Future Star Wars Sets

[StoutFiles]

It's a good thing you point out logic flaws in the PT - I never noticed any in the OT! Look for logic mistakes as hard as you want, ANH, ESB and ROTJ are perfect and there is nothing wrong with them at all!

Seriously, if you don't like the PT just shut up instead of showing such minor things in TPM - there are about a hundred logic errors in each of the movies (such as, let's say, the whole story about the destruction of both death stars - if SW was really logical, the Rebels would just have been crushed).

And to prevent this post from being too much off topic, I would indeed like a royal starship - if TLG can think of a way to capture the sleek form. A fair number of new parts would be necessary, I guess. It would probably make for a rather good exclusive set.

I don't see why I can't point out problems with the PT, I do it sparingly. I definitely agree there are flaws with the OT, but the rebels defeating the Empire twice isn't one of them. Both times were due to an overconfident Empire. The Empire did dominate the rebels on numerous occasions. There have been MANY times in history where an underdog has defeated someone though, too many to list.

[Piranha]

I agree with you and mentioned I think last week in another thread that there needs to be a really decent Cloud City. I didn't like the original one that much and I think TLG could easily remold the Ultimate Death Star and mod it so that it resembles Cloud City. The top part could be Han and Leia's suite joining onto the dining room where they were greated with Vader.

The middle section could be a large landing pad with a Twin Pod Car (not enough space for the Falcon though I guess). A small room where C3PO got shot. Next room could be a corridor plaza bit which has the large white elevator leading to the upper level and into the bowels.

The bottom section really could do with a decent Carbon Freezing Chamber, which would also be good for the start of the duel, leading to the other sets where the duel played out finishing to the iconic gangway where Luke loses his hand. Maybe if there's space there could also be a small incinerator section where Chewie found Threepio and the Uganaughts.

I know this sounds a lot but to be honest if TLG bought out a set like this at the £270-£300 mark who wouldn't buy it..? C'Mon TLG make our dreams come true..!

Hello, I really like your idea of a Cloud City modeled after the death star! I think some changes would be nice and needed so it doesn't look like a Death Star with Cloud City sites. And all of the exclusive figs to go with it.

Star Wars Playsets are tough, the best ones I have seen would be the Endor Bunker, that actually works quite well, Death Star of course, and maybe the Hoth Rebel Base, sure it is just the front entrance but it is rather nice. Mos Eiesly Cantina, Cloud City and Home one, just didn't sit well with me.

One of the best playsets could have been the concept Yavin Base from the visual dictionary. It looked nice as well a great playset. Another one that would work well is a Jedi Temple.

[Scottywan]

If I can throw in my opinions, I'd personally love to see a midi-scale Super Star Destroyer, Rebel Frigate (like at the end of Empire), and a sweet playset-style Mon Calimari Cruiser to go with the Star Destroyer one.

Also, please bring back the Lambda shuttle already....

[Piranha]

If I can throw in my opinions, I'd personally love to see a midi-scale Super Star Destroyer, Rebel Frigate (like at the end of Empire), and a sweet playset-style Mon Calimari Cruiser to go with the Star Destroyer one.

Also, please bring back the Lambda shuttle already....

Yes I would have preferred a scaled Home One like an SD or Venator over the A-wing Playset. I guess that leaves us a chance for another set, but I like it when exclusive figs are only in one set

[Supersonic]

I don't see why I can't point out problems with the PT, I do it sparingly. I definitely agree there are flaws with the OT, but the rebels defeating the Empire twice isn't one of them. Both times were due to an overconfident Empire. The Empire did dominate the rebels on numerous occasions. There have been MANY times in history where an underdog has defeated someone though, too many to list.

If you only look at the movies, the Empire wins exactly one real battle agains the rebels, which is the Battle of Hoth - a scene full of logic errors itself.

The destruction of Death Star II was definitely unlogical. In a real world, Han's strike team on Endor would have been executed the moment they were captured, and fluffy teddy bears killing elite troops by throwing rocks at them isn't flawless either. But let's not get to much into this, we all love these movies regardless of their flaws.

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One of the ships I would simply love to see as a set is the Nebulon B frigate. Of course it would need some support due to its unsteady shape, but I have seen some great MOCs that are small enough to be realistic as 150 $ sets. Minifigs could be some Rebel technicians, pilots, and droids.

[Fallenangel]

If you only look at the movies, the Empire wins exactly one real battle agains the rebels, which is the Battle of Hoth - a scene full of logic errors itself.

The destruction of Death Star II was definitely unlogical. In a real world, Han's strike team on Endor would have been executed the moment they were captured, and fluffy teddy bears killing elite troops by throwing rocks at them isn't flawless either. But let's not get to much into this, we all love these movies regardless of their flaws.

