Future Star Wars Sets

[Fives]

I'm hoping the rumors of Stormies in EpVII are false; I love the Empire, but let it die! It should've floundered and decayed without the Sith running things, like in the EU, and not be a threat 30 years later. Then we could get NEW baddies (and their troops) in VII.

While it would be fun to see new bad guys, it actually makes no logical sense. Just because a small organized group of rebels, who represent a very small portion of the galaxy's population and viewpoint, destroy a battle station and kill the two main leaders doesn't mean that an entire galactic government crumbles and something better appears in its place. My guess is that after Vader and Palpatine died, all the other head honchos on Coruscant would've worked together a come up with a plan to keep the Empire in place. A reinstatement of Imperial Inquisitors could potentially be part of this, and also gives credence to the rumours that Gwendoline Christie will be playing a saber-weilding Imperial Commander and would also explain why Luke must've disappeared for his own safety.

Like Sidious predicted in ROTS, "If the Jedi are not all destroyed, it will be civil war without end."

Sorry, this may be better placed in the Star Wars topic. I just felt it was relevant here.

[Venkefedo]

I agree about the micro fighters, but I'm not sure about the new bad guys. Is episode VII going to acknowledge the already written EU, or ignore it completely? The new x wing in episode VII isn't a Z-95 at all. It is based off of the Ralph McQurrie X wing art, in which the circles split on the x wing. The Z-95 should still be cannon, since it was in TCW. I would prefer if we just got pretty generic characters in the micro fighters. I'm sure if they made some thing with a stormie in it, It would sell tremendously. That was kinda the idea for the planet sets, and I see these as an evolution of those.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough... The Clone Wars Z-95 is still canon, but the versions from the rest of the EU aren't... Those designs were generally based on the McQuarrie X-wing, while TCW's only used the McQ one as a design springboard. Tons of folks responded to the X-wing in the video by stubbornly calling it a Z-95--which it was, before the whole "EU is now Legends"--but now only TCW's version is canon.

AFAIK, the EU as a whole is being ignored in the sequels, tho I hope elements will continue to bleed into it as they have since the SEs. Like, no Thrawn (since 30 years later is too late to bring him in) but maybe the Chiss show up as a species, maybe one is a secondary character. That kinda thing. But I'm still hoping for new, non-Imperial baddies. Leave the Imps to the REBELS series & the Lego sets based on it (and the OT).

[Mahtion]

While it would be fun to see new bad guys, it actually makes no logical sense. Just because a small organized group of rebels, who represent a very small portion of the galaxy's population and viewpoint, destroy a battle station and kill the two main leaders doesn't mean that an entire galactic government crumbles and something better appears in its place. My guess is that after Vader and Palpatine died, all the other head honchos on Coruscant would've worked together a come up with a plan to keep the Empire in place. A reinstatement of Imperial Inquisitors could potentially be part of this, and also gives credence to the rumours that Gwendoline Christie will be playing a saber-weilding Imperial Commander and would also explain why Luke must've disappeared for his own safety.

Like Sidious predicted in ROTS, "If the Jedi are not all destroyed, it will be civil war without end."

Sorry, this may be better placed in the Star Wars topic. I just felt it was relevant here.

Very good points. I like this line of thinking and it makes perfect sense considering how force users are always a threat, whether Jedi or not. I like the idea of a hollow victory. That the emperor died and Vader but the Rebels have not been able to provide a stable alternative for galactic rule. It could be that imperial agents or Inquisitors are undermining the Alliance and making them appear weak so that the galaxy does not trust their authority. It could a role reversal while at the same time allowing a legitimate threat behind the scenes in a form of shadow war. On the outside the Alliance is governing the Republic but behind the scenes the Imperials are terrorists and subverters. Luke could be harassed and hunted so the Jedi do not come back and with it the new fully powerful Republic as of old. Without a centralized Republic and the Jedi the civil war will continue and the Empire has a chance. Brilliant!

I think going off rebels "he's not a Sith" inquisitor that the enemies in sequels will be a mix of imperial officer and Jedi Hunter.

