Future Star Wars Sets

[Bobsy]

Kashyyyk is pretty much a given, provided they can do an adequate mini-model of the Wookiee catamaran. Alternatively of course there could be a battle droid vehicle and a battle droid - SBDs are back in the mould again so that's a possibility. While I think everyone and their uncle would prefer a non-Chewbacca Wookiee, it depends if the mould's still in use.

[Zzz]

My absolute dream set is a new System-scale version of the Imperial Star Destroyer. Couple of studs shorter than the previous 6211 iteration, but with much more detail, features and better interior.

The 2009 version 8039 (CW Venator) had 1170 pieces and retailed for 120$.

6211, the only System-scale ISD had 1376 pieces and retailed for 100$. In fact, it was quite bigger than the later CW version.

Coming back to our new one, the timing should be right to release a new one pretty soon, as 2 UCS ones and one midi have been made already, and including the minis (or even not) we can sum up to a pretty solid fleet of SDs over the past 10 years. There is some demand in them and TLC seems to follow, so they hopefully deliver.

What I would like:

- scale inbetween the 2 mentioned above

- 1500 parts for roughly 160$ (as this shouldn't have that many new molds and pieces, it might be naive but I hope still fair to assume. Jabbas Palace and Rancor sets don't set the new standard for prices, as these have huge new pieces. Looking at the new MF, I hope we are still on that level.)

- can land on flat surface, having ramps and doors on sides to deploy troops.

- top opens like 8039

- includes Vader, 2 Officers, black R2, 4 Stormies, 2 Scouts, 2 speeder bikes (I know we all have dozens but it's still neat to include)

- interior includes bridge, Vaders chamber, small hangar and troop bay

In short, I would like the Empire to get a new, playable destroyer / dropship that you can actually play with. Simply having it in space and not landing is seriously boring, so let the ISD land, please, TLC! Besides the superb TIE fighter last year and the ok AT-AT in 2010, the Empire is not getting much support for System sets lately.

[Bobsy]

My absolute dream set is a new System-scale version of the Imperial Star Destroyer. Couple of studs shorter than the previous 6211 iteration, but with much more detail, features and better interior.

The 2009 version 8039 (CW Venator) had 1170 pieces and retailed for 120$.

6211, the only System-scale ISD had 1376 pieces and retailed for 100$. In fact, it was quite bigger than the later CW version.

Coming back to our new one, the timing should be right to release a new one pretty soon, as 2 UCS ones and one midi have been made already, and including the minis (or even not) we can sum up to a pretty solid fleet of SDs over the past 10 years. There is some demand in them and TLC seems to follow, so they hopefully deliver.

What I would like:

- scale inbetween the 2 mentioned above

- 1500 parts for roughly 160$ (as this shouldn't have that many new molds and pieces, it might be naive but I hope still fair to assume. Jabbas Palace and Rancor sets don't set the new standard for prices, as these have huge new pieces. Looking at the new MF, I hope we are still on that level.)

- can land on flat surface, having ramps and doors on sides to deploy troops.

- top opens like 8039

- includes Vader, 2 Officers, black R2, 4 Stormies, 2 Scouts, 2 speeder bikes (I know we all have dozens but it's still neat to include)

- interior includes bridge, Vaders chamber, small hangar and troop bay

In short, I would like the Empire to get a new, playable destroyer / dropship that you can actually play with. Simply having it in space and not landing is seriously boring, so let the ISD land, please, TLC! Besides the superb TIE fighter last year and the ok AT-AT in 2010, the Empire is not getting much support for System sets lately.

Exceeeeept...

ISDs were not able to land - physically they were simply to large to properly operate in atmosphere, and had no landing gear. In fact, the only Star Destroyer-esque ship I know of that was built for landing was the Acclamator Cruiser deployed at the start of the Clone Wars.

Oh yes, I'm wearing my SW nerd goggles and they fit BEAUTIFULLY I might add.

The shear size of your basic ISD is at once its defining feature and its biggest weakness with regards to merchandise. Other than the Mon Cal cruisers at the end of RotJ there was simply nothing that could meaningfully interact with an ISD that wasn't tiny by comparison. In Lego terms that means that whatever scale you build your Star Destroyer at, pretty much everything else that it can play with will be either out of scale or really, really small.

