Future Star Wars Sets

[Spyderlord]

3. Episode VII, Expect 2015 to be laser focused on Ep VII. Probably a teaser or two by summer and most of a wave come movie release.

I think summer 2014 is really the last point where we may be seeing some surprises, or possibly still some PT focus for awhile. Even then I suspect that the chances of obscure PT subjects may be decreasing quickly.

No, I don't think so. Episode VII has been pushed to December 18, from marketing standpoint it makes zero sense to start making sets based on that movie before Winter 2016 (which would most definitely see an early release in December!)

I'm even unsure if TLG had time to prepare for Rebels and devise a marketing strategy for the upcoming Summer wave 2014. There would be two good months difference between July sets release and Rebels premiere (end September), and although there was some gap in 2008 when The Clone Wars was due (the movie premiered mid-August), it was easier to bridge it, and it was a theatrical release, unlike Rebels (simply more coverage).

I believe we'll have a balanced RoTS, CW and OT release in Summer 2014, a heavily OT and Rebels based 2015 in both waves and then the fanfare for Winter 2016...

Isn't she in the Police Gunship set? I forget the price on that one?

Yes, but honestly, though I really love CW, I can't abide by that obscure childish vehicle with zero SW vibe to it (translucent red, wth?! ). I'll skip it, and bricklink Ahsoka if they don't put her in a nicer CW set in the summer wave It's not even the matter of price, just that the sets she appears in are not very appealing to me...

[legolandia]

That's the understatement of the year. That came out when I was contemplating my return from the dark ages so I just missed it. I'd get it on day of release now.

My biggest regret in Lego was missing out on that beast!

I wouldnt worry too much. The x-wing set the precedent that the same vehicle can be done twice by Lego in UCS version so I am quite sure that the Millennium Falcon (SW's hottest ship) will certainly appear again as a UCS set.

[Spyderlord]

I wouldnt worry too much. The x-wing set the precedent that the same vehicle can be done twice by Lego in UCS version so I am quite sure that the Millennium Falcon (SW's hottest ship) will certainly appear again as a UCS set.

Especially given that they are making a full-scale replica of that ship with full interior this time in the UK for the Episode VII

[Faefrost]

Especially given that they are making a full-scale replica of that ship with full interior this time in the UK for the Episode VII

So we will finally have an official Falcon where the inside matches the outside? Woot! Virtually unheard of in SciFi ships, but woot nonetheless.

[Merc4hire95]

I doubt TLG would make another UCS Falcon since its only been about 5-6 years since the first one but it sold very well so at the same time I can see them remaking it especially for the upcoming epi.7. If the ship does come with full interior that matches its exterior, the price point would atleast increase by another 50-80 U.S dollars and considering the 2007 model was 500 U.S$, that price, with taxes, would hit at-least or over 600$. That isn't very appealing, I would honestly prefer a improved model of the 7965 with all new epi.7 figures.

[Robianco]

I remember reading in one of the expanded universe books that the Falcon was fixed up to perfect condition once Han was royalty and the Rebel Alliance was essentially in power... the Falcon was white in that I seem to remember... rather than a dirty grey.

I actually think a reworking of the 7965 would be more pointless than a new UCS version. Then again I'm not sure of the cycle of revamped models. Snowspeeders are tweaked all the time... 7965 is only 2 years old?

Mind you... a ROTJ falcon with Lando and Nien Numb wouldn't be out of the question... Any call for a size between 7965 and UCS?

[Merc4hire95]

I remember reading in one of the expanded universe books that the Falcon was fixed up to perfect condition once Han was royalty and the Rebel Alliance was essentially in power... the Falcon was white in that I seem to remember... rather than a dirty grey.

I actually think a reworking of the 7965 would be more pointless than a new UCS version. Then again I'm not sure of the cycle of revamped models. Snowspeeders are tweaked all the time... 7965 is only 2 years old?

Mind you... a ROTJ falcon with Lando and Nien Numb wouldn't be out of the question... Any call for a size between 7965 and UCS?

Retail or the general wave of sets released every year are constantly being revamped despite the models release date. The UCS on the other hand isn't intended to be sold to there general consumer. With a series as highly invested as UCS, they focus on providing new models annually because for one there are virtually perfect and the price point is set much higher. To remake a UCS model of the Falcon with minor improvements will not sell well, ergo low profits, no investment. Now with general retail sets, the Falcon can be remade several times and will at-least remain in there expected sales rate. My point is a ROTJ Falcon slightly bigger than 7965 but still smaller than UCS is a possible future set for 2015-2016.

Edited December 9, 2013 by Merc4hire95

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that the UCS Millenium Falcon (10179) didn't sell all that well, which prompted LEGO to have such a large sale when it came time to retire that set. It wasn't until after that sale and retirement that 10179 became so highly sought after. My son and I had just broken into LEGO at the time and I purchased a couple at the sale price.