I very much think that imperial remnants will be ruled by grand moffs who won't give up their systems to the alliance meaning a unified republic is impossible

[Fives]

Very good points. I like this line of thinking and it makes perfect sense considering how force users are always a threat, whether Jedi or not. I like the idea of a hollow victory. That the emperor died and Vader but the Rebels have not been able to provide a stable alternative for galactic rule. It could be that imperial agents or Inquisitors are undermining the Alliance and making them appear weak so that the galaxy does not trust their authority. It could a role reversal while at the same time allowing a legitimate threat behind the scenes in a form of shadow war. On the outside the Alliance is governing the Republic but behind the scenes the Imperials are terrorists and subverters. Luke could be harassed and hunted so the Jedi do not come back and with it the new fully powerful Republic as of old. Without a centralized Republic and the Jedi the civil war will continue and the Empire has a chance. Brilliant!

I think going off rebels "he's not a Sith" inquisitor that the enemies in sequels will be a mix of imperial officer and Jedi Hunter.

I very much think that imperial remnants will be ruled by grand moffs who won't give up their systems to the alliance meaning a unified republic is impossible

I also believe that morality has a major part to play in this new trilogy. Lucas himself said that the PT was supposed to be about how societies change, the OT about how people can change (Vader's redemption), and the sequels are about questioning moral standards.

This falls in line with the rumour of Boyega's characters being a defected Stormie looking for a new path. Also, it could help support this idea that the war is still raging. For the most part, the populace of the Empire is unaware of the war between the Sith and Jedi, and people rarely make the distinction between the two. Having this rebel group messing up with an already established government system may not sit well with many people, and could plunge the entire galaxy into a moral war: are the Rebels really doing the right thing for the galaxy, or is the Empire doing a decent enough job and people don't care? It's very interesting.

I also believe that the Sith, in the traditional sense, will not be the villains of the new trilogy, and we will see many more people like the Inquisitor and Agent Kallus. They said that Rebels would link to EP 7, and I think those may be the links.

[Pointblank]

I also believe that the Sith, in the traditional sense, will not be the villains of the new trilogy, and we will see many more people like the Inquisitor and Agent Kallus. They said that Rebels would link to EP 7, and I think those may be the links.

Rebels is set between episode III and IV, to link to episode VII might be very remote or difficult, without having to disrupt the much loved OT.

I am almost certain that episode VII will feature a new Sith Villian, albeit a small role in the grander scheme of 7,8,9 - much like Darth Maul in Phantom. But a Star Wars movie without a Jedi (protagonist) and Sith (antagonist) characters wont feel like a Star Wars movie at all. I'm not saying it won't work story-wise, but Disney is all about making tons of money, and I doubt they will allow that. That's potentially millions in dollars loss in light saber toy sales ( who wants a rainbow coloured light saber by [xxxx] character ) :)

[Mahtion]

I also believe that morality has a major part to play in this new trilogy. Lucas himself said that the PT was supposed to be about how societies change, the OT about how people can change (Vader's redemption), and the sequels are about questioning moral standards.

This falls in line with the rumour of Boyega's characters being a defected Stormie looking for a new path. Also, it could help support this idea that the war is still raging. For the most part, the populace of the Empire is unaware of the war between the Sith and Jedi, and people rarely make the distinction between the two. Having this rebel group messing up with an already established government system may not sit well with many people, and could plunge the entire galaxy into a moral war: are the Rebels really doing the right thing for the galaxy, or is the Empire doing a decent enough job and people don't care? It's very interesting.

I also believe that the Sith, in the traditional sense, will not be the villains of the new trilogy, and we will see many more people like the Inquisitor and Agent Kallus. They said that Rebels would link to EP 7, and I think those may be the links.

Exactly it's not about how many ships you destroy or bases you conquer, it's about winning the heart of the people of the galaxy at large. In the last 60 years, the galaxy has been embroiled in corruption and war. The republic fell because it proved ineffective and was perceived as obsolete. The Jedi were branded traitors. Then the empire came and things got much worse for average people. With the authoritarian rule of the Empire weakened, citizens are not willing to simply embrace the old, arguably failed Republic. They need time to decide and for each system it may be preference to side with the Alliance or the Imperials. Enter Luke and the new generation to teach the galaxy what the Republic means and what the Jedi stand for once again.

