Unrest in the Forest - Day 7: Permanent Waves

[Tamamono]

I think I speak for the stumps when I say we wouldn't be surprised if both Adelaide and Sue are anti-town, but a) we put Adelaide first and b) we think Sue is the SK and we don't want to lynch her then!

This sums it up best. While I too worry with this lynch, as I have with many others, the stumps and I feel that Adelaide would be best for today. I would really like to follow up with Sammy tomorrow, if there is one.

[Walter Kovacs]

Voting update:

Adelaide Apple (TinyPiesRUs) - 3 (Bob, fhomess, Hinckley)

Sue Sumac (Bob) - 1 (TinyPiesRUs)

There are 32 Hours left in Day 7. It takes 3 votes to lynch.

*Mod Note: Last update I also said that there were 32 hours left. It was actually 40 hours left at that point. This time I'm right.

[Hinckley]

OK Stumps,

n136 XESA PMPM n4244 n139 and SUXT n2014 and n3372.

So, there's that.

[Dragonfire]

That's actually one of my primary reasons for suspecting you - because you voted for me initially. I feel like if Lassie was scum, he would have jumped on the bandwagon against me and gotten an easy lynch. I'm iffy on Sammy though, who held off on his. He may have been biding his time, waiting to see if he could get enough votes on me to lynch. He had provided some justification for voting for me earlier in the day, and may have been holding off on his vote to be certain he wasn't caught out.

So you think Lassie is towny for not jumping on your bandwagon....but Sammy is scummy for doing exactly the same thing?

Would the two remaining Scum try to split the votes between themselves?

Just post that list in the Stump PM and I can just refer to that instead of switching. It will make my life much easier. Thank you.

Waldorf already did.

I will work that out. I need n3800 Claudio or n3372? from n4913.

Not Claudio, maybe n3372.

If there is only 1 scum left, it's most likely Adelaide. It's probably not Sue due to the hammer vote yesterday. It would've made more sense for her to sit back and hope the lynch didn't go through, albeit relying on Adelaide not to contribute. It's probably not Sammy, since his vote made it 4 and made it possible for the hammer to happen. If he wanted that, he would've voted for Adelaide instead of his teammate.

I agree. Jack was bussing Adelaide earlier on in the day; when he came under fire, Adelaide stupidly abstained from voting. I agree that Sue is unlikely to be scum. Sammy is probably the second most likely scum option.

- Sammy/Adelaide - In this case, both primary lynch candidates yesterday were scum so it would conceivably not matter which one was lynched. Sammy votes with the town block to look less suspicious and because the lynch is more likely to go through. There's less explaining to do.

Also this:

Yesterday, she would've voted for Sammy if she'd had time to put a case together. Today, she finds Sammy's vote for Jack less scummy than Sue's even though Sue is the one who sealed the lynch on a scummo.

Good point. I don't see how Sue's vote looks scummy...

- Sammy/Sue - This is a realistic possibility with bussing their partner. The question would be why they didn't shift the vote over to Adelaide. Perhaps Sammy wanted to but came on just too late and saw that the town block had decided on Jack and for reasons stated above, decided it would be safer just to vote with the town block.

Yeah, this could be a possibility.

Or he's a neutral bomb that converts to a killer on Day 4...

Yes, and half the stumps are actually Cultists

Adelaide appears to be the consensus from the living and the stumps or living-impaired as they apparently prefer to be called.

Let me make this clear. We asked all the other stumps to list their top two scum-reads, including partner reads. Every single stump who commented listed Adelaide in their top two scum-reads. The other of the two names was either Sammy or Lassie- fairly spread out. The general consensus is that Sue is not scum, but is quite probably the SK.

I think I speak for the stumps when I say we wouldn't be surprised if both Adelaide and Sue are anti-town, but a) we put Adelaide first and b) we think Sue is the SK and we don't want to lynch her then!

Correct. We can't lynch the SK because if there are two Maples alive, then we lose.

OK Stumps,

n136 XESA PMPM n4244 n139 and SUXT n2014 and n3372.

So, there's that.

Umm... neither Waldorf or I has a code for "PMPM". Can you please change it to something we can understand ??

[Fugazi]

Sorry again for being absent for most of the day.

Interesting setup. With only 5 trees left, and a serious hunch that the SK is still alive, I must wonder if there can be two scum alive. Like Simon mentioned, out of the four janitored trees, two are most likely Maples, one is probably Oak, and Alastair... well back on Day Two when most of us thought there was a janitor, my read on Alastair was town. Then I changed my mind when Maples made it appear like only Oaks were being stumped.