I have to say, I love the look of the original 2002 UCS Star Destroyer. It's excellently proportioned and detailed. Such a shame the construction techniques of the day were basically useless. The minifig-scaled-interior version that came later was more stable, but a far uglier beast.

I'd go for a new ISD, but since its play value is pretty minimal, I'd probably lean to a UCS model than a System model. Also, yes, we're DUE a new ISD, certainly.

[Zzz]

I bet I have seen comics where those beasts were landing, AT-ATs walking out - but I might be wrong. Still, since a normal System-scale playset cannot have space for dropships or TIEs inside, I still think my idea would make a lovely playset, even if not entirely accurate. But let's not care about accuracy, same as TLC when it's about making minifig versions of huge ships. (Remember Venator, Tantive IV or ISD, those were all full of mistakes but whatever - we need cool play features! And I better have an ISD that lands and deploys troops than some desks inside to use the immense play features of burocracy of the Empire or Rebel Alliance....)

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

Not trying to sound abrasive but why do a lot of fans predict/want remakes of sets that have already been done? The Star Wars universe is so expansive that there is a plethora of new sets that have never been done that can be made. I'm sick of AT-ATs and OT vehicles.

On a separate note, I can see a future set having a Darth Vader minifigure. It's been while since LEGO released one.

[Legokid98]

Does anyone think we will ever see a naboo royal starship ?

[UnknownClone]

Not trying to sound abrasive but why do a lot of fans predict/want remakes of sets that have already been done? The Star Wars universe is so expansive that there is a plethora of new sets that have never been done that can be made. I'm sick of AT-ATs and OT vehicles.

On a separate note, I can see a future set having a Darth Vader minifigure. It's been while since LEGO released one.

AT-AT's are from the OT btw

And the last vader I believe was from the Executor super star destroyer which is still in production but very expensive, so I agree a future cheaper set probably will come with a newer darth vader

However your sick of OT vehicles get alot of this years releases as most of them are either clone wars or PT with one old republic set which is classed as expanded universe I guess.

[TWP]

Does anyone think we will ever see a naboo royal starship ?

No. We will most likely see never one, I talked with a designer about it about a year ago.

[Legokid98]

Did he say why ?

[TWP]

Did he say why ?

Yes. first of all because it needs to be chrome, but that would make it too expensive for not so many pieces. Then I suggested they could make it grey, but he said that too wasn't possible, because the people at lucasArts (now Disney) would reject it, being not movie-accurate.

Too, it has many of difficult angles that are almost impossible in Lego form.

[Basteq]

Yes. first of all because it needs to be chrome, but that would make it too expensive for not so many pieces. Then I suggested they could make it grey, but he said that too wasn't possible, because the people at lucasArts (now Disney) would reject it, being not movie-accurate.

Too, it has many of difficult angles that are almost impossible in Lego form.

Naboo starfighter was made in grey and in chrome as UCS...

[jasbury]

Naboo starfighter was made in grey and in chrome as UCS...

He is referring to the Naboo royal cruiser, not the Naboo starfighter.

As for the Summer wave news, this sounds awesome! If Coleman Trebor is being released, I can't wait to pick him up! I find it surprising that Jango Fett would be in the corporate Alliance tank droid set. To my knowledge the tank droid was only in Ep. III while Jango was only in Ep. II.

[Anio]

Yes. first of all because it needs to be chrome, but that would make it too expensive for not so many pieces. Then I suggested they could make it grey, but he said that too wasn't possible, because the people at lucasArts (now Disney) would reject it, being not movie-accurate.

Too, it has many of difficult angles that are almost impossible in Lego form.

The shape is not such a big problem if you choose the appropriate scale.

But regarding the other reasons, yes, it seems difficult to achieve a Naboo Royal Starship as releasable and cheap product.

Edited January 3, 2013 by Anio

[Basteq]

He is referring to the Naboo royal cruiser, not the Naboo starfighter.

I know, But since they could do that one in chrome, it seems like a lame excuse for Royal Cruiser ;)

[Graysmith]

Darth Vader in an affordable set.

Hasn't happened since 2009 (8017), which means by next year (assuming there's no such set this year) it'll be five years that Darth Vader has only shown up in really expensive sets (that put him out of reach for all but the most spoiled kids). Personal preference would be a set of the Vader/Luke duel at Cloud City, since that's never been done except as a portion of the 2003 Cloud City set.

