes or see who they may have clashed against? Do it yourself.
mostlytechnic Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Indeed. They actually mentioned one ally, not a group. Since I'm not sure how this trust came to be (perhaps they do have the means to verify one another), I will err on the side of caution and not name anyone. On the other hand, this might be information of interest to the stumps if I can find a way of sending it through. Should be easy enough - just make several pairings, and all but one use fake code words/numbers. So if the truth is that D talked to E, then post that (123) A talked to B and (345) B talked to A and (567) D talked to E and state that the numbers are NOT to identify roles, but just to identify which pairing is true. (assuming here that 567 was a code number you actually used for something). You'd want to make it a big list so there's nothing for anyone else to go on. If you just did 3, people would start to think about which was real. Looks like the stumps could be around for a while and I can tell you that at least 3 of us were vanilla. I still have to talk to everyone but seeing that we'll probably stick around, I think the code thing can be forgotten and we will most likely form our own 'block' which will liaise through the thread. No, the codes are even more valuable since you stick around. We all should claim to the stumps today (I will as soon as I go pull up my file of codes from my other machine) and then you all can start compiling and looking for anything unbelievable. To the stumps (since I gave everyone unique codes): Catarina, I'm 74. Agnes, I'm 46. Vicky, I'm 61. It's the same info for you all, just saves a round of PMs of one of you telling the others.
Lady K Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Should be easy enough - just make several pairings, and all but one use fake code words/numbers. So if the truth is that D talked to E, then post that (123) A talked to B and (345) B talked to A and (567) D talked to E and state that the numbers are NOT to identify roles, but just to identify which pairing is true. (assuming here that 567 was a code number you actually used for something). You'd want to make it a big list so there's nothing for anyone else to go on. If you just did 3, people would start to think about which was real. No, the codes are even more valuable since you stick around. We all should claim to the stumps today (I will as soon as I go pull up my file of codes from my other machine) and then you all can start compiling and looking for anything unbelievable. This still confuses me. If maples sent out codes too, then couldn't they use them to try to claim? How would we tell the difference? I have a title!
jluck Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 This still confuses me. If maples sent out codes too, then couldn't they use them to try to claim? How would we tell the difference? I have a title! The goal would be for the maples to claim too, but for the stumps to watch for duplicate claims to catch maples claiming roles they don't have. This is the game for new titles...welcome to the club! (That title will have a great story for ya )
mostlytechnic Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 ^^^ What he said. That's why we need EVERYONE to claim so the stumps can compile and see if anything doesn't make sense. (and don't you all DARE start a bandwagon on me for using carets!!!)
badboytje88 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Ok. Thanks. I still don't understand what you're saying about the codes they gave. They revealed the codes they sent to one player also to another player? I guess that might have been me... I send the same list of codes out to multiple people... facebranch!
JackJonespaw Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 ^^^ What he said. That's why we need EVERYONE to claim so the stumps can compile and see if anything doesn't make sense. (and don't you all DARE start a bandwagon on me for using carets!!!) What the man says - a lot of you, I'm sure, threw out your codes to us stumps. Let's hear 'em, eh?
Fugazi Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Should be easy enough - just make several pairings, and all but one use fake code words/numbers. So if the truth is that D talked to E, then post that (123) A talked to B and (345) B talked to A and (567) D talked to E and state that the numbers are NOT to identify roles, but just to identify which pairing is true. (assuming here that 567 was a code number you actually used for something). You'd want to make it a big list so there's nothing for anyone else to go on. If you just did 3, people would start to think about which was real. Sounds like a good method. It's the same info for you all, just saves a round of PMs of one of you telling the others. Are you guys allowed to PM each other? If so, that does simplifies things. Now here's my claim -- but you stumps make sure not to divulge this unless there's a good reason to it and to verified Oaks only. Catarina = djj4r Agnes = 454 Vicky = Greatly
