xboxtravis7992 Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) If anything is affecting Rebels sets, I believe it is the same thing which affected some of The Clone Wars sets (although it was less noticeable with Clone Wars due to the fact that theme didn't have to compete with new live action films). With both Rebels and Clone Wars I have noticed most sets that were released corresponded to scenes early on in a season. For example, the Phantom II from this year was introduced pretty early on in Season III. Most of the Season II sets were also based on stuff that was introduced early on in that season. I think Lego is probably given by Lucasfilm some concept art and reference material only for the first few episodes of the season, and expect Lego to base all the merchandise off that. I figure this is why we have yet to see sets based on the grand season finales (for example the Duel on Malachor at the end of Season 2). And unfortunately Rebels has a habit of having slow season openers and dramatic finales... As such the sets we are getting aren't even based on the most memorable aspects of the show! Rebels could be a gold mine for Lego, if only they could tap into the memorable moments in the show. I am still hoping for a Rebels AT-AT, or a new Ghost, the Hammerhead cruisers, Tie Defenders, and a new Darth Maul figure. However, if Lucasfilm keeps giving Lego only the season opener stuff to avoid spoilers down the line, Lego will only be producing the less memorable filler vehicles sadly. And of course with the new films out, Lego is probably going to focus on the higher revenue potential those films offer. TFA and Rogue One have probably been seen by a far wider group of people than Rebels has been, and as such TFA and Rogue One sets will drive sales up higher. However, seeing how Lego is slowly releasing one-off Clone Wars sets still, my hope is that even once Rebel's is cancelled we will still see at least one or two Rebels sets every other year. The crossover appeal of some Rebels stuff with Rogue One could help (trust me, it seems a lot of people want a Hammerhead set now!) The rumors that Sabine will be in this year's Advent Calendar seem to suggest that even if they aren't in the spotlight, we could expect Rebels merchandise to stick around for a while. With that said it is befuddling that Lego seems to be putting so much focus on Freemaker's sets. I figure the TV show must be doing well for them... but still. Considering those set slots could have been filled with Rebels/Clone Wars/TFA/OT/PT/Rogue One stuff... It is strange that Lego is filling so much of their production capability with these forgettable sets. I can't imagine that the Freemaker's show has a higher viewership than Rebels; but then again who knows what kids are watching more between the two. Edited February 4, 2017 by xboxtravis7992 Quote
RetroInferno Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 I watched a couple Freemakers episodes out of morbid curiosity and it's aimed at 7 years old. The ''humor'' is terrible. But yeah as for future Rebels sets they would have to fix a couple things, notably the mini-figs. - Sabine is the worst mini-fig rendition Lego has made and continues to make so far: She's supposed to be a tan skinned young mandalorian, but in mini-fig form she looks like a middle aged white soccer mom, and they don't even include her helmet in most sets she appeared in. Ezra and Zeb are almost as bad: wrong skin color, hair and the torso print is really simple. It's strange because they fixed Kanan after he was released with black hair and the skin tone is on point. Hera is also a very good mini-fig. Kind of hard for a meh set to make a come back when your mini-figs are really not interesting. Quote
benderisgreat Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 22 minutes ago, RetroInferno said: I watched a couple Freemakers episodes out of morbid curiosity and it's aimed at 7 years old. The ''humor'' is terrible. But yeah as for future Rebels sets they would have to fix a couple things, notably the mini-figs. - Sabine is the worst mini-fig rendition Lego has made and continues to make so far: She's supposed to be a tan skinned young mandalorian, but in mini-fig form she looks like a middle aged white soccer mom, and they don't even include her helmet in most sets she appeared in. Ezra and Zeb are almost as bad: wrong skin color, hair and the torso print is really simple. It's strange because they fixed Kanan after he was released with black hair and the skin tone is on point. Hera is also a very good mini-fig. Kind of hard for a meh set to make a come back when your mini-figs are really not interesting. Worst thing about Zeb minifigure is the fact they didn't include him in new Phantom! Overpriced 40$ set with only 2 minifigures and astromech, why not include updated Zeb with Faun legs( from Cmf series 15) ? And while I like new Kanan, he's blind! How can he pilot a starship? Force could help him fight with lightsaber, but not use electronic equipment and pilot ship! Zeb would be perfect for this set, especially since 40$ is way to much for 260 pcs and 2 minifigures, and adding Zeb woul make it way better deal. Quote