[DrasticPlastic]

Then I suggested they could make it grey, but he said that too wasn't possible, because the people at lucasArts (now Disney) would reject it, being not movie-accurate.

If accuracy was lucasfilm's concern it's unlikely we would have got blue TIE Fighters...if you're going to make stuff up, at least make it coherent!

A non chrome cruiser would be no more an issue than any of the thousands of other 'inaccuracies' in every set.

Remind me again, how accurate is the AT-RT...?

[jmagaletta]

If accuracy was lucasfilm's concern it's unlikely we would have got blue TIE Fighters...if you're going to make stuff up, at least make it coherent!

A non chrome cruiser would be no more an issue than any of the thousands of other 'inaccuracies' in every set.

Remind me again, how accurate is the AT-RT...?

Well the original toys of the Tie Fighters do have the Blue color and a lot of images, such as the main Tie picture on wwookiepedia can be argued that it is blue rather than grey. http://starwars.wiki.../LN_starfighter Also despite the scale of the AT-RT, it is pretty much a dead on representation of it.

Edited January 3, 2013 by jmagaletta

[jmagaletta]

My absolute dream set is a new System-scale version of the Imperial Star Destroyer. Couple of studs shorter than the previous 6211 iteration, but with much more detail, features and better interior.

I find this doubtful as they used 6211 in the trailer for the Yoda Chronicles. Which isnt much to go by, I know, but that did give us peeks at upcomming figs/ships.

[Aanchir]

I know, But since they could do that one in chrome, it seems like a lame excuse for Royal Cruiser ;)

That had exactly twelve chrome pieces. Most of the Naboo royal vessels are ENTIRELY chrome, and as such only a Mini set could likely be produced at the same cost. And who knows if demand for mini versions would actually be able to subsidize the cost of chroming so many parts?

As for TIE fighters and other models having so many inaccuracies, it can't be forgotten that the most distinctive aspects of TIE fighters (and truly, most starfighters) is their shape. The most distinctive aspect of the Naboo royal vessels is their chromed surface. Even if Lucasfilms gave the OK to a grey one, who's to say there would be a lot of demand for a ship like that which had such a glaring inaccuracy?

You can't treat all inaccuracies as equal because neither Lucasfilms nor the consumer thinks of them as equal. A Droideka that can't actually roll into a wheel can still be made recognizable as a Droideka, whereas an X-Wing that can't fold its S-foils open is laughable.

[strangely]

Yes. first of all because it needs to be chrome, but that would make it too expensive for not so many pieces. Then I suggested they could make it grey, but he said that too wasn't possible, because the people at lucasArts (now Disney) would reject it, being not movie-accurate.

Too, it has many of difficult angles that are almost impossible in Lego form.

I don't think those reasons make that much sense. I mean why does it need to be chrome? When Lego's are new they shine and reflect like crazy. On the standpoint of accuracy I think that's remarkably close. Even the crappy versions Hasbro has put out have been a dull grey (Their not reflective in any way like the mirror look of the ship). If Lucas cared about accuracy that much than the Hasbro versions would have been flagged for not mimicking the mirror like surface. Plus it's not like Lego portrays everything so accurately. Look at Anakin's podracer. In the movie that thing was chrome and blue, in the set it's a dark grey and blue, even the shape isn't that accurate and yet that passed? It just doesn't feel like accuracy is that important when we get inaccurate stuff regularly.

Also the angles aren't impossible in Lego. In fact that ship (And it's episode specific variations including clone wars) have been featured in the video games several times, built with real bricks even. Lego even built a version of it in grey for that SW prequel video they made a while back. A quick Google search shows dozens of fan made versions, obviously it's not that impossible to make those angles.

These just seem like weak excuses.

[Basteq]

I don't think those reasons make that much sense. I mean why does it need to be chrome? When Lego's are new they shine and reflect like crazy. On the standpoint of accuracy I think that's remarkably close. Even the crappy versions Hasbro has put out have been a dull grey (Their not reflective in any way like the mirror look of the ship). If Lucas cared about accuracy that much than the Hasbro versions would have been flagged for not mimicking the mirror like surface. Plus it's not like Lego portrays everything so accurately. Look at Anakin's podracer. In the movie that thing was chrome and blue, in the set it's a dark grey and blue, even the shape isn't that accurate and yet that passed? It just doesn't feel like accuracy is that important when we get inaccurate stuff regularly.