What happened on Day 1? Alastair cast the first vote for Hazel, then changed his mind and unvoted. While many (now proven Oak) votes piled up on Alastair, Peter and Jack both voted Hazel. Given that the scum knew they would janitor the lynch, it appears weird for them not to follow the bandwagon. Unless they were still hoping to turn the bandwagon around somehow, because Alasdair was actually Maple. The other known scum, Barry, kept his vote on Catarina until he switched to hammer Alastair.

That said, my opinion is that there is one Maple left, plus the SK. However we can't completely dismiss the other option (two Maples, one SK and two Oaks) because it's not clear what constitutes an appropriate balance for the stumps. If a team of five scum have powerful night actions including a multiple-shot janitor, then perhaps the balance is good. Six scum out of 25 players seem like a lot, but may also be balanced considering the stump factor. Anyway, I'm inclined to believe the former.

In which case, it's a tossup between Adelaide and Sue for Maple. I'm not sure why Lassie isn't being brought forward as a potential suspect, but I suppose that Simon and/or the stumps know more than I do in this case.

When I brought up yesterday about Jack and Adelaide voting for the majority lynch on opposite days till Day 5 (Berty), both of them ignored my observation. Neither responded, and in the last few minutes of voting I asked Adelaide if she would cast a vote for anyone.....she left as voting closed. No vote from her.

I think Adelaide avoided voting yesterday out of fear. I think she was hoping the bandwagon on Jack would not reach completion and then once it did, she didn't want to add a late vote. By not voting, she doesn't have any specific thing to defend against and today she's completely avoiding the question of why she didn't vote.

Not sure what would be the proper response for a scum in this case, vote or not vote? No vote I suppose... Also, I don't think a scum would have hammered his fellow scum if they were the last two left in their team.

We should keep in mind that a verified investigator cleared Sammy. Sammy's posts bug the shit out of me, but with only a few people left, Sue and Adelaide's behavior is equally if not more so, concerning. Maybe Sammy seems so Scummy because I'm paranoid or because he hasn't played for a while...and plays Scummy as Town. I guess it would have to be paranoia.

He did get the momentum going on Jack, too. He followed the suggestions of the stump showing that he was looking for guidance just like Bruce and I were, so maybe we should stop suspecting him.

I do think there's a good chance the scum leader is immune to investigations, but do consider that there are three or perhaps four Maples dead already. What are the chances of the Godfather being alive today?

a) There doesn't have to be a godfather

b) It's wrong to assume that a godfather will have been investigated. Collectively, we investigated me, Clem, Bruce, Simon and Sammy. Clem and I got NKed early. We can't say that Sammy is the godfather "because there has to be one."

There usually is one when there is a miller. It would make sense with two investigators. Bruce and Sammy both think that one was naive, but I think they were both legit to balance the janitor. If you told me one of the investigated was a Godfather, I'd say Sammy in a heartbeat, even before it was just me and him left in the game. But, seriously, we're gonna have some apple pie today, I think.

I still think that one (or even both) must have been naive, because two legit investigators plus the stumps doesn't equal the janitor. So yeah, I may have been investigated by a naive investigator. You too, so you could well be the SK. See, our investigator (Waldorf) was killed the very night you were supposed to verify him (using Berty as a target) so we will never know. Not saying that the SK killed Waldorf, but only that we can't know for sure that Waldorf was legit. I don't mind either way, because Simon has been playing for town so he can't be a Maple.

Because it doesn't, at all. He suggested that each of the "scum" (the four non-stumps) were all a different size and the remaining size category contained William and Lassie. That would lead me further down my road of pursuing Lassie. This was suggested before momentum built on Jack (February 26, 8:49 AM CST). And it turns my attention away from the player we had night action results pointing to. It's convenient that each non-stump was from a different "size category" and the two people I was suspicious of, besides Jack, were in the remaining category. And it's very clever for him to think of it. And when I told him to bring up the idea publicly he resisted. That's why I did mention it. I wanted to see if it pinged anyone else. So he didn't want to announce it publicly, just plant the seed with me. That's a pretty clever Scum play, if that's what it is. But Sammy has played long enough to know that games aren't set up this way, but what he was suggesting was that Alder, as a first time host, had chosen the Scum this way. I also think Alder has been playing long enough to know not to set it up that way.

It's super pingy.