Supersonic Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 1 hour ago, xboxtravis7992 said: The rumors that Sabine will be in this year's Advent Calendar seem to suggest that even if they aren't in the spotlight, we could expect Rebels merchandise to stick around for a while. I actually feel like that's a bad sign - Sabine is probably the most interesting fig from Rebels (changing armor, rare helmet, mandalorian armor is always cool) and she's getting stuffed into an Advent Calendar, a place for minifigures that have no place anywhere else. I like the observation about only early season stuff getting into Lego sets, but that's not the only problem the Rebels set had - just take the Rebel Combat Frigate and A-Wing set from last summer as examples. Both are really well done IMO (the A-Wing and TIE definitely are), but priced really high, and you would expect Rebels sets to be less expensive if anything! Compare the €100 A-Wing vs TIE to the Imperial Shuttle Tydirium at the same price point and it's not hard to see why it didn't sell well, same for the €120 Phoenix Home vs ,say, the 2014 AT-AT. If we don't even get obvious remakes that show up in Rebels, such as the TIE Interceptor, TIE Bomber and Tantive IV, it doesn't look too good for more Rebels sets. The amount of new movies is going to increase every year - 2018 could have sets for Ep 7, Ep 8, Rogue One and both OT and PT. Add the Freemaker stuff and there is really no space left for sets that will probably not sell as well as classic vehicle remakes. Quote
VaderFan2187 Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 3 hours ago, xboxtravis7992 said: Rebels could be a gold mine for Lego, if only they could tap into the memorable moments in the show. I am still hoping for a Rebels AT-AT, or a new Ghost, the Hammerhead cruisers, Tie Defenders, and a new Darth Maul figure. However, if Lucasfilm keeps giving Lego only the season opener stuff to avoid spoilers down the line, Lego will only be producing the less memorable filler vehicles sadly. And of course with the new films out, Lego is probably going to focus on the higher revenue potential those films offer. TFA and Rogue One have probably been seen by a far wider group of people than Rebels has been, and as such TFA and Rogue One sets will drive sales up higher. However, seeing how Lego is slowly releasing one-off Clone Wars sets still, my hope is that even once Rebel's is cancelled we will still see at least one or two Rebels sets every other year. The crossover appeal of some Rebels stuff with Rogue One could help (trust me, it seems a lot of people want a Hammerhead set now!) The rumors that Sabine will be in this year's Advent Calendar seem to suggest that even if they aren't in the spotlight, we could expect Rebels merchandise to stick around for a while. With that said it is befuddling that Lego seems to be putting so much focus on Freemaker's sets. I figure the TV show must be doing well for them... but still. Considering those set slots could have been filled with Rebels/Clone Wars/TFA/OT/PT/Rogue One stuff... It is strange that Lego is filling so much of their production capability with these forgettable sets. I can't imagine that the Freemaker's show has a higher viewership than Rebels; but then again who knows what kids are watching more between the two. Rebels is the only way to keep things fresh. They churn out new material constantly, unlike the rereleases we keep getting. 1 hour ago, Supersonic said: I like the observation about only early season stuff getting into Lego sets, but that's not the only problem the Rebels set had - just take the Rebel Combat Frigate and A-Wing set from last summer as examples. Both are really well done IMO (the A-Wing and TIE definitely are), but priced really high, and you would expect Rebels sets to be less expensive if anything! Compare the €100 A-Wing vs TIE to the Imperial Shuttle Tydirium at the same price point and it's not hard to see why it didn't sell well, same for the €120 Phoenix Home vs ,say, the 2014 AT-AT. I know right... I would've bought them both if they were a fair bit cheaper... I want a TIE Defender, TIE Interceptor, TIE Bomber, and standard TIE Fighter. LEGO seems to like ships which participate in battle, but then why did they remake the Landspeeder and not the TIEs? I just don't get their logic sometimes Quote
