BEAVeR Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 "Welcome, welcome! Place your bets here! Hey you... I see you're not from around here. Want to earn some money with these podraces huh? Come closer, let old Watto show you how it's done..." The Goal:During this contest, each faction maintains a prediction of the outcome of the building contest in this thread. This prediction has the form of a ranking of players, in the order the faction thinks they will end. Each faction tries to make its prediction as accurate as possible. How the betting works:As soon as a faction has agreed on its predictions, their bets can be placed. These bets can involve players that haven't submitted a creation for the contest yet, and even players that eventually won't have participated. New players can be added at any time to the ranking, and the place of people that are already in the ranking can be changed. However, as soon as a player has submitted his creation in this forum, his position in each ranking becomes fixed. This means that he can't be added to or moved inside the ranking. It is possible that this player still gains or looses some places in the ranks due to the including or moving of other free players. But once a player is fixed, his position relative to other fixed players can't be changed. So place your bets timely and wisely. Below are some examples of what's possible and impossible according to these rules: The initial ranking is Player A Player B Player C Player D Players A, C and E have already posted their builds. This is noted by drawing a bar through them, indicating their positions are fixed. They are referred to as "fixed entries". Players B, D and F haven't posted their builds yet. They are referred to as "free entries". All examples below will start from this ranking. Adding a person to the ranking: Possible: adding a player to the list that hasn't published his build yet (i.e. a free entry) Player A Player F Player B Player C Player D Impossible: adding a player to the list that has published his build already (i.e. a fixed entry) Player A Player E Player B Player C Player D Changing a person's position in the ranking: Possible: changing the position of a "free entry", whether this causes any number of "fixed entries" to gain or loose a position or not. Player B Player A Player C Player D N.B.: In the betting thread, this should be stated as "Put Player B on place 1", and NOT as "Put Player A on place 2". To avoid confusion, fixed players should never be mentioned when placing a bet in the betting thread. Impossible: changing the position of a "fixed entry" relative to another "fixed entry". Player C Player A Player B Player D N.B.: Fixed entries can take a new place in the ranking though, like in the example above. Submitting a bet:Both rankings will be kept track of in this post. When internal discussion in each faction has lead to a prediction, two individual players of that faction have to post those prediction in this thread. This is to prevent abuse from single players, acting without permission of the faction. Bets have to be placed in the following form: "Put <insert player name here> on place <insert place number here>" . This form applies to both adding new players to the ranking and changing the position of a player in the ranking. Scoring of the bets:When the episode is finished, all players that participated are fixed, and players that didn't participate will be removed form the rankings. No changes can be made to the rankings. When the scores of the judges are published, this implies the actual ranking. Each faction will then get 1 betting point for every "player A > player B" situation they predicted correctly. The total betting score will be divided by the best possible score (if the eventual ranking would have been flawlessly predicted). This fraction will be multiplied by 25 (so that the betting points won't outweigh the regular points too much). This number will be added to the score for the builds in order to determine which faction has won. Questions and Answers: Q: Will the betting in any way affect the score I get? A: No, the betting will only be used to help to determine which