You are correct to say that the general populace do not understand the Jedi vs Sith. They barely knew what the Jedi were unless they lived on Coruscant and even then the planet is so large they may go there entire life without visiting the temple or understanding the order. They certainly have no knowledge of Dooku or Palpatine as Sith Lords. They will only recall the Clone Wars and the traitor Jedi and now the son of Vader wants to reestablish a failed system of superstitions and hockey religions. Why should they trust either the Alliance or the new Jedi?

[TheWolffe]

I'm hoping the rumors of Stormies in EpVII are false; I love the Empire, but let it die! It should've floundered and decayed without the Sith running things, like in the EU, and not be a threat 30 years later. Then we could get NEW baddies (and their troops) in VII.

While the storm troopers will most likely be re-appearing. I hope they have a new look. Don't get me wrong stormies look great, but I want to see something at least a little different. New helmet design or something that shows a collapsed empire or their control of individual systems influenced different armor design/colors. Then I'd be more then happy to buy the LEGO versions of them

Edited July 25, 2014 by TheWolffe

[Venkefedo]

Someone pointed out that it looks like Kanan has dark brown hair in the Wookiee gunship set while in the Ghost set it kinda looks like his hair is black (I don't have it yet and BL hasn't posted inventories of all the figures). Someone else wondered in the Rumors thread if Ezra might get blue hair; I'm kind hoping they do give him (dark) blue hair in a future set. It's a little odd, but could be a fun piece to use. Perhaps in that future set he'll also get a new element to serve as his unique saber hilt?

[AudiBobaR5-D2]

EU/Legends

Darth Vader's Sith Starfighter - Darth Vader, R4-K5 - 39.99 (both based on 9494 and 75038)

Mace Windu's ETA-2 Jedi Starfighter - Mace Windu, R4-M6 - 39.99

Grey Imperial Venator Star Destroyer - Clone Stormtroopers (Phase II armor with Imperial emblem) x 10, 3 Imperial Officers, 1 Imperial Admiral, Protocol Droid, Astromech Droid, Royal Guard x 4 - 79.99

Edited August 1, 2014 by AudiBobaR5-D2

[Captain Settle]

EU/Legends

Darth Vader's Sith Starfighter - Darth Vader, R4-K5 - 39.99 (both based on 9494 and 75038)

Mace Windu's ETA-2 Jedi Starfighter - Mace Windu, R4-M6 - 39.99

Grey Imperial Venator Star Destroyer - Clone Stormtroopers (Phase II armor with Imperial emblem) x 10, 3 Imperial Officers, 1 Imperial Admiral, Protocol Droid, Astromech Droid, Royal Guard x 4 - 79.99

Sorry to say it but I doubt we'll ever get 20 mini figs in a £80/$80 set. I see that set as having x2 stormtroopers, 1 officer, 1 Admiral, either a Protocal droid or an Astromech droid and x2 Royal guards.

[Venkefedo]

Those prices for the Vader starfighter and Mace's Eta-2 seem a bit high. Shouldn't they be closer to $24.99 like 75038? Especially with only the pilot and droid.

...I'd love to see those fighters, tho. They were two of my favorites from the Hasbro line!

[AwesomeBantha]

Those prices for the Vader starfighter and Mace's Eta-2 seem a bit high. Shouldn't they be closer to $24.99 like 75038? Especially with only the pilot and droid.

...I'd love to see those fighters, tho. They were two of my favorites from the Hasbro line!

Well, yes, they are a bit high.

But Anakin is a very popular and beloved character among the younger SW fans-therefore the set is very easily sold.

In order to sell a set with Mace Windu, a cool but not too popular character, TLG would, IMHO, most likely include some battle droids-they're cheap and kids love them-another $5. Add an astromech and you've got $10 more than 75038-$35. Maybe they would throw in a usless rock structure or even more enemies, and that's $40 right there.

