Free Form Limited Set MOC Proposal (FFLSMP)

[Siegfried]

The challenge between Hinckley and I may be over (for now), but I want more! Based on my recent (incompetently designed) poll I think it would be possible for a competition to be designed that at least five (but hopefully more) people could enter.

If you are interested (or if you have some ideas) please post a few of the sets that you have free (or believe you could make up from spare parts) and that you think would be suitable. (Don't mention sets that you have but would not be prepared to break.) If we have enough interest in enough of the same sets we can start a poll (or a blind draw if people prefer) and try to pick 2-5 sets. I was thinking of trying to have in total about 1000-1500 pieces. I would also be prepared to allow a set number of additional parts.

If there is interest but it turns out that we don't have at least five people who can (and will) put together about 1000-1500 pieces from various sets I could try to make a list of pieces instead, possibly even with no fixed colours.

EDIT:

I will be editing this to reflect what people have. Please note that I don't consider anything in this list as a promise, at this stage I am just trying to find five people with at least 500 pieces in common...

3825 Krusty Krab - Hinckley, imperialshadows

4417 Aero Pod X-Pod - optimus-convoy

4478 Geonosian Fighter - Hinckley

4502 X-Wing Fighter - Hinckley

4884 Wild Hunters - Sinner, Hinckley, imperialshadows

4917 Mini Robots - Shine

4939 Cool Cars - optimus-convoy, Sinner

4954 Model Townhouse - Sinner, Hinckley

5524 Airport - imperialshadows

6205 V-Wing Fighter - Shine, Hinckley

7016 Viking Boat against the Wyvern Dragon - john cleese, Sir Dillon, Hinckley

7018 Viking Ship - Hinckley, Sir Dillon, imperialshadows

7020 Army of Vikings - Hinckley, Sir Dillon, imperialshadows

7021 Vikings vs Ofnir - Hinckley, imperialshadows

7090 Crossbow Attack - Shine, Sir Dillon, Sinner

7091 Knights' Catapult Defense - john cleese

7093 Skeleton Tower - Hinckley

7259 ARC-170 Fighter - Hinckley, Sinner (Mine is currently re-built into an X-Wing but it is an option...)

7657 AT-ST - Hinckley, imperialshadows

7692 MX-71 Recon Dropship - john cleese

7694 MT-31 Trike - john cleese

7701 Grand Titan - imperialshadows

7702 Thunder Fury - imperialshadows

7707 Striking Venom - Hinckley, Sinner

7708 Uplink - optimus-convoy, Sinner, Hinckley, imperialshadows

7709 Sentai Fortress - Hinckley

7017 Viking Catapult vs. Nidhogg Dragon - optimus-convoy, Hinckley

7092 Skeleton Prison Carriage - Sinner

7770 Deep Sea Treasure Hunter - Shine, Sir Dillon, optimus-convoy, imperialshadows

7771 Angler Ambush - john cleese, Sir Dillon

7785 Arkham Asylum - Hinckley, Sir Dillon, imperialshadows

7786 Batcopter - Hinckley, imperialshadows

7991 Garbage Truck - Shine, Hinckley, Sinner (My boy has this and I could borrow it...)

7945 Fire Station - Hinckley

8100 Cyclone Defender - optimus-convoy, Hinckley, Sinner (My boy has this and I could borrow it...)

8101 Claw Crusher - Shine, Sinner, Hinckley, john cleese

8106 Aero Booster - john cleese

8141 Off Road Power - Shine

8877 Vladek's Dark Fortress - Hinckley, imperialshadows

I will add more of mine soon...

*yoda* has said that he thinks a theme would be a good idea. Personally I would prefer no theme (hence the Free Form part), but if this is the will of the people then so be it! *sweet* (It would be a LSMP in that case.)

[Hinckley]

Hmmm...FFLSMP. Catchy. Way to coin a new acronym, Sinner. Shall I start a poll as to how to pronounce it? I'd vote for Fufulasmop.

Anyway, as I've been building for our little smackdown, here are two sets I wish I had to work with:

7707-Striking Venom

7709-Sentai Fortress

As for my dream situation:

To mix it up into other themes, these sets would be cool in one challenge:

8877 Vladek's Dark Fortress

7945 Fire Station

7785 Arkham Asylum

For fun and randomness, these two sets:

7786 Batcopter

3825 Krusty Krab

Of course, I still think a blind drawing would be best! :-$

[Siegfried]

OK. I get the hint. :'-(

Could anyone please tell me what I could do to make this idea more appealing? Less pieces? A single set? Different name? Or should me and Hinckley just have another challenge next month? (We are considering doing that anyway...)

[Shine]

Could anyone please tell me what I could do to make this idea more appealing?

Smaller sets would be nice.

Most of us are only into a few themes, so if you try to use expensive sets from a lot of different themes, chances are that most people won't have them, nor be they willing to drop the sort of cash needed to acquire them just for an online contest. However, if you were to use cheaper, five to twenty dollar sets from various themes, the people that weren't into some of the sets' themes, and subsequently didn't have the sets, would be much more willing to purchase them and participate.

[Siegfried]

Smaller sets would be nice.

What do you think should be the maximum piece count?

[Shine]

What do you think should be the maximum piece count?

I guess what I meant by "smaller" was just cheaper.

[El Bucanero]

I guess what I meant by "smaller" was just cheaper.

I agree, not everyone has the money to buy big sets of several themes were the challenger/challenged isn't even in to.

So basicly, I think it would be better to take smaller, and cheaper sets.

Like:

Etc.

Probably also harder to make a MOC with, so that makes the challenge more challenging.