faction wins this round. Your position in the predictions will have no effect on the number of XP you get. That is equal to the number of XP the judges give you, and not directly related to your position in the final ranking. Q: Are we allowed to have individual rankings? A: No, there is one predictive ranking for each faction, and that will be managed by discussion with the entire faction in the corresponding threads of the Avenger and the Redemption. Q: How do we post multiple predictions at once? A: Two persons of the faction just have to enter a list containing the "Put <insert player name here> on place <insert place number here>" statements mentioned above. One post can contain as many bets as you like, as long as someone else of your faction posts the same bets. The Galactic Empire's predictions: markus1984 Disco86 Bob De Quatre WickNole Ninja Nin LegoFjotten MstrOfPppts goatman461 LucasLaughing Jacob Nion TWP Covi Wat Tambor Donnie Bricko Rook Lord Vladivus MKJoshA Jakorin Swiftsword Graham Gidman Pointblank BEAVeR Lord Tyrus Mr Greeble Commander Beltar Lobot Artizan Jannik Kaitan Masked Builder Andrew Spader Nom Carver Lego Spy Kodan Black rogueang GallardoLU floed pihlbrick narbilu TaseTJ KuatDriveYards Flare Wedge09 VK-318 Commander Smith Aland1916 MontyPython Tariq j Mr Breden Behemoth (Goliath) Dapper-D2 Fleet Legofin2012 Mr Man Manx KevFett2011 OHarra Bkrosell James Wellington LegoFan117 Captain Settle Dragonfire korpen4444 theman4090 Scorch93 The Rebel Alliance's predictions: Monty Python goatman461 MstrOfPppts Ninja Nin BEAVeR WickNole LucasLaughing Disco86 markus1984 MKJoshA Flare Sebeus I Pointblank LegoFjotten Donnie Bricko Artizan Wat Tambor Lord Tyrus Manx Wedge09 VK-318 Lego Spy Oharra Commander Beltar Bob De Quatre Dapper-D2 Fleet Mr Greeble Kodan Black Legofin2012 James Wellington Jannik LordVladivus GallardoLU KevFett2011 Kaitan Rook Aland1916 TWP Tariq j philbrick Covi Lobot Nom Carver Masked Builder rogueang Mr Man Behemoth (Goliath) Kuat Drive Yards Dragonfire narbilu theman4090 Bkrosell Mr Breden Captain Settle LegoFan117 korpen4444 Pyrovisionary JaseTJ Ritz Brick BobThePom SlimShady hench Players who've already entered: Graham Gidman, Jakorin Swiftsword, goatman461, Kodan Black, Lord Tyrus, MontyPython, Commander Beltar, Dragonfire, Jannik, Tariq j, MstrOfPppts, Donnie Bricko, Jacob Nion, LucasLaughing, WickNole (last updated 3 May 2015) Quote
WickNole Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) The Rebel Alliance places the following bet: Put MstrOfPppts on place 1 Put BEAVeR on place 2 Put LucasLaughing on place 3 Put Disco86 on place 4 Put markus1984 on place 5 Put goatman461 on place 6 Put Flare on place 7 Put Sebeus I on place 8 Put Pointblank on place 9 Put Artizan on place 10 Put Wat Tambor on place 11 Put Lord Tyrus on place 12 Put VK-318 on place 13 Put Lego Spy on place 14 Put Commander Beltar on place 15 Put Mr Greeble on place 16 Put Kodan Black on place 17 Put Legofin2012 on place 18 Put James Wellington on place 19 Put GallardoLU on place 20 Put KevFett2011 on place 21 Put Tariq j on place 22 Put Lobot on place 23 Put Nom Carver on place 24 Put Masked Builder on place 25 Put TaseTJ on place 26 Put Mr Man on place 27 Put Behemoth (Goliath) on place 28 Put Kuat Drive Yards on place 29 Put Dragonfire on place 30 Put theman4090 on place 31 Put Mr Bredan on place 32 Put Captain Settle on place 33 Put korpen4444 on place 34 Put JaseTJ on place 35 Put Ritz Brick on place 36 Put SlimShady on place 37 Edited March 15, 2015 by WickNole Quote
BEAVeR Posted March 15, 2015 Author Posted March 15, 2015 I'd like to remind you that two individual players have to submit the same predictions for them to be included as the official bets for the faction. So now someone else from the Rebels has to copy WickNole's post above and post it, if WickNole is indeed communicating what the Rebels think as a whole. Only then will the first post be updated with the predictions. The predictions above are only about Imperial players. This maybe because of tactical reasons, but it doesn't hurt if I remind you that your final ranking can include Imperial and Rebel players in a single list. Quote