Darth Vader is, in exception of the watch, used as a selling point of $130+ sets-7965 Falcon, 75055 ISD. Plus, Darth Vader doesn't have a Sith-Fighter in the movies, so it would be harder to sell. So if it does get produced, which is highly unlikely, LEGO would inflate the cost because the parents of Vader-wanting children would obviously rather pay $40 for a set with the one figure rather than $130.

LEGO prices are rising, but we've got to remember that the set and minifigure quality is also rising. That's why I'm happy to pay more for a better set.

[Venkefedo]

I don't see how "it's harder to sell a Mace set or a Vader Eta-2 when neither were in the movie" translates to "let's jack up the price!" It'd be harder to sell those sets at $40 each than at $25, especially if each has only two minifigs: the pilot and his droid. If it's essentially the same part count as 75038, and the same figure count judging by the original suggestion, it makes no sense to jack up the price $15 (unless you're TRU doing typical shady TRU things).

[Brickdoctor]

I think most kids don't care whether or not they've seen something in a movie or a TV show before as long as the set looks cool. I don't think Vader's Eta-2 is something that'll show up in the near future (unless it features prominently in Rebels; that's a possibility), but for a different reason: simply because if TLG decides to make a starfighter set with Vader in it, there's little reason not to re-re-re-release a TIE x1.

[Robianco]

The 9492 set is such a beautiful TIE... I really hope the next variant is Vader's TIE Advanced.

[Faefrost]

The 9492 set is such a beautiful TIE... I really hope the next variant is Vader's TIE Advanced.

We had a fairly nice Black and Grey Vader Tie right before 9492. While not anywhere near as good as the newer a Tie, it is still much better than the classic blue ones. I think we will see a Tie Interceptor first, just because it has been many many years since that was last seen. At it was never done without the blue trim.

[Robianco]

We had a fairly nice Black and Grey Vader Tie right before 9492. While not anywhere near as good as the newer a Tie, it is still much better than the classic blue ones. I think we will see a Tie Interceptor first, just because it has been many many years since that was last seen. At it was never done without the blue trim.

Yeah... I've been tempted to pick that older one up. I've been close a few times on eBay. The Interceptor would be fantastic too. To be honest... I think we'd all like a full set (maybe even a TIE Bomber) of the same quality as 9492.

[Jdurg]

Yeah... I've been tempted to pick that older one up. I've been close a few times on eBay. The Interceptor would be fantastic too. To be honest... I think we'd all like a full set (maybe even a TIE Bomber) of the same quality as 9492.

A few weeks back I was able to pick up Vader's Tie Advanced, as well as the "regular" Tie Fighter from BrickLink at a very good price. I must say, those ships look great. I think they were very well done and amazingly simple to build.

I know that many AFOLs out there aren't so happy with all the "re-releases" of sets, but honestly I think it's a good idea. It seems that sets get retired fairly quickly and if you are someone who is just recovering from their Dark Ages it can be next to impossible to get those older sets without taking out a second mortgage. By re-releasing sets, people like me are able to pick up some of the iconic ships and settings that we missed out on previously.

An example of this is the Super Star Destroyer Executor. I missed out on this one as I just came out of my Dark Ages earlier this year. A few days back, I saw that the Lego Shop At Home store suddenly had them available for purchase with a shipment date of 06-Oct-2014, but I hesitated and the next day they were Sold Out again. Now, it doesn't even appear on the S@H website. (So I'm thinking that they were in the process of removing it, and there actually were none available). I would love to see this re-released even if it isn't a UCS set and one with more play features.

Another one that I think everybody would like would be Cloud City. With how detailed modern sets are, I think TLG could produce an amazing set now. I know that many years back they tried to produce Jabba's Palace with "modular" sets that didn't really work out all that great, but why not try it again with Cloud City? They could release the different areas as different sets and allow the user to combine them all. Imagine if they sold the Landing Bay with a landing pad for the MF, entrance to the main building, and an open area/hallway that the other sets would merge with. They could include Lando, C-3PO, Leia, Chewbacca, R2-D2, and a bunch of Storm Troopers so you could re-enact the escape scene. Another "module" would be the Carbonite Freezing chamber that would include the little dwarf like creatures in there, Han Solo, Han in Carbonite, and Boba Fett.