RetroInferno Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Vader's TIE would have sold bundle if only with was shipped as is, I don't get the interest Lego planned with a Rebels a-wing combo with a weird color scheme. It's not like kids are gonna jump for joy seeing an a-wing, especially one from rebels which serves as pure cannon fodder. Meanwhile Vader had two very nice sequence in his TIE from rebels, from blowing most of their fleet alone and slowly getting down on malachor while standing on top of it. A lot of potential with Rebels but mix average sets with an average show, source material is not gonna save you. Edited February 5, 2017 by RetroInferno Quote
KevinYoung Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 I just cant get into that show [rebels] .I sure do miss clone wars thank goodness for Netflix!!!! Quote
brobert Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 On 1/25/2017 at 7:37 PM, VaderFan2187 said: An official LEGO designer on brickset (in the Star Wars competition) said that Rebels sets and prequel sets don't sell as well as others. I like TFA, but I think they need more (quality) Rebels sets. I for one am happy to hear that, since everything in Rebels is basically the already known stuff slightly redesigned. with silly colors and stuff, so if you want to buy something that is actually in the OT or the PT, but the toy is based on Rebels, it just looks off. Not LEGO example: I got a stormtrooper figure as a present from my coworkers, which would be great, but it's the stupid looking animated stormie, with weir looking long legs and feet, and deformed helmet. The thing I really hate about rebels' animation though is Vader's redesign. Just...why... Anyway, Star Wars needs to be more innovative in the upcoming years, because if they just rehash the same old stuff every year, it will get really old very soon. Then we might get some mouth-watering LEGO sets too. I don't envy LEGO designers, because they don't have much original material to work with, so they have to design sets like the quadjumper, that nobody would even want, if we had some original designs in TFA... To me, the only interesting new design since the new era of SW is the U-wing, that is the most unique and memorable ship in the 2 new movies so far, and it actually makes sense. 16 hours ago, KevinYoung said: I just cant get into that show [rebels] .I sure do miss clone wars thank goodness for Netflix!!!! Weird, I watched the first season in a day, but I am not super keen to continue with the second. Clone Wars is not that easy to get into either, after a couple of episodes with ol' J.J. Abrams Binks, I want to punch the TV. I just don't know where to start that series. Quote
jdubbs Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 I have mixed feelings about future LEGO Rebels sets. If the only option is more sets like we’ve seen so far, I’d have to say “no thanks”. But if LEGO could focus on the “sweet spot” where Rebels and the OT intersects, I’d happily offer up my credit card. While there have been some exceptions (AT-DP, Hammerhead Corvette, Mad-Max-ified AT-TE), most of the designs introduced within the show just aren’t very good, or at least, don’t make for compelling sets. And like Freemaker, they chew up slots that could be used for more interesting movie-based releases (or even re-releases). Rebels is a show that started out promising, then quickly devolved into slapstick antics and potty humor before recovering a bit in the second season, but now seems only capable of resurrecting Clone Wars characters and storylines. Having been a fan of The Clone Wars series, I initially welcomed this. But lately it just seems like the show is lacking its own inertia, having to rely on rehashing the past in order to keep going. Asoka, Rex, Clones, Geonosians, Maul, Night Sisters, Mandalorians, and the list goes on and on. If Saw Guerrera had not been featured so cryptically in Rogue One, his addition to Rebels would have been yet another example of this… but at least the show can fill in some of his mid-story to see what drove him to such an extreme, fragile state. The selection of Rebels sets has been frustrating to say the least. I don’t understand the release of so many high-priced Rebels sets considering these are supposedly marketed mostly to kids. Vader’s TIE and the A-Wing had no business being bundled into a $90 (U.S.) combo set, especially alongside three $100+ Rebels sets also on the market. The show makes extensive use of vehicles many OT collectors have been clamoring for — TIE Bomber, TIE Interceptor, Tantive IV, none of which suffers from a “Rebels Repaint" or restyling — and yet none of these has been released as a set. The vehicles that do get made into sets are blink-and-you-miss-'em, had poor designs to begin with (not LEGO’s fault), aren’t in scale with anything, and/or don’t resonate with parents willing to spend $120 on a toy for their kid. Is it any wonder retailers don’t want to carry Rebels sets? From what the producers said at the show's outset, it sounds like Rebels has at most one more season left in it. Possibly a half-season, if whatever is coming next from Lucasfilm's animation unit is already in production. My guess is there aren't many more opportunities for Rebels sets left...? Quote
