brunojj1 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Hello together, what is going on in this year´s supercar battle?? It seems to get quite intense and I really enjoy it to see so many posting outstanding MOCs here with a clearly visible improving standard requirements put on supercars. So let me give you some more: the LaFerrari. Not all people like Ferrari, some prefer non- PF supercars and some are tired of red supercars at all. But honestly - I don´t care ;-). Hopefully the Lambo fraction will like it anyway too;-). I think everyone knows the real car, if not – visit the homepage, so I don´t need to describe it. Its concept is different, innovative and unusual as my MOC was designed to be as well. The project started about 1 year ago. After the LaFerrari´s appearance at the Geneva Motor Show this mind blowing car was my next one to recreate. Not in 1 day of course. The goals for the final product were set high from the beginning. The main objectives were: - increase speed using 2 XL motors + 2 additional L motors, similar to the 2. engine in the real car - best possible functionality with full range PF equipment - “gapless” bodywork concept - a fair tribute to the real car by keeping a strict scale The resulting facts: – 1:10 scale; L62 x W30 x H15 studs (49 x 24,5 x 12 cm); 1-1,5 stud ground clearance – weight: 2,5 kg – parts amount: 2.000 + (including 52 Technic panels) – independent wheel suspension – RWD with 2 XL motors + 2 L motors – servo steering coupled to working steering wheel + working rear spoiler + rear diffusor winglets – remotely openable wing doors driven by 1 M motor – manual door selector (screenwiper) – self engeneered working 12 cylinder fake engine – flash lights mode - pole reverser coupled to engine – separate manual coupling for engine & pole reverser – manually openable rear hood – 6 pairs LED lights engaging by 2 different functions & circuits – control by 2 sets control units & IR V2 receivers – powered by 2 LiPo batteries with easy charge access The car is to 97% finished now and has some flaws, so another year left to finish it ;-). But this weekend I will try to make a YT video of it as it is to show the functions. There is also a small LDD file for the drivertrain available on my brickshelf account (folder not public today). I won´t make instructions for the car, maybe only complete the LDD for the chassis and the functions only. Enjoy! brunojj1 Edited October 10, 2015 by brunojj1 Quote
Freekysch Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 The shape is amazing ! Imho, one of the best Ferarri MOCs out there :thumbup: . I want to see more pics ! Quote
jantjeuh Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Amazing shape, but the use of so many small liftarms/bricks makes it look quite 'busy'. It's more like a work of art! Quote
Jeroen Ottens Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Wow that is a lot of angles... It looks very sleek and with the number of functions you included it must be jam packed inside. Very interesting V12 motor, I'll have a look at the LDD to see how you did that it looks really scaled right. With all the little red pieces it does look a bit like a Transformer robot. I am not sold on it immediately. Of course the body work is closed like you aimed for, but this jumble of pieces does distract from the overall flow as well (look at Nathaniel's Predator for the opposite side of the spectrum). Still, a very, very beautiful model Quote
Lipko Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) I was about to ask about your avatar some day, but I though you will post about it. The shape is amazing but a little bit too much liftarms for my taste. Anyway, I'm building a supercar too (I'm not sure if it will be custom or some specific). Just got the sequential gear selector working. 2015 will be the year of big butts and Lego supercars Edited March 13, 2015 by Lipko Quote
brunojj1 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Amazing shape, but the use of so many small liftarms/bricks makes it look quite 'busy'. It's more like a work of art! Wow that is a lot of angles... It looks very sleek and with the number of functions you included it must be jam packed inside. Very interesting V12 motor, I'll have a look at the LDD to see how you did that it looks really scaled right. With all the little red pieces it does look a bit like a Transformer robot. I am not sold on it immediately. Of course the body work is closed like you aimed for, but this jumble of pieces does distract from the overall flow as well (look at Nathaniel's Predator for the opposite side of the spectrum). Still, a very, very beautiful model I was about to ask about your avatar some day, but I though you will post about it. The shape is amazing but a little bit too much liftarms for my taste. Anyway, I'm building a supercar too (I'm not sure if it will be custom or some specific). Just got the sequential gear selector working. 2015 will be the year of big butts and Lego supercars I`m not sold on it either, but thanks for the honest comments! Too many compromises were to make especially at the front bodywork. Anyway the small parts sticking some gaps are part of the concept which is quite risky and has gone too far somewhere. The parts & sections have to please from many different view angles at once. Supercars like the Predator has another concept and building style behind it. Maybe I should switch to something different for the next one. Edited March 13, 2015 by brunojj1 Quote
LeocornoProductions Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Very good, but I agree it does look quite busy and might result in excess weight. But I still think its fantastic, possibly Hof I think. And now my upcoming p1 mk2 has got too much competition from this car alone XD very clever drivetrain you have pioneered there, and that's a clever self made v12. Does it result in the engine making its own noise? If it does then that's really cool. Quote
brunojj1 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Very good, but I agree it does look quite busy and might result in excess weight. But I still think its fantastic, possibly Hof I think. And now my upcoming p1 mk2 has got too much competition from this car alone XD very clever drivetrain you have pioneered there, and that's a clever self made v12. Does it result in the engine making its own noise? If it does then that's really cool. Thanks, Leo. I don´t intend to get to HOF somewhere or challenge somebody for competition. That´s why I made it different. The additional panels don´t count as weight, the most weight is given by the PF equipment which wasn´t easy to put into. The drivetrain setup was designed to be simple and fool proof like in my previous car. Some experiments were needed and I´m very happy with the resulting speed. No gears grinding. The 20 teeth gear at the differential (XL pair side) is supported by a Ø11,2 mm rim from the underside and acts like a bearing preventing gear scratching when changing the moving forward / backwards abruptly. It makes some slight noise driving backwards which I take for granted. ) Being motorized as heavily you don´t care about 10 grams total weight more or less. And higher indoor speed increases fun automatically, even if it is not much. Edited March 13, 2015 by brunojj1 Quote