[Legoman123]

I don't think it is going to be too long until we see a list of the summer sets. I personally think this wave is going to be very heavily based around ANH and ESB.

[Merc4hire95]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that the UCS Millenium Falcon (10179) didn't sell all that well, which prompted LEGO to have such a large sale when it came time to retire that set. It wasn't until after that sale and retirement that 10179 became so highly sought after. My son and I had just broken into LEGO at the time and I purchased a couple at the sale price.

All sets have a retire date, especially UCS. By a certain period, they will already have sold there expected sale projections. By the point that the majority or expected sales of there targeted consumers have purchased the model set, sales by that point will only drop in time to the point the investment is not worth that smaller profit. With there amount sold, they move on to the next model set, that way fans can continue to expand there collection, at TLG gets there millions.

[Spyderlord]

All sets have a retire date, especially UCS. By a certain period, they will already have sold there expected sale projections. By the point that the majority or expected sales of there targeted consumers have purchased the model set, sales by that point will only drop in time to the point the investment is not worth that smaller profit. With there amount sold, they move on to the next model set, that way fans can continue to expand there collection, at TLG gets there millions.

Tell that to the Death Star

But, joke aside, it is a healthy business logic ofc, the above set is just the exception that confirms the rule.

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

All sets have a retire date, especially UCS. By a certain period, they will already have sold there expected sale projections. By the point that the majority or expected sales of there targeted consumers have purchased the model set, sales by that point will only drop in time to the point the investment is not worth that smaller profit. With there amount sold, they move on to the next model set, that way fans can continue to expand there collection, at TLG gets there millions.

I understand everything you've written as far as retiring sets, etc. Everything you've stated is a given. Let me finish my thought as I was in a rush when I posted. If a new UCS Millennium Falcon is released, I'm really not too sure how well it would sell. The 10179 UCS Falcon sold from Oct 2007 to May 2010. At the end of the run, it didn't sell all that well and LEGO discounted it pretty well to clear out remaining stock. Demand increased after the set retired driving prices to its current level. If the original didn't do too well during its regular release I'm not sure how well a new UCS Falcon would do. The MSRP would definitely be higher and fans that already have 10179 may be reluctant to drop $400+ on a new release. I would probably pass unless I was able to get it at a heavily discounted price. What do others think?

[legolandia]

I understand everything you've written as far as retiring sets, etc. Everything you've stated is a given. Let me finish my thought as I was in a rush when I posted. If a new UCS Millennium Falcon is released, I'm really not too sure how well it would sell. The 10179 UCS Falcon sold from Oct 2007 to May 2010. At the end of the run, it didn't sell all that well and LEGO discounted it pretty well to clear out remaining stock. Demand increased after the set retired driving prices to its current level. If the original didn't do too well during its regular release I'm not sure how well a new UCS Falcon would do. The MSRP would definitely be higher and fans that already have 10179 may be reluctant to drop $400+ on a new release. I would probably pass unless I was able to get it at a heavily discounted price. What do others think?

If Lego applied that logic then they would have not released another x-wing UCS set.

I think MF would do really well even at an increased price point. You need to take into account the large increase in the number of LSW fans since the first MF UCS was released. Plus the fact that the MF will feature heavily (I'm guessing) in the Rebels series and SW VII film. Releasing a new MF UCS set in 2015-16 would make very much sense. I'd certainly buy one even at the $600 price point (which is not a lot when you consider that it would probably have almost double the number of pieces of the SSD UCS).

[Inzane]

fans that already have 10179 may be...

pissed, that TLG would re-release another ultimate COLLECTOR series set. Grrr..

[Spyderlord]

I understand everything you've written as far as retiring sets, etc. Everything you've stated is a given. Let me finish my thought as I was in a rush when I posted. If a new UCS Millennium Falcon is released, I'm really not too sure how well it would sell. The 10179 UCS Falcon sold from Oct 2007 to May 2010. At the end of the run, it didn't sell all that well and LEGO discounted it pretty well to clear out remaining stock. Demand increased after the set retired driving prices to its current level. If the original didn't do too well during its regular release I'm not sure how well a new UCS Falcon would do. The MSRP would definitely be higher and fans that already have 10179 may be reluctant to drop $400+ on a new release. I would probably pass unless I was able to get it at a heavily discounted price. What do others think?

Well, I think that 2008-2012 were the years with some amazing Lego Star Wars sets around that probably drew out a lot of '80s generations from their Dark Ages (me included, and I know of others around me), therefore the market is much larger then in 2007 (I believe Eurobricks membership statistics would be revealing in that respect...)

Also, from a technical point of view, Lego made quite some molding and printing breakthroughs in the recent years, and this is reflected in whole more accurate models. What I'm trying to say is that if a new UCS MF was released it would be mindbogglingly more accurate (as in would actually have a cockpit ) and sleeker looking then the original with lower piece count (and higher price ).