The theory was very compelling -- four janitored trees, four sizes. Back then the general opinion (not only mine, yours too) was that there wasn't a janitor but that all missing trees were non-Oak. And because it was pure metagaming and something that used to be frowned upon back when I used to play more often, I did what we always used to do -- get a second opinion privately. It would appear that my theory was wrong, with Jack and Barry both being trees of the same size, but it doesn't mean it was intended to deceive. I don't remember Alder playing that many games even though he played quite well.

I think this supports the idea that Peter was the maple killer. Jack seems a little annoyed that the images proved that Peter was a killer. I'm guessing they janitored him expecting that information not to be revealed. Unless the SK and the scum were somehow working together, the maples wouldn't have known that Peter was a SK and would have assumed he was a townie. In this light, it seems obvious that the maples would have janitored Berty if Peter wasn't scum. With Hazel and Berty both janitored, we would have assumed both were scum and would have trusted Jack more as a result for his part in both lynches. So I think Peter is most assuredly scum.

You are probably right, perhaps too much so. This sounds so right on that it makes me feel like you have some insight in the thought process behind Peter's janitoring.

The first two days, Scum placed the hammer vote. Why does that bug me?

Perhaps even the first three days. This sounds like a good strategy when you have a janitor. It's interesting they stopped on day 4 when you started suspecting Jack.

Jack's dying words were that Adelaide didn't vote. That would be a very odd Scum gambit... Hey! My Scum-mate didn't even vote!! Whiiiiiiiirrrr (sound of a chainsaw)...

Well if Adelaide was Oak wouldn't she have brought that up in her defense? I don't remember her doing that.

I wouldn't say I think of suave subtlety when I think of Peter. The strange thing about what he said and when he said is that he used the term "janitored" during a time of the game that we were all thinking only Oaks became Stumps. At the same time, Hazel's confirmation thread message and wink was really cryptic. I can't imagine a janitored Townie would wink at us like that. Maybe I'm reading too far into it. Either way, Peter could also be over-performing a decision to admit Hazel's guilt since the message was so obvious. It's rare people are that confident. Kind of like this:

This is very confident. It reminds me of the way Peter addressed the issue, but done with a little more finesse. If Sammy is Scum, this confidence would've come from knowing Berty would be lynched and they could clean him up with the janitor. That plan would've been ruined by our friend Chester "Steel Spikes" Chestnut, friendly neighborhood bomb. Either way, cleared-as-Oak Sammy keeps coming up with new ways to ping.

Sorry, but it's the opposite: scum knew they had a janitor and therefore that the action could be blocked, or that they would need to janitor one of their own instead. They wouldn't have been as confident as I was.

Then again, if either one of you was Scum you'd be jumping all over my suspicion of Sammy. Unless you really want to bus each other. I'm going to lose my mind. And yet this is really exciting Mafia.

Well, if both of them were scum they would totally be jumping at your suspicion of me. As there likely is only one Maple left, they're jumping at the most scummy target and that isn't me.

Another Sammy ping. Think that Hazel is an Oak and read that quote again. Keep in mind it was the second time he brought it up as a reason not to vote for Jack and he was right on my heels with that vote.

Do you think that I would try to steer the vote away from Jack yet vote for him in the same post? If I was going to bus a fellow scum, I wouldn't do it half-way.

Would the two remaining Scum try to split the votes between themselves?

Perhaps, though so far we've always managed to reach a consensus and lynch.

If there are 2 scum left, here are the options:

- Sammy/Adelaide - In this case, both primary lynch candidates yesterday were scum so it would conceivably not matter which one was lynched. Sammy votes with the town block to look less suspicious and because the lynch is more likely to go through. There's less explaining to do.

Also this:

Yesterday, she would've voted for Sammy if she'd had time to put a case together. Today, she finds Sammy's vote for Jack less scummy than Sue's even though Sue is the one who sealed the lynch on a scummo.

- Sammy/Sue - This is a realistic possibility with bussing their partner. The question would be why they didn't shift the vote over to Adelaide. Perhaps Sammy wanted to but came on just too late and saw that the town block had decided on Jack and for reasons stated above, decided it would be safer just to vote with the town block.

I remind you that I have been suspicious of Adelaide and Sue for a long time due to suspicious voting patterns. My theories are out there for anyone to read. Also, I was around during Day 6 so I could have switched my vote at any time.