Mr Tiber

Edited August 5, 2007 by Mr Tiber

[Siegfried]

But that was the whole point of this thread; people say what they have and once we find five people with enought of the common sets we start another competition. I never even mentioned buying sets. I certainly wouldn't buy a set just for a competition myself! Hinckley's examples were only that, and if you look at the list at the top, I had only one avaliable.

I would really like to do this and I still hope I can find five people (hopefully including me!) to participate. While enjoyable, a two person comp is too personal and risks causing tension. The more the merrier I think, and I am prepared to go for any set, no matter how old, or even a list of parts. I even said "possibly even with no fixed colours" to make it easier. The entire point for this competition was to level the playing field for people with less bricks, not force people to buy more.

So basicly, I think it would be better to take smaller, and cheaper sets.

Like:

-snip-

Etc.

Probably also harder to make a MOC with, so that makes the challenge more challenging.

Mr Tiber

Are these just random examples?

[El Bucanero]

Are these just random examples?

Indeed

Mr Tiber

[xwingyoda]

I would pick sets that are comprised between 4.99

[Siegfried]

I would pick sets that are comprised between 4.99€ and 19.99€ ;-)

Its also more fun and difficult to build out of smaller sets :-P

*yoda*

I was hoping to avoid that as I wanted people to do the work for me! X-D I wanted then to post what they had, and then I would try to put together a competion based on that. However, what it seems I will have to do is try and put together a few suitible combos.... or I could just give up and do another competition with Hinckley!

Thanks for the replies! *sweet* I have got more to go on now.

[Shine]

How about-

8101, Claw Crusher

7770, Deep Sea Treasure Hunter

7090, Crossbow Attack

4917, Mini Robots

7991, Garbage Truck

Edited August 5, 2007 by Shine

[Sir Dillon]

I might be interested in doing something like this with you guys. The only set I have that you listed is the Arkham Asylum, though.

[SuvieD]

Smaller sets would be better. I think you should perhaps even focus one or more sets with no figures. Those always seem to have more pieces for the money.

A lot of people don't have sets built and available either. Lots of people part out sets right away or use them for other mocs. It might be a good idea to go with new sets.

[Siegfried]

How about-

Thanks very much! *sweet* I have added them.

I might be interested in doing something like this with you guys. The only set I have that you listed is the Arkham Asylum, though.

I will be adding some of my possiblities soon. Hopefully we can find at least 500 pieces of common sets.

A lot of people don't have sets built and available either. Lots of people part out sets right away or use them for other mocs. It might be a good idea to go with new sets.

I tend to keep sets together for a year and then break them. (Some I don't though.) I haven't had a set that I have never made yet. (Ignoring doubles.) But I could change the proposal to say "or would be prepared to buy", but I don't want to exclude people who can't easily buy more.

[Hinckley]

While enjoyable, a two person comp is too personal and risks causing tension.

Do you feel tension between us? :'-( Was it the poop in the bucket? I'm sorry. :-$

(I'm just kidding. I understand what you meant. :-P )

Here's a snazzy idea! Maybe we could have a competition where people choose their favorite set and build an alternative model out of it.

Or we could make a list of 10-20 specific parts that competitors have to use in an MOC along with as many other pieces as they want. It would be cool to see how many different uses people could come up with for those 10-20 required pieces.

Another idea would be to have a Eurobricks Bag Thread where someone compiles a list of 200 pieces (maybe with reasonable alternatives) and people could post what they make with those pieces. It wouldn't have to be a competition it could just be interesting to see how different each MOC would be...

Or to be more like our smackdown, we could have people choose two sets that they already own from their favorite theme combine the pieces and build an MOC. That way every member could join the competition.

But now to go back on topic, here are the sets I have and would be willing to break:

7259 ARC-170 Fighter

4478 Geonosian Fighter

4502 X-Wing Fighter

7657 AT-ST

7020 Army of Vikings

7021 Vikings vs Ofnir

7018 Viking Ship

7093 Skeleton Tower

[Sir Dillon]

I think just using sets is still the best option.

Out of the new sets you listed, I have 7020, and 7018.

[Hinckley]

I think just using sets is still the best option.

Out of the new sets you listed, I have 7020, and 7018.

Sinner is editing the first post to contain everyone's list and who has them so check against the first post...

[Sir Dillon]

Sinner is editing the first post to contain everyone's list and who has them so check against the first post...

Mmmkay. Looking over that again, I also have 7090 Crossbow Attack, and 7770 Deep Sea Treasure Hunter.

[Hinckley]

I also have 7991 and 8101 :-$

[Shine]

Two more suggestions I had forgotten to mention-

6205, V-Wing Fighter

8141, Off Road Power

[Sir Dillon]

Just thought I'd add that I really like Yoda's idea of deciding on a certain theme.

[Hinckley]

I also have V-Wing

[optimus-convoy]

I'd like to take part in one of these sometime.

A few sets I'd break up:

7708 Uplink

8100 Cyclone Defender

4939 Cool Cars

4417 Aero Pod X-Pod (2006)

7770 Deep Sea Treasure Hunter

and maybe 7017 Viking Catapult vs. Nidhogg Dragon

[Hinckley]

I also have:

4884 Wild Hunters (some of which is in an MOC, but enough of it anyway)

4954 Model Townhouse (is on it's way, with another ice cube tray *sweet* )

7708 Uplink

7017 Nidhogg etc

8100 Cyclone Defender

7018 Viking Ship - Hinckley, Sir Dillon (I have this but I have customised it...)

*wub* Can we see? *sweet* Please