Meatman Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I really like this, you captured the style perfectly. Having said that, I think the fact that you tried to fill every nook and cranny in makes it look a little overdone. Quote
Graydingo Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 The top down view is stunning. You captured the shape beautifully. I bet it does perform well. I've been wanting to try the xl plus L motor setup as well. I'm not keen on the wires running underneath. I know there is often little room to run above the chassis. You nailed the overall shape. I've got mixed feelings on gapless as well. On one hand its the only way you can really get specific shapes of a specific car. If you go with the limited panel shapes, flex axles and other, you get more of a representation of the car it seems. Love to see a video of it in action! So many super-cars lately! It's awesome. Quote
dougstar Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Seems like you have a load of interesting features. Please make that video:-) Quote
jorgeopesi Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 We need the video of course because it has much to teach yet. In my opinon perfect top and front view, many functions for its size, powerful (I have to watch the video) but many pieces for my taste, you know I do just the opposite . Your car give me an idea for a thread we will see different opinions. Today I work a lot in the car thread . Just one question, I am very detail, LaFerrari has the same width between wheels in front and rear axle?. Quote
Lakop Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Great model but it would look much better with some gaps down the sides. It's a bit blocky. i'm sure it can be re-worked. Otherwise it's a good looking Ferrari moc, the front, rear and the roof are great. H Quote
brunojj1 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 We need the video of course because it has much to teach yet. In my opinon perfect top and front view, many functions for its size, powerful (I have to watch the video) but many pieces for my taste, you know I do just the opposite . Your car give me an idea for a thread we will see different opinions. Today I work a lot in the car thread . Just one question, I am very detail, LaFerrari has the same width between wheels in front and rear axle?. I just saw the new thread and will comment it later maybe. Will need some days for the video to make it more interesting and comprehensive. Yes, the axles have the same width. I made the front narrower first, but the steering was a problem then. Great model but it would look much better with some gaps down the sides. It's a bit blocky. i'm sure it can be re-worked. Otherwise it's a good looking Ferrari moc, the front, rear and the roof are great. H I´m not sure what would look better, but thanks anyway. I knew the critics of the supercar experts to the bodywork would be hard and controversial . Quote
KirTech LAB Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Most of all I like the engine! It's something that miss official sets with 25-year producing standard piston engines... Great work! Quote
Meatman Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I just saw the new thread and will comment it later maybe. Will need some days for the video to make it more interesting and comprehensive. Yes, the axles have the same width. I made the front narrower first, but the steering was a problem then. I´m not sure what would look better, but thanks anyway. I knew the critics of the supercar experts to the bodywork would be hard and controversial . Your car is great, I just prefer a more natural Technic look. Quote
jorgeopesi Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I made the front narrower first, but the steering was a problem then. I like to know, when you can, what was the problem and not waste time if I try similar cars, any help is welcome for supercar. Quote
Paul Boratko Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I knew this wouldn't disappoint...! Excellent work...! Quote
brunojj1 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 I like to know, when you can, what was the problem and not waste time if I try similar cars, any help is welcome for supercar. The steering axle itself used at this car is nothing special. I used the 57515 steering arms. The narrow version´s left tire collided with the steering wheel connection. Why I considered a narrower front axle in general- only to come closer to the look of the real things. By the way, I didn´t use any Ackermann, McPherson, Caster Angle, King Pin inclination or whatsoever. The car doesn´t have enough seats to take all of these Gentlemen with you . Joking, these are doubtlessly advanced and interesting features getting closer to real things, but I hadn´t considered them to deliver a significant advantage for performance for my MOC. I wouldn´t state general conclusions from this car for supercars in general.I recommend to try out your best solution for your specific MOC, always the best way! Take your time and be patient ! Quote
Rishab N Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Awesome work you really made it look as realistic as possible. I love how you did the front with all those angles. Quote
Appie Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Looks really awesome. I like the combination of XL and L motors, very clean 'belly shot' and that custom v12. As others have said, it looks like a lot of liftarms, but personally I only mind it on the doors actually, it looks very 'busy' with all those thin liftarms. Otherwise I love the body work. Great work. Really looks like 2015 is the year of the supercar. Funny enough I have plans to make one as well, but currently working on a small project I wanted to do first :D Edited March 14, 2015 by Appie Quote
kamsohal Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 excellent model.well thought off.i would pay for the instructions. Quote
DrJB Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Very nice. You've captured the shape/lines and functions beautifully, and the design seems very compact (solid/full). However, I find the many small pieces distracting as they give the body a 'tiled' look. Maybe if it were in black it would not be too obvious. Again, just a personal 'opinion' that should not take away from such masterpiece. Edited March 14, 2015 by DrJB Quote
Coola1 Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Wow, looks awesome! Never thought anyone would make a custom engine before, really cool. Definitely would be great if you made a black version, put it together with the red in the picture for an awesome wallpaper! Quote
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