Vote: Adelaide Apple (TinyPiesRUS)

[Dragonfire]

Interesting setup. With only 5 trees left, and a serious hunch that the SK is still alive, I must wonder if there can be two scum alive. Like Simon mentioned, out of the four janitored trees, two are most likely Maples, one is probably Oak, and Alastair... well back on Day Two when most of us thought there was a janitor, my read on Alastair was town. Then I changed my mind when Maples made it appear like only Oaks were being stumped.

What happened on Day 1? Alastair cast the first vote for Hazel, then changed his mind and unvoted. While many (now proven Oak) votes piled up on Alastair, Peter and Jack both voted Hazel. Given that the scum knew they would janitor the lynch, it appears weird for them not to follow the bandwagon. Unless they were still hoping to turn the bandwagon around somehow, because Alasdair was actually Maple. The other known scum, Barry, kept his vote on Catarina until he switched to hammer Alastair.

That said, my opinion is that there is one Maple left, plus the SK. However we can't completely dismiss the other option (two Maples, one SK and two Oaks) because it's not clear what constitutes an appropriate balance for the stumps. If a team of five scum have powerful night actions including a multiple-shot janitor, then perhaps the balance is good. Six scum out of 25 players seem like a lot, but may also be balanced considering the stump factor. Anyway, I'm inclined to believe the former.

I'm pretty sure that there were five scum to start out with; depending on whether Alastair was a Maple or an Oak, there are one or two scum left.

In which case, it's a tossup between Adelaide and Sue for Maple. I'm not sure why Lassie isn't being brought forward as a potential suspect, but I suppose that Simon and/or the stumps know more than I do in this case.

Don't fish. Lassie is simply townier than you guys. She could be scum, true, but you and Adelaide are more likely scum.

Not sure what would be the proper response for a scum in this case, vote or not vote? No vote I suppose... Also, I don't think a scum would have hammered his fellow scum if they were the last two left in their team.

I agree. It makes no sense for Sue to do this if they were the last two left. It also makes no sense if there were three scum left. If there were three scum left, then scum could have won right there and then with a no-lynch. This clears Sue of being scum in my eyes, but not necessarily from being the SK.

I still think that one (or even both) must have been naive, because two legit investigators plus the stumps doesn't equal the janitor. So yeah, I may have been investigated by a naive investigator. You too, so you could well be the SK. See, our investigator (Waldorf) was killed the very night you were supposed to verify him (using Berty as a target) so we will never know. Not saying that the SK killed Waldorf, but only that we can't know for sure that Waldorf was legit. I don't mind either way, because Simon has been playing for town so he can't be a Maple.

Nope. Simon can't be the Serial Killer.

Waldorf may well have been naive...or Clem could have been naive. Maybe they both were

I really don't understand the part of your quote that I have bolded. Care to explain it?

[Hinckley]

Umm... neither Waldorf or I has a code for "PMPM". Can you please change it to something we can understand ??

Oh, sorry. Try PRVM

I remind you that I have been suspicious of Adelaide and Sue for a long time due to suspicious voting patterns. My theories are out there for anyone to read. Also, I was around during Day 6 so I could have switched my vote at any time.

And can vouch for Sammy on that. He brought his suspicions to me in private before outlining them in thread. We only tested Nash from his list of suspects. I think after Berty flipped as an Oak and Peter was janitored we thought that meant Adelaide and Sue both more likely to be Town since they had voted for him.

[Fugazi]

Don't fish. Lassie is simply townier than you guys. She could be scum, true, but you and Adelaide are more likely scum.

From my point of view, there's not other reason not to consider her but the apparent stump support.

I really don't understand the part of your quote that I have bolded. Care to explain it?

That part is where it appears to me that Adelaide is reaching way beyond what a regular Oak would know/understand about Maple strategy. It sounds worryingly accurate.

[Hinckley]

I really don't understand the part of your quote that I have bolded. Care to explain it?

Since we were confident both investigators were Oaks, we had Waldorf target you to see if he came up with a Town result to prove or disprove the theory that he could be naive. Unfortunately, he was killed that night. Since there was suspicion around Maggie seeming to be protected by Barry when Bruce asked him to kill her, I assume the Scum wouldn't want to kill her and have her around as a potential mislynch. I think the Serial Killer killed Maggie and the Scum killed Waldorf.

[Dragonfire]

I forgot to include this quote in my last post.