I don't think we were ever saying that it was flawless. The idea that the Alliance could have won is quite possible, even if the fine bits aren't. Besides, I don't really hold logical errors against the Prequels either. (At least, not at present.)

Maybe brickartist is right; I don't know how many times the Yavin playset, midi-scale Executor, and EF76 have been mentioned. But hey, if LEGO sees it enough times maybe they'll remember to make it into a set.

[AngryChair]

Hello, I really like your idea of a Cloud City modeled after the death star! I think some changes would be nice and needed so it doesn't look like a Death Star with Cloud City sites. And all of the exclusive figs to go with it.

Star Wars Playsets are tough, the best ones I have seen would be the Endor Bunker, that actually works quite well, Death Star of course, and maybe the Hoth Rebel Base, sure it is just the front entrance but it is rather nice. Mos Eiesly Cantina, Cloud City and Home one, just didn't sit well with me.

One of the best playsets could have been the concept Yavin Base from the visual dictionary. It looked nice as well a great playset. Another one that would work well is a Jedi Temple.

Hiya Macoco, yeah I think you're right in that it would need to be reshaped a little so it doesn't look like the Death Star. I had a look at the Yavin base from the Visual Dictionary and I wasn't overly keen on it. I agree though that sets are difficult to do expecially with regards pricing. TLG are sort of stuck really as I see that they have two markets to supply for, 1/young kids who just want Lego to play with and 2/us older collectors who want the world.! I would like to see some diaramas though of key scenes or locations (Palpatine's Office and Jedi Master Chamber for a start)but I guess at least we can create our own MOC's for diaramas.

Shall be interested to see what the new Hoth set looks like though.

[StoutFiles]

If you only look at the movies, the Empire wins exactly one real battle agains the rebels, which is the Battle of Hoth - a scene full of logic errors itself.

The destruction of Death Star II was definitely unlogical. In a real world, Han's strike team on Endor would have been executed the moment they were captured, and fluffy teddy bears killing elite troops by throwing rocks at them isn't flawless either. But let's not get to much into this, we all love these movies regardless of their flaws.

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One of the ships I would simply love to see as a set is the Nebulon B frigate. Of course it would need some support due to its unsteady shape, but I have seen some great MOCs that are small enough to be realistic as 150 $ sets. Minifigs could be some Rebel technicians, pilots, and droids.

It's the only battle they showed, but the rebels lost others. What do you think happened to the rebel base at Yavin after they blew up the Death Star?

The Stormtroopers have proven over the couse of the movies to be anything but elite, but that wasn't the point of the Endor scene. First off, it was never implied that the Ewoks were winning...they were merely a distraction. Lucas says this himself in the commentary. Secondly, it was supposed to be about a technology-inferior race holding off the Empire. Once again, there have been numerous wars in history where the inferior army has won, either through sheer numbers or battleground tactics (Ewoks had both).

Nebulon B would be a great ship, but I doubt they'll do it. A little too obscure.

Edited March 17, 2011 by StoutFiles

[BrickArtist]

Yeah, I actually think the Venator is more iconic than the nebulon. We do need some sort of rebel capitol ship, though...

[Supersonic]

Yeah, I actually think the Venator is more iconic than the nebulon. We do need some sort of rebel capitol ship, though...

The Corellian Corvette ( e.g. the Tantive IV) was a ship that the Rebels often used, although it's a lot smaller than the ISD, of course. All the others are hard to realize - MCCs and rebel transports are very sleek and round, the Nebulon B is obviously not an easy choice either.

Besides, the Separatists need a capitol ship too. The Providence-class carriers look easy enough, maybe we'll get one for the ROTS-3D-release.

Edited March 17, 2011 by Supersonic

[RejectedShrimp]

not sure if this idea has been thought of already but here it goes:

Revamped mos eisley

price: £70-100 GBP

Figures: Han Solo, Luke, Old Ben, Greedo, I dont like you either guy , Imperial spy like in VG, Cantina Band, Aqualish and Arcona figure

Set:

Cantina bar with booth areas like were solo and greedo meet.

After looking at this i think it will be great as a 3 parted set. One set includes bar with i dont like you either and aqualish along with bar tender, Greedo, Cantina band and Arcona. Another set is Space port with new Jabba, Han, Chewy, imperial spy, " storm/Sandtroopers.

Final set is lukes speeder which is already released but could include some scenary

[Brickdoctor]

Yeah, I actually think the Venator is more iconic than the nebulon. We do need some sort of rebel capitol ship, though...