jimmynick Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Here are the final votes from yesterday: Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 16 (jamesn, Hinckley, JackJonespaw, jluck, Scaevola, Lego Spy, Bob, Lord Duvors, Fugazi, Goliath, Dragonfire, TheLazyChicken, badboytje88, fhomess, mostlytechnic, Tamamono) Chester Chestnut - 3 (StickFig, Zepher, Calanon) Nash Ash (Zepher) - 1 (TinyPiesRUs) Maggie Magnolia (Calanon) - 1 (Scubacarrot) Barry Cherry (jluck) - 1 (adventurer1) There is 1 Hour left in Day 2. With 22 Players, it takes 12 votes to lynch. These are the final votes from Day One: Alastair Pear - 15 (Stickfig, Tamamono, Scaevola, Lord Duvors, jamesn, Lego Spy, PirateDave84, Zepher, Calanon, Bob, Hinckley, adventurer1, jluck, TinyPiesRUs, Mencot) Bruce Spruce - 8 (Scubacarrot, Fugazi, Penalty, Penalty, Penalty, Penalty, Penalty, fhomess) Bobby Beech - 5 (Penalty, Penalty, Penalty, Penalty, Penalty) Catarina Dogwood - 2 ( Brickelodeon, Goliath) Hazel Hazelnut - 2 (badboytje88, mostlytechnic) Chester Chestnut - 1 (TheLazyChicken) Agnes Cyprus - 1 (Dragonfire) Berty Birch - 1 (JackJonespaw) There is 1 Hour left in Day 1. It takes 13 votes to lynch. I've marked the confirmed oaks (our cohort of stumps) in green. I've noticed something interesting. Larry Larch has some hardwood for Chester Chestnut. Today, he's said so, and on Day One, Larry voted for Chester. Interestingly, the person who immediately discounted the possibility of a third-party kill (jumping to vig or scum only) was Chester yesterday, but Larry today. Yesterday, Larry was the one who put the hammering 12th vote on the now confirmed oak, Catarina Dogwood. And, when he placed that vote, he mentioned Chester: You just got caught in a lie. You haven't been the only person who has been targeted. Chester has also been targeted, not only you. This lack of a defense on this makes you look maple-y. Also, I am interested that Maggie voted right after Nash, both days, first for Alastair and then for Chester. Were they bussing a scumbuddy? What the man says - a lot of you, I'm sure, threw out your codes to us stumps. Let's hear 'em, eh? I, ermmm, none of the people I sent codes to are currently stumps.
Bob Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 There's a few possibilities about the scum janitor: 1) The scum janitor was blocked 2) The scum have a limited number of janitorial moves and they decided not to go out last night 3) The scum are forced to alternate 4) The janitor move was a one-time deal and the scum are all noobs and they wasted it the first night There's also the chance that if Alistair was scum, then the scum trees are taken away so only Oak stumps can remain in the forest. I have a thought, that I would like to share about Alistair being janitored. Is it possible, because he is now planted outside the forest, that he was janitor because he has revive or is a restless spirit? If he was revived, wouldn't he have been planted back in the forest? Also, restless spirits are usually able to return to the day thread and post once. There hasn't been a restless spirit in a game in a long long time though. I suppose maybe we'll find out today if he is a restless spirit, but I doubt it. Ok. Thanks. I still don't understand what you're saying about the codes they gave. They revealed the codes they sent to one player also to another player? I did that as well initially, although not with Sammy. To the players that I sent codes to - disregard them. I'll start coming up with new ones for the players that haven't given me their own set. What the man says - a lot of you, I'm sure, threw out your codes to us stumps. Let's hear 'em, eh? I didn't send codes / get codes from any of these three stumps. I'll be sending out a set of different codes to everyone who hasn't told me theirs / hasn't gotten any from me very shortly.
Tamamono Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I don't think I had codes with any dead trees. Catalina, did you and I have codes at the end there? I think we spent some time making fun of codes, but none actually doing any. If the stumps can communicate via PM, they should all be in a big PM conversation that they invite people to as they die. That's how a real town bloc will be formed.
TheLazyChicken Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Here's my claim to the stumps; Vicky- 11T Catarina- 68 Agnes- 2 Looking at the votes from the last two days, I noticed that these people have joined the previous two bandwagons that resulted in the lynch for that day. Waldorf, Simon, Barry, William, Chester, Sue, Bobby, and Bruce were those people. I am sure that there is at least one scum in that group of people.
Lady K Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I don't think I had codes with any dead trees. Catalina, did you and I have codes at the end there? I think we spent some time making fun of codes, but none actually doing any. If the stumps can communicate via PM, they should all be in a big PM conversation that they invite people to as they die. That's how a real town bloc will be formed. No, we never traded codes.