I could point out all of the other things I've done that make little sense for a maple to do (sticking with the vote against Peter, worrying about Hazel being a townie despite the advantage such an assumption would give the scum, not voting for Jack at the end of the day when it would make sense for a maple to just follow along...), but I'm guessing you'll all just dismiss all of it as WIFOM.

I'm pretty sure this isn't true. You, like everyone else (except Bruce), denounced Hazel as scum and lynched me on that basis on Day Five. You can't deny that. You only started "worrying" after I flipped Oak, your plot to janitor me was foiled, and Jack died.

Oh, sorry. Try PRVM

Sorry, Waldorf and I have no codes for that either. The only four-letter combinations we have are: SWZM, RPMS, XESA, EQFQ, UYLW, UJRO and SUXT.

From my point of view, there's not other reason not to consider her but the apparent stump support.

From your point of view (assuming you're Town), any of the other living trees could be Scum.

Since we were confident both investigators were Oaks, we had Waldorf target you to see if he came up with a Town result to prove or disprove the theory that he could be naive. Unfortunately, he was killed that night. Since there was suspicion around Maggie seeming to be protected by Barry when Bruce asked him to kill her, I assume the Scum wouldn't want to kill her and have her around as a potential mislynch. I think the Serial Killer killed Maggie and the Scum killed Waldorf.

Oh OK, thanks. I understand it now. But...how did Sammy know? Did you tell him via PM or was he privy to the information when Waldorf was alive?

(BTW: I agree with the assumption that Maggie was killed by the SK)

[Hinckley]

I'm pretty sure this isn't true. You, like everyone else (except Bruce), denounced Hazel as scum and lynched me on that basis on Day Five. You can't deny that. You only started "worrying" after I flipped Oak, your plot to janitor me was foiled, and Jack died.

I quoted posts from Sammy that were over-confident you'd flip Scum and be janitored, didn't I?

Sorry, Waldorf and I have no codes for that either. The only four-letter combinations we have are: SWZM, RPMS, XESA, EQFQ, UYLW, UJRO and SUXT.

Try the words Private Message.

Oh OK, thanks. I understand it now. But...how did Sammy know? Did you tell him via PM or was he privy to the information when Waldorf was alive?

(BTW: I agree with the assumption that Maggie was killed by the SK)

Sammy came up with the idea simultaneously, which annoyed me since I wanted to keep that between me, Bruce and Waldorf. I'm glad to be reminded about it since, if he is Scum and had a role cop, we told him he had been cleared. Perhaps he wanted to get rid of the investigator who cleared him. He really can't open his mouth in this game without saying something Scummy The timing of Waldorf's death seems all the more ominous now.

[Tamamono]

Try the words Private Message.

Ok, that's what we had assumed.

But why??

[Hinckley]

Ok, that's what we had assumed.

But why??

Right? Beats me. Two Scum remaining, that's what I think. Miss you.

[Fugazi]

You were working under the assumption that your investigators were verified and now that I reminded you that they weren't you think that I am scum? Haha. Besides, I thought you agreed that Waldorf was killed by the SK while the scum killer was busy elsewhere.

[Tamamono]

Right? Beats me. Two Scum remaining, that's what I think. Miss you.

Even in stumphood, we're all still with you.

[Hinckley]

You were working under the assumption that your investigators were verified and now that I reminded you that they weren't you think that I am scum? Haha. Besides, I thought you agreed that Waldorf was killed by the SK while the scum killer was busy elsewhere.

You reminded me that you knew of our plan to verify Waldorf wasn't naive, we believed he was Town since Clem had cleared him and was a stump. I never agreed Waldorf was killed by the SK. While I don't know for sure, it makes more sense that your team the Scum killed him.

You do not seem like an Oak to me at all

[Dragonfire]

I quoted posts from Sammy that were over-confident you'd flip Scum and be janitored, didn't I?

Yes, you did. I was talking to Adelaide.

Sammy came up with the idea simultaneously, which annoyed me since I wanted to keep that between me, Bruce and Waldorf. I'm glad to be reminded about it since, if he is Scum and had a role cop, we told him he had been cleared. Perhaps he wanted to get rid of the investigator who cleared him. He really can't open his mouth in this game without saying something Scummy The timing of Waldorf's death seems all the more ominous now.

Yeah.

Right? Beats me. Two Scum remaining, that's what I think. Miss you.

If there are two Scum left, then it's Sammy and Adelaide.

I still don't understand the point of your codes. The stump thread is full of speculations. If what we think you're saying is correct, then it's pretty crazy.