Tariq j Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 Another potential problem that was also discussed in the other Rebels thread is the viewing figures. Clone Wars was getting 1 million viewers at the minimum, and for many episodes there were higher viewing figures, some even reaching just under 4 million, Rebels is getting under 1 million, and in some cases, not even half a million. I think it's a shame because I want to see more Rebels sets, Hammerhead corvettes, TIE Bombers, Interceptors, Defenders, Malachor, etc. these are the sets we need to see. I think we also need to see some new minifigures being released in sets. Even though the Clone Wars minifigures were not popular because of their style, one of the good things about them was that we were always seeing new characters, even obscure ones like Turk Falso. Quote
VaderFan2187 Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 6 hours ago, brobert said: I don't envy LEGO designers, because they don't have much original material to work with, so they have to design sets like the quadjumper, that nobody would even want, if we had some original designs in TFA... Agreed, and then they get bashed by us fans over their designs… 1 hour ago, jdubbs said: I have mixed feelings about future LEGO Rebels sets. If the only option is more sets like we’ve seen so far, I’d have to say “no thanks”. But if LEGO could focus on the “sweet spot” where Rebels and the OT intersects, I’d happily offer up my credit card. While there have been some exceptions (AT-DP, Hammerhead Corvette, Mad-Max-ified AT-TE), most of the designs introduced within the show just aren’t very good, or at least, don’t make for compelling sets. And like Freemaker, they chew up slots that could be used for more interesting movie-based releases (or even re-releases). Rebels is a show that started out promising, then quickly devolved into slapstick antics and potty humor before recovering a bit in the second season, but now seems only capable of resurrecting Clone Wars characters and storylines. Having been a fan of The Clone Wars series, I initially welcomed this. But lately it just seems like the show is lacking its own inertia, having to rely on rehashing the past in order to keep going. Asoka, Rex, Clones, Geonosians, Maul, Night Sisters, Mandalorians, and the list goes on and on. If Saw Guerrera had not been featured so cryptically in Rogue One, his addition to Rebels would have been yet another example of this… but at least the show can fill in some of his mid-story to see what drove him to such an extreme, fragile state. The selection of Rebels sets has been frustrating to say the least. I don’t understand the release of so many high-priced Rebels sets considering these are supposedly marketed mostly to kids. Vader’s TIE and the A-Wing had no business being bundled into a $90 (U.S.) combo set, especially alongside three $100+ Rebels sets also on the market. The show makes extensive use of vehicles many OT collectors have been clamoring for — TIE Bomber, TIE Interceptor, Tantive IV, none of which suffers from a “Rebels Repaint" or restyling — and yet none of these has been released as a set. The vehicles that do get made into sets are blink-and-you-miss-'em, had poor designs to begin with (not LEGO’s fault), aren’t in scale with anything, and/or don’t resonate with parents willing to spend $120 on a toy for their kid. Is it any wonder retailers don’t want to carry Rebels sets? From what the producers said at the show's outset, it sounds like Rebels has at most one more season left in it. Possibly a half-season, if whatever is coming next from Lucasfilm's animation unit is already in production. My guess is there aren't many more opportunities for Rebels sets left...? 58 minutes ago, Tariq j said: Another potential problem that was also discussed in the other Rebels thread is the viewing figures. Clone Wars was getting 1 million viewers at the minimum, and for many episodes there were higher viewing figures, some even reaching just under 4 million, Rebels is getting under 1 million, and in some cases, not even half a million. I think it's a shame because I want to see more Rebels sets, Hammerhead corvettes, TIE Bombers, Interceptors, Defenders, Malachor, etc. these are the sets we need to see. I think we also need to see some new minifigures being released in sets. Even though the Clone Wars minifigures were not popular because of their style, one of the good things about them was that we were always seeing new characters, even obscure ones like Turk Falso. Agreed, but oh my god can we start another thread called something like 'Why Rebels sets are bad'? I want a LEGO Bendu… do you think he would be a bigfig or brick-built? Quote