MKJoshA Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I back up WickNole's bet: The Rebel Alliance places the following bet: Put MstrOfPppts on place 1 Put BEAVeR on place 2 Put LucasLaughing on place 3 Put Disco86 on place 4 Put markus1984 on place 5 Put goatman461 on place 6 Put Flare on place 7 Put Sebeus I on place 8 Put Pointblank on place 9 Put Artizan on place 10 Put Wat Tambor on place 11 Put Lord Tyrus on place 12 Put VK-318 on place 13 Put Lego Spy on place 14 Put Commander Beltar on place 15 Put Mr Greeble on place 16 Put Kodan Black on place 17 Put Legofin2012 on place 18 Put James Wellington on place 19 Put GallardoLU on place 20 Put KevFett2011 on place 21 Put Tariq j on place 22 Put Lobot on place 23 Put Nom Carver on place 24 Put Masked Builder on place 25 Put TaseTJ on place 26 Put Mr Man on place 27 Put Behemoth (Goliath) on place 28 Put Kuat Drive Yards on place 29 Put Dragonfire on place 30 Put theman4090 on place 31 Put Mr Bredan on place 32 Put Captain Settle on place 33 Put korpen4444 on place 34 Put JaseTJ on place 35 Put Ritz Brick on place 36 Put SlimShady on place 37 Quote
Kodan Black Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 The Galactic Empire wishes to place the following Rebel bets: Put WickNole on place 1 Put Bob De Quatre on place 2 Put Ninja Nin on place 3 Put LegoFjotten on place 4 Put Jacob Nion on place 5 Put TWP on place 6 Put Covi on place 7 Put Rook on place 8 Put Jakorin Swiftsword on place 9 Put Donnie Bricko on place 10 Put LordVladivus on place 11 Put MKJoshA on place 12 Put Graham Gidman on place 13 Put Kaitan on place 14 Put Andrew Spader on place 15 Put Jannik on place 16 Put rogueang on place 17 Put pihlbrick on place 18 Put Wedge09 on place 19 Put narbilu on place 20 Put Commander Smith on place 21 Put Aland1916 on place 22 Put MontyPython on place 23 Put Fleet on place 24 Put Dapper-D2 on place 25 Put Manx on place 26 Put OHarra on place 27 Put Bkrosell on place 28 Put LegoFan117 on place 29 Quote
goatman461 Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Put Bob De Quatre on place 1 Put WickNole on place 2 Put Ninja Nin on place 3 Put LegoFjotten on place 4 Put Jacob Nion on place 5 Put TWP on place 6 Put Covi on place 7 Put Rook on place 8 Put Donnie Bricko on place 9 Put LordVladivus on place 10 Put MKJoshA on place 11 Put Jakorin Swiftsword on place 12 Put Graham Gidman on place 13 Put Tyrus on place 14 Put Kaitan on place 15 Put Andrew Spader on place 16 Put Jannik on place 17 Put rogueang on place 18 Put pihlbrick on place 19 Put Wedge09 on place 20 Put narbilu on place 21 Put Commander Smith on place 22 Put Aland1916 on place 23 Put MontyPython on place 24 Put Fleet on place 25 Put Dapper-D2 on place 26 Put Manx on place 27 Put OHarra on place 28 Put Bkrosell on place 29 Put LegoFan117 on place 30 (Edit: ...Please) Edited April 27, 2015 by goatman461 Quote
WickNole Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Alliance places the following bet (as this is a bit complicated to but all new bets inbetween previously placed ones - therefore the existing bets are marked with stated places, and the new ones are put between them - i hope this would be acceptable for Watto): 1 MstrOfPppts Ninja Nin 2 BEAVeR 3 LucasLaughing 4 Disco86 MontyPython 5 markus1984 6 goatman461 mkjosha 7 Flare 8 Sebeus I 9 Pointblank LegoFjotten Donnie Bricko 10 Artizan 11 Wat Tambor 12 Lord Tyrus Manx Wedge09 13 VK-318 14 Lego Spy Oharra 15 Commander Beltar Bob De Quatre Dapper-D2 Fleet 16 Mr Greeble 17 Kodan Black 18 Legofin2012 19 James Wellington Jakorin Swiftsword Jannik LordVladivus 20 GallardoLU 21 KevFett2011 Graham Gidman Kaitan Rook Aland1916 TWP 22 Tariq j philbrick Covi 23 Lobot 24 Nom Carver 25 Masked Builder rogueang 26 Mr Man 27 Behemoth (Goliath) 28 Kuat Drive Yards 29 Dragonfire narbilu 30 theman4090 Bkrosell 31 Mr Breden 32 Captain Settle LegoFan117 33 korpen4444 Pyrovisionary Hobbythom 34 JaseTJ 35 Ritz Brick BobThePom 36 SlimShady hench Quote