[Hinckley]

n136 says he MPRV n4244 and SUXT n3372 and to n139 and SUXT n4209. As a XESA, supposedly a SWZM because n136 SUXT Hero. But maybe he won't.

If it sounds crazy then you've probably got the interpretation right, because it sounds ducked to me.

[MagPiesRUs]

How do you know that?

That's the impression I get, considering that a large proportion of the posts here have been codes.

So you think Lassie is towny for not jumping on your bandwagon....but Sammy is scummy for doing exactly the same thing?

Because Lassie actually voted for Jack instead. Sammy on the other hand held off on voting, waiting to see how things would play out before voting for Jack.

You are probably right, perhaps too much so. This sounds so right on that it makes me feel like you have some insight in the thought process behind Peter's janitoring.

Thanks. It seems pretty clear to me that that's what happened.

Well if Adelaide was Oak wouldn't she have brought that up in her defense? I don't remember her doing that.

Yes, I mentioned that. I think Jack used his final words to draw attention to me in the hope that I'd be vig-killed last night, and to cast further doubt over whether or not he was a maple that night.

I'm pretty sure this isn't true. You, like everyone else (except Bruce), denounced Hazel as scum and lynched me on that basis on Day Five. You can't deny that. You only started "worrying" after I flipped Oak, your plot to janitor me was foiled, and Jack died.

I was doubtful about Hazel being scum up until I noticed she had changed her avatar and sig, which seemed a very strong indication that she wasn't expecting to return to us. When he didn't come back as a stump, it seemed obvious she must be scum. Only after you and Peter died, and in light of Peter's comments, I began to start worrying again.

[Lady K]

n136 says he MPRV n4244 and SUXT n3372 and to n139 and SUXT n4209. As a XESA, supposedly a SWZM because n136 SUXT Hero. But maybe he won't.

If it sounds crazy then you've probably got the interpretation right, because it sounds ducked to me.

Yea, thats what I got only backwards. Either way its.........

[Dragonfire]

n136 says he MPRV n4244 and SUXT n3372 and to n139 and SUXT n4209. As a XESA, supposedly a SWZM because n136 SUXT Hero. But maybe he won't.

If it sounds crazy then you've probably got the interpretation right, because it sounds fudged to me.

Wow. We got it right, only backwards. Thanks, but it's definitely crazy, if true at all.

[Walter Kovacs]

Voting update:

Adelaide Apple (TinyPiesRUs) - 4 (Bob, fhomess, Hinckley, Fugazi)

Sue Sumac (Bob) - 1 (TinyPiesRUs)

There are 24 Hours left in Day 7. It takes 3 votes to lynch.

[fhomess]

So it seems to me that in looking at the various interactions over the past several days, there's enough there to suggest that if there are two scum, they've done a decent job of trying to hide their interactions. I lean strongest to Sue and Adelaide not being on the same team for some of the persistence and the fact they've accused each other. Sammy and Adelaide have had their share of accusations, although it's mostly been Sammy suspicious of Adelaide and less so the other way. Sammy and Sue looks more like this relationship, too, with Sammy accusing Sue and not as much Sue poking Sammy. I'm not sure there's enough in there for me to feel like it's pushing one way or the other.

I still feel like Adelaide is the best candidate for today given her behavior throughout and the votes from yesterday. I don't think she suspected that William would not be with us today and that he would be a nice scapegoat when she declined to vote.

[jimmynick]

n136 says he MPRV n4244 and SUXT n3372 and to n139 and SUXT n4209. As a XESA, supposedly a SWZM because n136 SUXT Hero. But maybe he won't.

If it sounds crazy then you've probably got the interpretation right, because it sounds ducked to me.

Let's burn the witch.

How about n764 SUXT n7019 Claudio for n4774?

[Fugazi]

Well I certainly hope that there's only one Maple left and that it's Adelaide, because I get the feeling that Simon will attempt to have me vig-killed tonight.

Unfortunately, Adelaide just privately tried to make me switch my vote, claiming that she's only the SK. She might actually be the SK, in which case if she's lynched and I'm vig-killed the remaining scum will have their victory served on a silver platter. I'm more of the opinion that she's scum trying to wriggle their way out of this lynch by any possible means. Picture this: she's scum claiming SK, asks for my help pretending to think I'm scum, knowing well that I'm Oak and will go public with her message. However, that could seed enough doubt into everyone's mind that she might actually be the SK, therefore making us switch votes. Well I don't believe she's actually the SK, but it's up to all of you to decide.