I think that's debatable. The Nebulon-B is specifically mentioned as a medical ship and you can clearly see the heroes are on it at the end of Empire. But, yeah, I doubt TLG would ever give us a Nebulon-B playset. The ship is just too greebled for anything less than UCS.

The Corellian Corvette ( e.g. the Tantive IV) was a ship that the Rebels often used, although it's a lot smaller than the ISD, of course. All the others are hard to realize - MCCs and rebel transports are very sleek and round, the Nebulon B is obviously not an easy choice either.

Besides, the Separatists need a capitol ship too. The Providence-class carriers look easy enough, maybe we'll get one for the ROTS-3D-release.

Agreed, and agreed. Unfortunately, Providence-, Subjugator-, and Munificent-classes do have round parts, the Recusant-class is covered in more greebles than the Nebulon-B and would never hold up without a stand, the Lucrehulk-class is round and wouldn't hold up without a stand, and very few people would know what Hardcell- and Diamond-, class ships are.

[Mr Man]

Very few people would know what Hardcell- and Diamond-, class ships are.

I do

I would love for TLG to do the Providence, Subjugater, Recusant, and Munificent-classes sets, especially if they did them in midi with others.

Separatist: Subjugater, Providence, Recusant, and Munificent

Republic: Mandater, Venator, Victory, and Acclamator

Rebel: Home one, Viscount, Liberty, and a Mon Calamari frigate

Empire: Executor, Imperial, Imperator, Ardent

Edited March 17, 2011 by Mr Man

[Brickdoctor]

Separatist: Subjugater, Providence, Recusant, and Munificent

Republic: Mandater, Venator, Victory, and Acclamator

Rebel: Home one, Viscount, Liberty, and a Mon Calamari frigate

Empire: Executor, Imperial, Imperator, Ardent

I don't think the Subjugator deserves a place there. Or the Mandator. The Victory isn't a well known Republic ship, and the Imperator is the same as the Imperial-I.

Separatists: Providence, Munificent, Recusant

Republic: Venator, Acclamator

Rebellion: Home One*, Liberty*, Nebulon-B

Empire: Imperial-II, Executor, Immobilizer 418

*Primary variants of the MC80 design, not ship classes.

[Mr Man]

I don't think the Subjugator deserves a place there. Or the Mandator. The Victory isn't a well known Republic ship, and the Imperator is the same as the Imperial-I.

Separatists: Providence, Munificent, Recusant

Republic: Venator, Acclamator

Rebellion: Home One*, Liberty*, Nebulon-B

Empire: Imperial-II, Executor, Immobilizer 418

*Primary variants of the MC80 design, not ship classes.

I was trying to get 1 dreadnought, 2 cruisers and one frigate per faction

I thought the imperitor was the Imperial II, not 1, and CW's fans would want a Subjugator, and the Nebulon-B, I like the idea however I didn't include it as it is an imperial not a rebel ship, and I like the all Mon Cal ship idea.

I agree about the Mandator and the Victory not been very well known, but they are better known than the Immobilizer.

[Brickdoctor]

I agree about the Mandator and the Victory not been very well known, but they are better known than the Immobilizer.

The Victory, maybe, but the Immobilizer 418 has much better source material than the Mandator.

[Fallenangel]

Yeah, I actually think the Venator is more iconic than the nebulon. We do need some sort of rebel capitol ship, though...

Nah; at least, not within the films. For an Alliance capital ship, what better than the Redemption?

I dont like you either guy

Dr. Evazan. Don't forget Ponda Baba (Walrus Man).

I would love for TLG to do the Providence, Subjugater, Recusant, and Munificent-classes sets, especially if they did them in midi with others.

Agreed. The midi-scale had so much potential.

I don't think the Subjugator deserves a place there. Or the Mandator. The Victory isn't a well known Republic ship, and the Imperator is the same as the Imperial-I.

Separatists: Providence, Munificent, Recusant

Republic: Venator, Acclamator

Rebellion: Home One*, Liberty*, Nebulon-B

Empire: Imperial-II, Executor, Immobilizer 418

*Primary variants of the MC80 design, not ship classes.

For the Alliance you could probably throw in the CR90 as well. I wish the same could be said for the Republic and the Dreadnaught (as well as any of the ships from the KOTOR games). I'd say the Hardcell is pretty recognizable, though the Diamond really isn't (I can imagine kids going, "Hey, it's a giant T-6 Jedi Shuttle!").

I thought the imperitor was the Imperial II, not 1, and CW's fans would want a Subjugator, and the Nebulon-B, I like the idea however I didn't include it as it is an imperial not a rebel ship, and I like the all Mon Cal ship idea.