BEAVeR Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 Updated the rankings. Dear members of the Rebel Alliance, I did not include Jakorin Swiftsword and Graham Gidman in your predictions, because they already posted their entries before you submitted your list. Therefor, they couldn't be added to your list. Your loosing valuable points here, so take care to coordinate your posting and betting! The Imperials changed their ranking a bit, but Jakorin Swiftsword and Graham Gidman didn't change positions in the ranking, so that's allowed. Quote
goatman461 Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Put markus1984 on place 1 Put Disco86 on place 2 Put Bob De Quatre on place 3 Put WickNole on place 4 Put Ninja Nin on place 5 Put LegoFjotten on place 6 Put MstrOfPpts on place 7 Put goatman461 on place 8 Put Lucas Laughing on place 9 Put Jacob Nion on place 10 Put TWP on place 11 Put Covi on place 12 Put Wat Tambor on place 13 Put Donnie Bricko on place 14 Put Rook on place 15 Put LordVladivus on place 16 Put MKJoshA on place 17 Put Jakorin Swiftsword on place 18 Put Graham Gidman on place 19 Put Pointblank on place 20 Put BEAVeR on place 21 Put Lord Tyrus on place 22 Put Mr Greeble on place 23 Put Commander Beltar on place 24 Put Lobot on place 25 Put Artizan on place 26 Put Jannik on place 27 Put Kaitan on place 28 Put Masked Builder on place 29 Put Andrew Spader on place 30 Put Nom Carver on place 31 Put Lego Spy on place 32 Put Kodan Black on place 33 Put rogueang on place 34 Put GallardoLU on place 35 Put floed on place 36 Put pihlbrick on place 37 Put narbilu on place 38 Put TaseTJ on place 39 Put KDY on place 40 Put Flare on place 41 Put Wedge09 on place 42 Put VK-318 on place 43 Put Commander Smith on place 44 Put Aland1916 on place 45 Put MontyPython on place 46 Put Tariq j on place 47 Put Mr Bredan on place 48 Put Goliath on place 49 Put Dapper-D2 on place 50 Put Fleet on place 51 Put Legofin2012 on place 52 Put Mr Man on place 53 Put Manx on place 54 Put KevFett2011 on place 55 Put OHarra on place 56 Put Bkrosell on place 57 Put James Wellington on place 58 Put LegoFan117 on place 59 Put Captain Settle on place 60 Put Dragonfire on place 61 Put korpen4444 on place 62 Put theman4090 on place 63 Put Scorch93 on place 64 Quote
WickNole Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Alliance places the following bet: goatman461 MstrOfPppts - move to place 2 Ninja Nin - move to place 3 BEAVeR - move to place 4 WickNole - new bet to place 5 LucasLaughing - move to place 6 Disco86 - move to place 7 Monty Python - move to place 8 markus1984 - move to place 9 Quote
BEAVeR Posted May 3, 2015 Author Posted May 3, 2015 Dear members of the Rebel Alliance, I'm sorry to announce the latest bet you placed is not compliant with the rules. In your previous ranking, you placed MontyPython above goatman461. Both have posted their builds before you placed your new bets, in which goatman461 comes above Monty Python. So two players that have already posted their build change places. This is against the rules. For now, I'll just place MontyPython above goatman461 while I take your other bets. It's up to you to decide where both players end up now, as long as players who've already posted don't swap places. So act quickly! Quote
WickNole Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 As MontyPython was above goatman461, when they both posted, we're unable to change their position. Therefore, yes, he should remain on place 1 and goatman461 on place two. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but do I understand correctly that if we place multiple bet in one post - do ALL lines need to comply with the rules? Or is each line treated separately (i.e. like in previous post - when Monthy were not accepted while other lines were)? Quote
BEAVeR Posted May 3, 2015 Author Posted May 3, 2015 Ideally, of course, all bets should comply with the rules, so we're talking about an exception here. However, I understand that it's very hard to discuss the bets in group now so close to the deadline, therefore I'll accept posts with here and there an error, as long as it's somewhat clear to me how to post your bets according to the rules. I try to do this as well as possible, but please don't come complaining afterwards, as the errors are your responsibility. Quote
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