RogueTwo Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 I would love to see ONE LAST (yeah, right...) System-scale Snowspeeder with a proper molded canopy and some more creative design for the laser cannons, rather than those cruddy pre-fabricated-looking pieces that have been around since 1999 at least. I feel that this vehicle has been done to death, but never done justice (MOCs not withstanding). I don't even really care which minifigures would be included. I suppose it's inevitable that pretty soon TLG will start remaking all the OT Rebel pilot helmets with built-in transparent visors like the TFA minifigures. At the very least, I have high hopes for the UCS Snowspeeder. Also, an AT-AT/AT-ACT combo pack would be pretty cool (includes the orange cargo container or some grey panels to fill in the cargo hold--wouldn't be that difficult to do). Minifigures: 2x Imperial pilot, 2x Rebel Trooper, 2x Shore Trooper, and...well, if Moroff came with the Y-Wing and Pao came with Krennic's Shuttle, could we please get Galen and Saw with an AT-ACT? Quote
xboxtravis7992 Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 Oh gosh, reading your debates about the future of Rebels is suddenly reminding me of being on Eurobricks discussing the future of Bionicle exactly a year ago... That is freaking me out a bit. I don't want history to repeat itself, but sadly the writing seems to be on the wall. I hope if Rebels only has one more season after this one they make it a grand finale worth remembering. Also what some of you have said about the design philosophy in Rebels... Sometimes they seem to tweak stuff in weird ways. My prime example of this is the inclusion of a few civilian transports in the series. They took the effort to include the RX-24 droid from Star Tours, even getting Paul Reubens to reprise his role. But then they plop the droid into some new bland ship called a "Star Commuter" which looks like another drab piece of prequel era background ships. Never-mind the fact that the Star Speeder from Star Tours which is a "vehicle" millions of people have "experienced" on the theme park ride; is actually canon thanks to the Force Awakens... It feels like they just went halfway there, like they wanted the droid, but didn't dare bring everything else in with it. I feel this happens with other stuff too... Like Rebels wants to bring in new stuff and some old EU stuff, but they cherry pick and sometimes leave the most interesting stuff on the cutting room floor. I have been having a lot of fun with Rebels as a show (from the bits I have been able to see via DVD)but to be honest the most exciting thing about Rebels right now is how close it is to Rogue One in the timeline. And that's the thing, if I had to make a choice between spending money on last year's Rebels sets compared to last years Rogue One wave; the Rogue One wave wins hands down! In fact I already have the U-Wing and Krennic's shuttle and will be buying the AT-ST and Hovertank as soon as I can... In comparison the only Rebels stuff I own is the Microfighter Ghost and a Agent Kallus figure I Bricklinked, an investment of $18 dollars or so compared to the $150 I have already sunk into Rogue One stuff (I will buy the Phantom II once it released in the states, but that has more to do with the inclusion of Thrawn than anything else...). I love them both, but honestly Rogue One is the thing which I am most compelled to buy right now. Anyways back to the set wishlist... I don't know if I mentioned this but I want to see one of Saw Guerra's X-Wings made into a set. A good chance to get a new OT style X-Wing, but something different from our usual Red 5 sets. Quote
RogueTwo Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, xboxtravis7992 said: Anyways back to the set wishlist... I don't know if I mentioned this but I want to see one of Saw Guerra's X-Wings made into a set. A good chance to get a new OT style X-Wing, but something different from our usual Red 5 sets. A bit off topic, but I didn't realize that Saw Guerrera had his own X-Wings. Are your referring to the ones crashed in Jedha City? Either way, we do need a new T-65. 9493 looks dated at this point. The cockpit is an easy fix (just use the one from Poe's X-Wing or the U-Wing), but the wing placement and engines are very wrong. I'm a terrible MOCer, but even I've tried to modify it, just because it looks so woebegone next to the newer Rebel ships. Quote