I agree about the Mandator and the Victory not been very well known, but they are better known than the Immobilizer.

Wookieepedia says:

In Star Wars Revenge of the Sith: Incredible Cross-Sections, it was stated that the Imperial-class Star Destroyer was initially designated Imperator-class, and this term has been repeated in subsequent sources with reference to the earliest years of the Empire. Like the name of Cygnus Spaceworks, this term derives from a set of old, and apparently fan-made blueprints, hull-plans for a "Star Destroyer - Imperator Class".

So it's really both. Within the Imperator-class there are the Imperial I and Imperial II subclasses, with the primary distinguishing factor being features of their bridge towers. The EF76 was originally an Imperial ship but we know the Redemption as an Alliance ship.

On the contrary, I'd say the Immobilizer is just as famous as the Victory, and the Thrawn Trilogy is better known than the Han Solo Adventures series.

The Victory, maybe, but the Immobilizer 418 has much better source material than the Mandator.

Do we even know what a Mandator looks like?

[Brickdoctor]

though the Diamond really isn't (I can imagine kids going, "Hey, it's a giant T-6 Jedi Shuttle!").

Yeah, I could see that, too.

So it's really both. Within the Imperator-class there are the Imperial I and Imperial II subclasses, with the primary distinguishing factor being features of their bridge towers. The EF76 was originally an Imperial ship but we know the Redemption as an Alliance ship.

I thought the distinguishing feature was that the Imperial-II has eight heavy dual turbolaser batteries, while the Imperial-I has six.

Do we even know what a Mandator looks like?

From Kuat, and...biggish. That's all we know.

[Fallenangel]

Yeah, I could see that, too.

Typical Neo-Clone Wars, recycling designs.

I thought the distinguishing feature was that the Imperial-II has eight heavy dual turbolaser batteries, while the Imperial-I has six.

That too, but the bridge of the Imperial II-class has the large triangular windows with the crew pits (as seen on the Avenger in Empire) while the bridge of the Imperial I has a square viewport (as seen on the Devastator). If you read my review on 8099 you'll find I noted that 8099 has the bridge of an Imperial II-class but six batteries like an Imperial I (but no ion cannon, which is strange).

[Brickdoctor]

That too, but the bridge of the Imperial II-class has the large triangular windows with the crew pits (as seen on the Avenger in Empire) while the bridge of the Imperial I has a square viewport (as seen on the Devastator). If you read my review on 8099 you'll find I noted that 8099 has the bridge of an Imperial II-class but six batteries like an Imperial I (but no ion cannon, which is strange).

I never notice the thing about the bridge windows, but I included the thing about the number of batteries in my own review of 8099.

[DarthR2-D2]

...I dont like you either guy...

Did u hear that from It's A Trap (Family Guy ROTJ). He calls himself Pignose in Blue Harvest.

[The Legonater]

I don't think the Subjugator deserves a place there. Or the Mandator. The Victory isn't a well known Republic ship, and the Imperator is the same as the Imperial-I.

Separatists: Providence, Munificent, Recusant

Republic: Venator, Acclamator

Rebellion: Home One*, Liberty*, Nebulon-B

Empire: Imperial-II, Executor, Immobilizer 418

*Primary variants of the MC80 design, not ship classes.

Personally, I'd like an Interdictor, but that's unlikely.

[Brickdoctor]

Personally, I'd like an Interdictor, but that's unlikely.

The Immobilizer 418 is the official class name of the Interdictor Star Destroyer. Personally, I doubt TLG would ever delve that far into EU material, but for a third Star Destroyer, I think the design is more recognizable than that of the Victory-class. If TLG did do a third SD, I think it would come down to one of those EU ships, since the only other OT SD seen in the movies is the Tector-class, which only gets a couple seconds of screen time in Jedi and you never see the whole thing.

[The Legonater]

The Immobilizer 418 is the official class name of the Interdictor Star Destroyer. Personally, I doubt TLG would ever delve that far into EU material, but for a third Star Destroyer, I think the design is more recognizable than that of the Victory-class. If TLG did do a third SD, I think it would come down to one of those EU ships, since the only other OT SD seen in the movies is the Tector-class, which only gets a couple seconds of screen time in Jedi and you never see the whole thing.

It is? Huh, never knew that.

But yeah- the Victory, in my mind, has always just been a small Imperial SD with something sticking out the side of the tower. The 418 is much more intimidating in may ways, and is a great factor in the books.

Edited March 18, 2011 by The Legonater

[Fallenangel]

Personally, I doubt TLG would ever delve that far into EU material, but for a third Star Destroyer, I think the design is more recognizable than that of the Victory-class.

Hey, if they can make a TIE Crawler...