TheLazyChicken Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 If the stumps can communicate via PM, they should all be in a big PM conversation that they invite people to as they die. That's how a real town bloc will be formed. I agree, this could help us so that they could gather all their information and see who could be a maple.
jimmynick Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Looking at the votes from the last two days, I noticed that these people have joined the previous two bandwagons that resulted in the lynch for that day. Waldorf, Simon, Barry, William, Chester, Sue, Bobby, and Bruce were those people. I am sure that there is at least one scum in that group of people. No manure, Hemlock.
mostlytechnic Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I, ermmm, none of the people I sent codes to are currently stumps. I don't think I had codes with any dead trees. Catalina, did you and I have codes at the end there? I think we spent some time making fun of codes, but none actually doing any. If the stumps can communicate via PM, they should all be in a big PM conversation that they invite people to as they die. That's how a real town bloc will be formed. Yeah, this is why I said to send codes to EVERYONE so that no matter WHO got stumped, you'd have communication. Since we know 100% that our stumps are oaks, we need to use that to our full advantage. But now we can't. And to everyone - remember that codes can also be used to mislead. For example, I could say hey Catarina, Joe claimed #43 to me in a PM. That could mean something, or it could be total crap and the stumps would know it because I never gave Catarina "43" as a code for anything. Like I suggested earlier, make a list of statemens where only 1 is true and the rest use fake codes so we can say things without the maples gleaning any hints from it.
Lego Spy Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I don't even know who I am anymore.... I don't have a whole lot to share, unfortunately. If the scum killed me it was either because of what Sammy Sycamore said, or possibly because Chester Chestnut is a scaridy Maple, afraid that what I said yesterday might catch on. Interesting, if what you said about Chester is true, I think I know who our maple-y fiend is... Some people seem to agree that Vicky's argument against me from yesterday was pretty good. Let's take a look at it... Yep, and this was good enough to get my vote, except that Chester happened.... This was the 6th vote against Alastair. Below is the 8th vote against Catarina. So I suppose you just wait until a tree has five or six votes against them, and then pounce on that bandwagon for obvious reasons, because aw, what the heck. Vote: Chester Chestnut (Lego Spy) Correction: His was the 6th vote both times. Oh no, is it catching on?... This is your typical, run-of-the-mill "you bandwagoned, you're scum" claim. It seems to be a rather frequent occurrence. Also, I'm sorry, but even if I was scum, I'm not dumb enough to kill someone for saying something like this about me. Lastly, Larry, why were you so quick to agree with what Vicky said?
TheLazyChicken Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Also, I'm sorry, but even if I was scum, I'm not dumb enough to kill someone for saying something like this about me. Actually, thinking about it, I don't think scum would be so dumb to do that. This still doesn't make you an oak but this does make you look less maple-y. Lastly, Larry, why were you so quick to agree with what Vicky said? It had made sense at first that you could do that if you were a maple, but now you cleared it up a little.
StickFig Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 This still confuses me. If maples sent out codes too, then couldn't they use them to try to claim? How would we tell the difference? Yep, they'll all just claim vanilla though, which will (maybe) narrow things down a bit. Care to share? Pardon me, stump, but since you are still active in this forest I think part of the burden of finding maples lies on your roots as well as ours. Do it yourself. What a scummy post: fishing and then two middle fingers to the other trees. Larry Larch has some hardwood for Chester Chestnut. Lastly, Larry, why were you so quick to agree with what Vicky said? It had made sense at first that you could do that if you were a maple, but now you cleared it up a little. "Oh crap, Larry, they're on to us! Better get a little distance!" "Ok, Chester, that should be far enough." All those who have claimed to me via code, I acknowledge your claims.
JackJonespaw Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Pardon me, stump, but since you are still active in this forest I think part of the burden of finding maples lies on your roots as well as ours. Um, well, I'm not sure how to put this... You have a burden as well, an even larger one, at that. I agree with Vick the Stump - you have to be willing to contribute yourself, not just vomit out orders.