jdubbs Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 Yes there were one or two X-Wings outside Saw's hideout, which they pass by as they're racing to the U-Wing. I think one was dark, like Poe's. But they're only featured for a split-second.... we'd sooner see a LEGO Quad-Jumper than any of those X-Wings. Oh, wait... Quote
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Interior has multiple portions: Portion where Anakin and Obi-Wan duel Count Dooku, Bridge portion where Anakin and Obi-Wan meet Grievous, and cockpit, which can break off. Also has stand with sticker detail on plaque. Price = $359.99 (or $179.99 in US) ▪ Meson Martinet: Comes with Sidon Ithano [New], Quiggold [New], Pru Sweevant [New], Finn [2015]. Build(s) = Meson Martinet with opening cockpit and accessible interior, plus two spring-loaded shooters. Price = $129.99 (or $64.99 in US) ▪ Ion Cannon Attack: Comes with 2x Hoth Rebel Troopers [2016], 2x Snowtroopers [2014]. Build(s) = Ion Cannon that can elevate and rotate, plus Snowtrooper speeder bike and E-Web blaster cannon. Price = $89.99 (or $44.99 in US) ▪ UCS Cloud City: Comes with Lando Calrissian [New], Han Solo [2016], Leia Organa [New], Luke Skywalker [New], Han Solo in Carbonite [New], Carbonite Han Solo [2017], Boba Fett [2016], Chewbacca [2014], C-3PO [2016], R2-D2 [2016], Darth Vader [2015], 2x Stormtroopers [2014]. Build(s) = UCS Cloud City with open interiors like 10188, but the general shape of the build is like Cloud City. Rooms include the Carbonite Freezing Chamber, the “I am your Father” scene, a Cloud City prison, the dining room, plus a Hangar for a Cloud Car. Price = $499.99 (or $249.99 in US) ▪ Scarif Army Builder Pack: Comes with Death Trooper [2017], 3x Shoretroopers [2017], Shoretrooper Captain [2016], 4x Rebel Troopers [New], Rebel Pilot [2016]. Build(s) = Section of Scarif scenery with two crates that has Technic pins, so when multiples are bought they can be joined together to make a large Scarif scene. Price = $99.99 (or $49.99 in US) ▪ Jedha Army Builder Pack: Comes with Death Trooper [2017], 4x Stormtroopers [2014], 3x Partisan Rebels [New], 2x Rebel Troopers [2017]. Build(s) = Section of Jedha City with exploding feature, plus Technic pins so that when multiples are bought they can be joined together to make a large Jedha City scene. Price = $99.99 (or $49.99 in US) ▪ Kashyyyk Army Builder Pack: Comes with 3x Battle Droids [2007], 2x Super Battle Droids [2007], 2x Wookiee Warriors [New], 2x Kashyyyk Clone Trooper [2014], 41st Elite Corps Trooper [2014]. Build(s) = Section of Kashyyyk with lookout on a tree, plus Technic pins so that when multiples are bought they can be joined together to make a large Kashyyyk scene. Price = $99.99 (or $49.99 in US) ▪ Tantive IV Corridor Army Builder Pack: Comes with 5x Rebel Fleet Troopers [New], 5x Stormtroopers [2014]. Build(s) = Section of the Tantive IV Corridor with 2 foldaway barricades, plus Technic pins so that when multiples are bought they can be joined together to make a large Tantive IV Corridor scene. Price = $99.99 (or $49.99 in US) ▪ Moon of Endor Army Builder Pack: Comes with 3x Stormtroopers [2014], 2x Scout Troopers [New], 3x Rebel Endor Commando Troopers [New], 2x Ewok Warriors [2013]. Build(s) = Section of the Moon of Endor’s forest with two small trees that have a net dropping function, plus Technic pins so that when multiples are bought they can be joined together to make a large Moon of Endor scene. Price = $99.99 (or $49.99 in US) ▪ BARC Speeder Pursuit: Comes with Commander Neyo [2014], BARC Speeder Pilot [New], Stass Allie [2013]. Build(s) = 3 BARC Speeders, 2 have white and dark red patterns and spring-loaded shooters, Stass Allie’s BARC Speeder has white and olive green patterns with small cannons at the front. Price = $69.99 (or $29.99 in US) ▪ Endor Ambush: Comes with Chief Chirpa [New], Ewok Warrior [2013], Scout Trooper [New], Stormtrooper [2014]. Build(s) = Two tall trees with bridge connecting them, have swinging hammer function plus trapdoor feature on the bridge. There is also hidden storage in one tree trunk and a small campfire in the other tree. Also has speeder bike for Scout Trooper. Price = $89.99 (or $44.99 in US) ▪ Rescue on Wobani: Comes with 2x Rebel Troopers [New], 2x Stormtroopers [2014], Jyn Erso [New], K-2SO [2016], Imperial Prisoner [New]. Build(s) = Prison transport version of Clone Turbo Tank, with exploding feature and foldable panels to access interior. Also has suspension and small stud shooter cannons. Price = $229.99 (or $114.99 in US) ▪ Endor Bunker Battle: Comes with Endor Han Solo [New], Endor Princess Leia [2015], Chewbacca [2014], 2x Rebel Endor Commando Troopers [New], Paploo [New], Wicket [2013], 2x Stormtroopers [2014], Scout Trooper [New], Imperial Officer [2016]. Build(s) = Endor Shield Generator Bunker with sliding doors, exploding feature, and interior with controls. Also comes with an Ewok catapult, an Ewok glider, and two Speeder Bikes. Price = $259.99 (or $129.99 in US) ▪ Endor AT-AT: Comes with Endor Luke Skywalker [2015], Darth Vader [2015], AT-AT Driver [2014], Stormtrooper Captain [New], 2x Stormtroopers [2014]. Build(s) = Endor AT-AT with posable head, posable legs, spring-loaded shooters under head, and opening panels to access interior with seats for minifigures in AT-AT. Price = $219.99 (or $109.99 in US) ▪ Battle Above Coruscant: Comes with Pilot Anakin Skywalker [2014], R2-D2 [2016], 2x Buzz Droids [New], 2x Battle Droids [2007]. Build(s) = Anakin’s Yellow Eta-2 Jedi Interceptor, with opening cockpit, seat for Anakin, 2 spring-loaded shooters, and astromech droid socket; plus Droid Tri-Fighter with 3 spring-loaded shooters and opening cockpit. Price = $129.99 (or $64.99 in US) ▪ Boba Fett Buildable Figure: Includes Buildable Figure of Boba Fett with spring-loaded shooting EE-3 carbine blaster rifle and brick-built jetpack. Price = $44.99 (or $24.99 in US) ▪ Chewbacca Buildable Figure: Includes Buildable Figure of Chewbacca with spring-loaded shooting Wookiee bowcaster. Price = $44.99 (or $24.99 in US) ▪ Clone Trooper Buildable Figure: Includes Buildable Figure of a Phase I Clone Trooper with a spring-loaded shooting Clone Trooper blaster rifle. Price = $34.99 (or $19.99 in US) ▪ MagnaGuard Buildable Figure: Includes Buildable Figure of a MagnaGuard with swinging arm function, purple electrostaff, and ragged torn headwrap and cape. Price = $59.99 (or $29.99 in US) ▪ Corporate Alliance Tank Droid Assault: Comes with 2x Wookiee Warriors [New], 2x Battle Droids [2007]. Build(s) = Small stud-shooting Dwarf Spider Droid and a large Kashyyyk Corporate Alliance Tank Droid with rolling treads, rotating cannons, and spring-loaded shooters. Price = $59.99 (or $29.99 in US) ▪ First Order TIE Fighter Microfighter: Comes with First Order Special Forces TIE Fighter Pilot [New]. Build(s) = Microfighter version of First Order TIE Fighter with two spring-loaded shooters. Price = $17.99 (or $8.99 in US) ▪ Rey’s Speeder Microfighter: Comes with Rey [2015]. Build(s) = Microfighter version of Rey’s Speeder with two stud shooters on the sides. Price = $17.99 (or $8.99 in US) ▪ The Phantom II Microfighter: Comes with Sabine Wren [New]. Build(s) = Microfighter version of the Phantom II with one stud shooter. Price = $17.99 (or $8.99 in US) ▪ Captain Rex’s AT-TE Microfighter: Comes with Captain Rex [2016]. Build(s) = Microfighter version of Captain Rex’s AT-TE with two flick-fire missiles and posable legs. Price = $17.99 (or $8.99 in US) ▪ AT-ACT Microfighter: Comes with Shoretrooper [2017]. Build(s) = Microfighter version of AT-ACT with posable head, posable legs, and two flick-fire missiles. Price = $17.99 (or $8.99 in US) ▪ B-wing Starfighter Microfighter: Comes with Gray Squadron B-wing Pilot [2014]. Build(s) = Microfighter version of B-wing Starfighter with folding wings and flick-fire missiles. Price = $17.99 (or $8.99 in US) Quote
Japanbuilder Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) I agree with many of the sentiments expressed here regarding Rebels sets. Many are strange or not compelling enough. Though fundamentally the problem lies with the popularity of the show. If it is getting less viewers than CW then the result if fewer sales of those sets since most collectors don't care for or about or even know that much regarding Rebels. Though the good sets they release (pricing aside) have bolstered my fleet of ships. I will totally be getting Rogue One star fighters to add to that fleet. Just as soon as I can budget the cash. Also since I am troop builder kinda guy I would like the Rebels bp imperial transport but bigger MUCH bigger. I don't like the Rebels stormies that much but I can just pretend that is the helmet raw recruits get. While veteran and specialized troopers carry the more movie styled helmets and gear. Still a huge transport would go well with my growing army of stormies and would fit my display theme better than TIE fighters do. I suppose an updated version of set 7659 is really the set I am asking for. As seen here. Edited February 7, 2017 by Japanbuilder Quote