The colors aren't the strong side of lego ;) Not seeking far, look at all TIEs. They found out after 10 years they should be grey, not blue... ;)

[Anio]

I mean why does it need to be chrome?

Imagine it is grey.

https://www.youtube....BYOetv38

It would suck. Really.

Edited January 3, 2013 by Anio

[wesker]

The Hasbro playset looked just fine in grey.

[strangely]

The Hasbro playset looked just fine in grey.

Indeed it does. Lego doesn't need a chrome version. Sure as a UCS I can understand wanting it to be chrome. Those sets are supposed to be as accurate as possible and whatnot. But we don't need another UCS. We need a regular play oriented set.

A grey version would be fine for just a regular set. A $70 set with a pilot, handmaiden Padme, Sabe in queen disguise and a droid would be perfect.

Edited January 4, 2013 by strangely

[North Lego Star]

Since we recently got some more information about the Summer Wave sets, It got me thinking about 2014, so here are my predictions for 2014...

Winter Wave-

-Phase II Clone Trooper vs. Gunner Droid Battle Pack: Phase II Clone Trooper, Shock Trooper, Gunner Droidx2, CIS Armored Scout Tank-12.99$

-Rebel Trooper vs. Imperial Forces Battle Pack: Rebel Trooper, Rebel Commander, Stromtrooper, Imperial Jet Trooper, Imperial Sand Tank, Rebel Swoop Bike-12.99$

-Onderon Rebel Speeder: Saw Gerrera, Onderon Rebel, King Ramsis Dendup-19.99$

-Naboo Flash Speeder: Captain Panaka, Naboo Royal Guard, Obi-Wan Kenobi-24.99$

-TIE Bomber: TIE Bomber Pilot, Admirial Piett, Imperial RA-7 Droid-49.99$

-Droid Gunship: Steela Gerrera, Lux Bonteri, Ahsoka Tano, General Kalani-59.99$

-Toys R Us Exclusive Battle of Kashyyyk- Luminara Unduli, Battle Droid Commander, Battle Droidx2, Wookie Warrior, Tarful, Dwarf Spider Droid, Wookiee Ornithopter, Beach Trenches-49.99$

-Target Exclusive Padme's Naboo Royal Starship: Padme, Anakin, R2-D2, C-3PO-49.99$

-Walmart Exclusive AT-ST Walker: AT-ST Driver, Imperial Commander, Rebel Commando, Romba, Ewok Catapult-24.99$

Summer Wave-

-Bespin Cloud Car: Lobot, Cloud Car Pilot, Bespin Guard, Lando Calrissian-24.99$

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-Seperatist Tri Droid: Magna Guardx2, Ki-Adi Mundi-49.99$

-Imperial Shuttle: Emperor Palpatine, Imperial Shuttle Pilot, Imperial Royal Guardx2-69.99$

-Republic UT-AT: Commander Baraca, Galtaic Marinex2, Clone Gunnerx2-89.99$

-Mos Eisley Cantina: Luke, Obi-Wan, Han Solo, Greedo, Dr. Evazan, Ponda, Bith Band Memberx2, Sandtrooper, Dewback-119.99$

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-Toys R Us Exclusive Ewok Villiage: Endor Luke, Ewok Village Leia, C-3PO, Wicket, Teebo, Chief Chipra, Darth Vader, Spirit Anakin-109.99$

-Target Exclusive Chase Through Utapau: Obi-Wan, General Grevious, Commander Cody, Wheel Bike, Boga-39.99$

-Walmart Exclusive T-16 Skyhopper: Skyhopper Pilot, Jawa, Swoop Biker on Swoop Bike, Ronto-49.99$

-Lego Exclusive UCS Jedi Interceptor with Hyper-Boost Ring-159.99$

-Lego Exclusive Jawa Sandcrawler: Jawax4, C-3PO, R2-D2, R5-D4, RA-7 Droid, GNK Droid, Service Droid, Luke, Uncle Owen-199.99$

I'm having some trouble thinking of sets for my missing spots, so if you have any ideas I'd be glad to hear them! Thanks For Reading!

Edited January 6, 2013 by North Lego Star