StickFig Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Here's a full voting pattern for everyone to peruse. Day 1 Penalty votes Bobby Beech (Lord Duvors) - 5 Clem Elm (Scaevola) votes Berty Birch (Dragonfire) - 1 William Willow (Scubacarrot) votes Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) - 1 Berry Cherry (jluck) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) -1 Berty Birch (Dragonfire) votes Agnes Cyprus (JackJonesPaw) - 1 Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) votes Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) - 1 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) votes Berty (Dragonfire) - 2 Berry Cherry (jluck) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 1 Agnes Cyprus (JackJonesPaw) votes Berty (Dragonfire) - 3 Simon Persimmons (Hinckley) votes Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) - 1 Sue Sumac (Bob) votes Adelaide Apple (TinyPiesRUs) - 1 Vicky Hickory (StickFig) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 1 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) unvotes Berty Birch (Dragonfire) - 2 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 2 Clem Elm (Scaevola) unvotes Berty Birch (Dragonfire) - 1 Clem Elm (Scaevola) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 3 Bobby Beech (Lord Duvors) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 4 Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) votes Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) - 2 Waldor Walnut (jamesn) votes Alastair Pair (Brickelodeon) - 5 Sammy Sycamore (Fugazi) votes Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) - 2 Chester Chestnut (Lego Spy) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 6 Peter Cedar (badboytje88) votes Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) - 2 Lauren Laurel (Piratedave84) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 7 Nash Ash (Zepher) votes Bobby Beech (Brickelodeon) - ? Nash Ash (Zepher) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 8 Maggie Magnolia (Calanon) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 9 Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) votes Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) - 3 Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 2 Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) votes Chester Chestnut (Lego Spy) Sue Sumac (Bob) unvotes Adelaide Apple (TinyPiesRUs) - 0 Sue Sumac (Bob) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 10 Simon Persimmons (Hinckley) unvotes Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) - 1 Simon Persimmons (Hinckley) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 11 Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) unvotes Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) - 0 Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 3 Jack Pine (mostlytechnic) votes Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) - 4 Lassie Sassafras (fhomess) votes Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) - 3 Penalty votes Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) - 8 Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) unvotes Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) - 3 Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 12 Berry Cherry (jluck) unvotes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 2 Berry Cherry (jluck) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 13 Adelaide Apple (TinyPiesRUs) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 14 Buck "Dollar" Poplar (mencot) votes Alastair Pear (Brickelodeon) - 15 Day 2 Simon Persimmons (Hinckley) votes Sammy Sycamore (Fugazi) - 1 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 1 Waldorf Walnut (jamesn) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 2 Simon Persimmons (Hinckley) unvotes Sammy Sycamore (Fugazi) - 0 Simon Persimmons (Hinckley) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 3 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) unvotes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 2 Agnes Cyprus (JackJonespaw) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 3 Berry Cherry (jluck) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 4 Clem Elm (Scaevola) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 5 Chester Chestnut (Lego Spy) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 6 Adelaide Apple (TinyPiesRUs) votes Nash Ash (Zepher) - 1 Sue Sumac (Bob) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 7 Bobby Beech (Lord Duvors) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 8 Nash Ash (Zepher) votes Chester Chestnut (Lego Spy) - 1 Vicky Hickory (StickFig) votes Chester Chestnut (Lego Spy) - 1 Nash Ash (Zepher) votes Chester Chestnut (Lego Spy) - 2 Sammy Sycamore (Fugazi) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 9 Hazel Hazelnut (Goliath) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 10 Maggie Magnoila (Calanon) votes Chester Chestnut (Lego Spy) - 3 Berty Birch (Dragonfire) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 11 Peter Cedar (badboytje88) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 12 Larry Larch (TheLazyChicken) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 12 Peter Cedar (badboytje88) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 13 Lassie Sassafras (fhomess) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 14 Jack Pine (mostlytechnic) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 15 Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) votes Barry Cherry (jluck) - 1 Bruce Spruce (Tamamono) votes Catarina Dogwood (adventurer1) - 16 Not that it helps much since basically everyone voted for Alastair and Catarina.
jimmynick Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 What a scummy post: fishing and then two middle fingers to the other trees. Larry indicated he had a lead on a maple.... If anything, he is the scummy one for not sharing. I wasn't "fishing" at all. Also, did you miss the part where Adelaide also told Hazel to get his branches to work? Um, well, I'm not sure how to put this... You have a burden as well, an even larger one, at that. I agree with Vick the Stump - you have to be willing to contribute yourself, not just vomit out orders. "I'm a stump, I'm a stump, I don't have to think critically anymore!" Did you miss the bit where I did contribute myself?
Hinckley Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Looking at the votes from the last two days, I noticed that these people have joined the previous two bandwagons that resulted in the lynch for that day. Waldorf, Simon, Barry, William, Chester, Sue, Bobby, and Bruce were those people. I am sure that there is at least one scum in that group of people. I am sure that many groupings of eight people would have one Scum in them. So, what do you think joining Alasdair's bandwagon means since we still don't know his affiliation? Is there any other insight you have into my or the seven other listed player's behavior that makes you think one of us is Scum? This is one of the fluffiest statements I've seen.
Scubacarrot Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 I have a thought, that I would like to share about Alistair being janitored. Is it possible, because he is now planted outside the forest, that he was janitor because he has revive or is a restless spirit? I have no idea what you're trying to say. I have no codes to share. So whatevs.
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