But, not everything speaks in favor of a re-release, economic crisis is taking its toll on people's buying power, fewer can afford to drop 400 bucks on a toy (blasphemy, I know )

So will they do it? Without a doubt, IMHO. To somewhat the same purpose as in 2007: a statement. Like an X-Wing on Times Square. And I think we all have a pretty good idea when exactly

How will it fare? Difficult to say But, with the accumulated experience and data, as well as the vastly improved marketing, I think they darn well know what they are doing now.

Edited December 9, 2013 by Spyderlord

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

I wasn't into LEGO when the original UCS X-Wing was on sale. Anyone know how well the 10240 X-Wing is selling this time around? Any predictions on how long it will sell for? I would really like one but I'm waiting until the price is right.

If the Millennium Falcon is still around and a primary ship in the Sequel Trilogy, I will be disappointed. The Star Wars universe is too expansive to feature the same ship again.

[Spyderlord]

The Star Wars universe is too expansive to feature the same ship again.

I agree, but you need a link to tease the collective subconscious of the audience, and I don't see a better candidate for that than MF. Besides, I don't think they are making a real size version of the ship with full interior in the UK just for kicks

Edited December 9, 2013 by Spyderlord

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

Time will tell. The fact that it's SW should be enough. No need to re-use iconic vehicles from the past to promote the movie of the future. Personally I would like to see new ships and vehicles. I never imagined another SW trilogy in my lifetime and soon it'll be a reality.

Edited December 9, 2013 by Sir_Basil_Ashton

[Robianco]

I think the Falcon outlives any particular character and is an essential part of the SW universe.

It appeared in the PT and it'll almost definitely appear in the next trilogy. Whether TLG decide to make another model is up to them.

[Faefrost]

I think one of the more common complaints about the PT, particularly ep I was that the ships didn't feel particularly Star Wars like. They seemed a little too unfamiliar. It would not surprise me if they split the difference for the new movies. Lots of nice new stuff, with a few aging familiar designs to anchor them.

I don't think we will see a new UCS Falcon unless there are some major redesigns such as a new color or paint scheme. Something to make a new version attractive to a broader audience. But I think a new retail minifig scale MF is a given. The X Wing, Tie Fighter and MF are the core ships of the SW line. And much like City's Fire and Police stations will never be unavailable in some new form for long.

[Merc4hire95]

I think one of the more common complaints about the PT, particularly ep I was that the ships didn't feel particularly Star Wars like. They seemed a little too unfamiliar. It would not surprise me if they split the difference for the new movies. Lots of nice new stuff, with a few aging familiar designs to anchor them.

I don't think we will see a new UCS Falcon unless there are some major redesigns such as a new color or paint scheme. Something to make a new version attractive to a broader audience. But I think a new retail minifig scale MF is a given. The X Wing, Tie Fighter and MF are the core ships of the SW line. And much like City's Fire and Police stations will never be unavailable in some new form for long.

This is a first I have heard about PT ship complaints. Back in 2005 to 2007 in the star wars forums, many fans actually loved the ships and artillery from the PT. The only difference I always saw between the PT and OT vehicles were the increase of markings and color. With the new trilogy coming out to be stand alone films, I actually expect that the vehicles are going to be different and unique from the current saga ships we already have. Which I hope they do because I would love to see new sets instead of more remakes of the saga. A few remakes of fan favorites, but after that I'm hoping Rebels and Epi.7 will bring TLG with some new material.

Edited December 10, 2013 by Merc4hire95

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

I think the Falcon outlives any particular character and is an essential part of the SW universe.

It appeared in the PT and it'll almost definitely appear in the next trilogy. Whether TLG decide to make another model is up to them.

The Falcon did appear in the PT but it was a meaningless appearance. Not enough to warrant the Falcon being released as a PT set. Remember, E.T. was in the PT as well.

[Spyderlord]

Wow, I considered myself a SW fan, yet I never noticed the Falcon in PT until I just googled it. It must be the most ridiculous cameo ever, they could have at least thrown a full close-up for a moment if they wanted to warm OT fans' hearts, not throw some random flying object landing at Senate building in a corner of one frame...

Oh btw @Faefrost, you meant a new playset, coz minifig scale Falcon is acually the UCS... I would hope for a complete redesign UCS with newer pieces (cockpit!), without necessarily changing the color scheme, I like it in light grey very much...

[gazumpty]

I agree with some of above....some TIE defenders and definitely some modular builds :D...what about another X-Wing :P *snigger*

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

I don't think we will see a new UCS Falcon unless there are some major redesigns such as a new color or paint scheme. Something to make a new version attractive to a broader audience.

Completely agree with you. Although I'm opposed to it, if LEGO were to make an updated UCS Falcon I would expect to see some new elements.