brobert Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Japanbuilder said: Also since I am troop builder kinda guy I would like the Rebels bp imperial transport but bigger MUCH bigger. I don't like the Rebels stormies that much but I can just pretend that is the helmet raw recruits get. While veteran and specialized troopers carry the more movie styled helmets and gear. Still a huge transport would go well with my growing army of stormies and would fit my display theme better than TIE fighters do. I suppose an updated version of set 7659 is really the set I am asking for. As seen here. TBH, the LEGO version of rebels stormies doesn't differ much from OT ones. The proportions are all the same thanks to the dimensional constraints, so the only difference is the color of the grills right? Anyway, I wouldn't shed a tear if Rebels were cancelled, but more importantly, I hope The freemakers fail, and those slots can be freed for some quality sets. Honestly, those ships look like they sat down 5 kindergartners and told them to build a spaceship. Which is fine I guess, but the sets are taking up slots from potentially better ones. At those prices, we could get some awesome sets. But to be really honest. Now that I think about it, I don't even have a wishlist at the moment...would this be the end? I mean, a nice system scale snowspeeder would be nice like mentioned before me, but I probably wouldn't get it, because my diorama already has one and can't fit one more... The only thing I really miss is a great X-wing. Not a mediocre one like the current offerings, but a really great one. Quote
Legoman123 Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 I would love an updated Ghost with an interior like the MF. On the subject of 'Ghosts' I would love to see Anakin, Obi-Wan & Yoda as Force Ghosts. Quote
Supersonic Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 10 hours ago, RogueTwo said: A bit off topic, but I didn't realize that Saw Guerrera had his own X-Wings. Are your referring to the ones crashed in Jedha City? Either way, we do need a new T-65. 9493 looks dated at this point. The cockpit is an easy fix (just use the one from Poe's X-Wing or the U-Wing), but the wing placement and engines are very wrong. I'm a terrible MOCer, but even I've tried to modify it, just because it looks so woebegone next to the newer Rebel ships. A new T-65 X-Wing is way overdue and would have been perfect as a Rogue One tie-in - shame they had to release a second Force Awakens X-Wing, because I'm somewhat sure they didn't want three X-Wings on shelves at the same time! It would also be a perfect way to give us some of the Alliance generals introduced in Rogue One, as well as Dodonna and Mothma. Good thing is that new X-Wings being released in the future is really a thing of certainty, because they always sell, and the Episode 7 ones won't be around forever. One more thought on the Rebels sets - it's really kind of a problem when the most compelling things to come out of the show are OT rehashes. TLG doesn't need Rebels to release a TIE Interceptor, they can do that as an ROTJ set - same thing they just did with the A-Wing. With the Hammerhead coming to fame in Rogue One, how many interesting vehicles are exclusively in Rebels? The Imperial Light Cruiser probably, the Light Carrier (which is impossible to release as a Lego set really)...not a whole lot. Quote
kibosh Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 My biggest problem with the Rebels sets, and why I have steered clear of them, is the minifigures. I realize they are based on a cartoon, but I don't think they have to make them so cartoony. I really don't like the Rebels stormtroopers at all. If they were to same as the newer OT and RO stormtroopers, I'd buy them. The exaggerated mouths bug me. Quote
Jameseh Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) - Edited August 28, 2017 by Jameseh Quote
VaderFan2187 Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Jameseh said: Ah crud, I didn't realize the Rebels stormies were any different to the most recent OT ones (would be the day after buying a Imperial Transport BP). Can't unsee the mouths now Clear comparison shot, there are quite a few differences in printing. Quote
Jameseh Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) - Edited August 28, 2017 by Jameseh Quote
Legoman123 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Now we are receiving a bounty hunters BB, Lego could go back to the clone trooper bb (kashykkk, geanosis etc) but instead start putting three generic troops in and the commander. That way we'd be able to get all the phase 2 commanders. Quote
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