The next module would be the Duel between Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. It would include a separate part of the Carbonite Chamber, the balcony area where the famous quote is stated, and include Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. Another module would be the Dinner Area where the trap is sprung. You'd have various bounty hunters in there, Lobot, Imperial Troopers, and more Storm Troopers.

By having all these separate modules, an AFOL could easily combine them all into one massive set, or if you only wanted let's say the Carbonite Chamber but couldn't care less about other parts, you could purchase just that. I think this would be a great way to re-release this set, and once all of the "modules" have been released, TLG could go and release them all in a massive combo pack.

[AwesomeBantha]

I don't see how "it's harder to sell a Mace set or a Vader Eta-2 when neither were in the movie" translates to "let's jack up the price!" It'd be harder to sell those sets at $40 each than at $25, especially if each has only two minifigs: the pilot and his droid. If it's essentially the same part count as 75038, and the same figure count judging by the original suggestion, it makes no sense to jack up the price $15 (unless you're TRU doing typical shady TRU things).

That's not what I meant-Darth Vader sells very well. He sells so well, in fact, that it's one of the few minifigs that everyone wants to have. LEGO knows this, so they only include him in expensive sets/ones with high profit margins-the Millenium Falcon, SSD. Therefore, TLG knows that they can sell a set with Darth Vader and one other astromech at exorbitant rates, and so, logically, they will (assuming the set gets produced).

Mace Windu is a popular character, not the most popular, but, again, he, like Darth Vader, is used as the selling point for various sets (AT-TE, Palp's Arrest).

[GuyDudeMan27]

That's not what I meant-Darth Vader sells very well. He sells so well, in fact, that it's one of the few minifigs that everyone wants to have. LEGO knows this, so they only include him in expensive sets/ones with high profit margins-the Millenium Falcon, SSD. Therefore, TLG knows that they can sell a set with Darth Vader and one other astromech at exorbitant rates, and so, logically, they will (assuming the set gets produced).

Mace Windu is a popular character, not the most popular, but, again, he, like Darth Vader, is used as the selling point for various sets (AT-TE, Palp's Arrest).

That is true, but I don't think that's justifies a $40 set that should be only $25. Personally, I don't think popularity or anything like that should affect lego prices. At the end of the day, you are just paying for bricks, not anything else. The price per piece ratio should determine prices more than anything else. Of course, that is what I think. TLG (and you) may think otherwise.

[Robianco]

As much as Vader has recently been in expensive sets I think they simply choose the figures right for that set so if they had a $25 set that needed Vader in then they wouldn't just shift the price point because of it.

Look at the DC range for example... 3 figures in a new set including a Batman variant people actually want along with Green Lantern AND Sinestro... figures people have been clamouring for for years... all in a $20 set.

[jedge]

Ben Kenobi's Home

Small set. Maybe include a landspeeder. Should have a chest for Luke's lightsaber. R2 with holographic Leia.

Lar's Homestead

Not sure how I'd like this designed. As long as it has blue milk and two charred skeleton figures included.

Dagobah Camp

Small set. Just a power generator and a dead tree. R2, Yoda, Luke in Dagobah fatigues.

Cloud City

They need to go big on this one, not as big as the Death Star, but in the same style... maybe only two or three levels. Should be circular. Top level could include Slave 1 landing pad, mini Slave 1, dining room, recycling room. Bottom level: trash room, carbon freezing chamber, duel room, catwalk room. Maybe a small third level just to give it some height. A new Bespin Leia, Bespin Luke, break-apart 3po, and Ugnaught(s) could be some new figures.

Rebel Transport

The cargo ship that escapes Hoth. This would be pretty tough as its blimp-shaped /round. Interior could just be some kind of command center.

Bantha

Bantha and a couple Tusken Raiders

Twin-Pod Cloud Car

The original is way out of date, definitely time for a new one. Just the fact that its not all grey justifies a new version.

[Jedi-Bendu]

Ben Kenobi's Home

Small set. Maybe include a landspeeder. Should have a chest for Luke's lightsaber. R2 with holographic Leia.

Lar's Homestead

Not sure how I'd like this designed. As long as it has blue milk and two charred skeleton figures included.

Dagobah Camp

Small set. Just a power generator and a dead tree. R2, Yoda, Luke in Dagobah fatigues.

Cloud City

They need to go big on this one, not as big as the Death Star, but in the same style... maybe only two or three levels. Should be circular. Top level could include Slave 1 landing pad, mini Slave 1, dining room, recycling room. Bottom level: trash room, carbon freezing chamber, duel room, catwalk room. Maybe a small third level just to give it some height. A new Bespin Leia, Bespin Luke, break-apart 3po, and Ugnaught(s) could be some new figures.

Rebel Transport

The cargo ship that escapes Hoth. This would be pretty tough as its blimp-shaped /round. Interior could just be some kind of command center.

Bantha

Bantha and a couple Tusken Raiders

Twin-Pod Cloud Car

The original is way out of date, definitely time for a new one. Just the fact that its not all grey justifies a new version.

If they'd release all these sets next year I'll go bankrupt.

[Crazy Packers Fan]

Prequel sets I'd like to see:

Theed Throne Room - I know a Queen Amidala minifigure was finally released with the Gungan Sub (???), but I'd love to see a set with the queen, her handmaiden and the original chancellor guy in her throne room, with the Separatists arresting her.

Galactic Senate - Either a version from Episode I with the queen and Palpatine, or one from Episode III with the Sidious vs. Yoda fight (this one would sell better). Include 4 or 5 of the Senate mini-ships.

Gungan Underwater City - Yeah, yeah, I know, the Gungans are about as unpopular as it gets in Star Wars. Still, I am disappointed that there's never been a Boss Nass or an official Captain Tarpals. Either that, or the scene where Padme begs Boss Nass and the Gungans to help them. In any case, I want to get new characters we've never had before.

Original Trilogy sets I'd like to see:

UCS Millennium Falcon - Not just a 2nd chance for those of us who were in our dark ages to get a UCS Falcon, but Nien Nunb absolutely needs to be released! Put out a UCS Falcon that includes both the original Falcon crew, as well as the Falcon crew from Return of the Jedi (Lando & Nien Nunb especially). It's a shame Nien Nunb hasn't ever been released, because he plays a part in the most exhilarating scene in all of the movies in my mind - when the Falcon just ever so barely escapes the Death Star II's explosion. What a moment that is.

Dagobah- someone suggested this earlier and I think it would be great. Include Yoda's hut, the place where Luke fights Vader (with a Vader minifigure with Luke's exact face inside the mask), some various vines and other stuff, and a log for a new ghost Kenobi minifigure to sit down on and talk to Luke. I don't see a need for a X-Wing personally, but if that will help it sell, add it in.

Cloud City

They need to go big on this one, not as big as the Death Star, but in the same style... maybe only two or three levels. Should be circular. Top level could include Slave 1 landing pad, mini Slave 1, dining room, recycling room. Bottom level: trash room, carbon freezing chamber, duel room, catwalk room. Maybe a small third level just to give it some height. A new Bespin Leia, Bespin Luke, break-apart 3po, and Ugnaught(s) could be some new figures.

Can't agree more. Basically make this one their $300 set for the year and go all out with it.

[AFOLguy1970]

As someone who came out of my dark ages two years ago and finally bought an original trilogy set, I certainly hope to get some more of the ones currently available. Death Star is pretty expensive, and it is beginning to become outdated with the much better prints on the latest minifigs, so I am unsure about getting it just to ensure I end up with most of the main characters.

What I would like to see:

(1) A new UCS Millenium Falcon, for the same reason as other posters have indicated. UCS could mean it is a collector's item, but it does not necessarily have to mean that is the only time it will ever be available

(2) A set with Tusken Raiders. I know Lego has made these before, but it has been a while.

(3) Something with the Emperor (other than the Death Star), perhaps either another release of the Imperial Shuttle. If they did make the scene from Episode III where he duels Yoda, that would suffice since by then he already basically appears as he does in the OT.

(4) Another Tie Fighter. In fact, I think that the Tie Fighter, X-Wing, and Millenium Falcon together should be evergreen sets, with the occasional update from time to time.