Mencot Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 PS. Brick, when you quote, don´t remove them player you quote! Okay (not ok-ey) does quotes were made a few posts away but it is very annoying when you quote something what was said like 5 pages ago and one don´t know where or who you are quoting
mostlytechnic Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Dave said this: As I said my feelings from Legospy is like nothing, so i don´t know I feel really too comfortable giving him the steal costume. And what does "NA result" really mean in this case? What is that NA = night action. But here's an idea. Both Brick and Dave - send a neutral third party in this debate (ie me) a PM with exactly how your result PM phrased it - not quoting the whole PM and breaking rules, but did the result say town, not town, scum,. not scum, what? Because honestly, we don't know if you both actually used the role! If your answers corroborate each other, there's a chance you're telling the truth (even if one of you is lying you've got 50/50 odds of matching), But if they're different, then we KNOW one of you is lying. And if you don't trust me, then pick someone else.
Mencot Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 NA = night action. Whoops But here's an idea. Both Brick and Dave - send a neutral third party in this debate (ie me) a PM with exactly how your result PM phrased it - not quoting the whole PM and breaking rules, but did the result say town, not town, scum,. not scum, what? Because honestly, we don't know if you both actually used the role! If your answers corroborate each other, there's a chance you're telling the truth (even if one of you is lying you've got 50/50 odds of matching), But if they're different, then we KNOW one of you is lying. And if you don't trust me, then pick someone else. Hmm why not but a feel a lying PM will be coming your or any other 3rd party player choosen. I will soon have to go to bed and before that I would want to choose a costume. I wouldn´t want to be an arrogant prick that takes what ever costume that looks good but I am not an puppy who just sits back and lets the scum choose the good ones. So are we gonna make up our minds about the costumes?
Piratedave84 Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 I counted 2 posts that you made accusing Tammo... You did nothing but join the bandwagon and restate facts we already knew. Bull Sh*t. I looked at the times between when I sent the second PM and when you took the vig hat, I sent the PM 14 minutes before you took it. Are you saying it took you more than 14 minutes to copy and paste a list? Yup, I was pretty drunk and I had to manually strikethrough the list with BB code because my mobile would not copy the formatting for me. I don't get you; you trusted me enough to give me your investigation result before you posted them publicly and told me to get the vig as I was the best choice in your opinion and now you turn around and accuse me of being scum; dude! I may not have accused Tammo, there was no need to as the investigation result was enough proof; there was no need to build a car really but I did encourage people in all my posts after the result was given to vote for Tammo which in itself is more than you did to further town's cause. I think you're town but your stubbornness here is very weird to me. Let it go dude you want to be in control I get that but it's not by alienating the other towns folk that you will achieve that.
Brickelodeon Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 I'm getting a town vibe from Mencot, I think he should take the thief. Either him or Walter, but Walter hasn't been active.
Mencot Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 I'm getting a town vibe from Mencot, I think he should take the thief. Either him or Walter, but Walter hasn't been active. Me, whoa what trust! If everybody would be Okay (not ok-ey) with that but I would rather take something else.
Lind Whisperer Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 I'm getting a town vibe from Mencot, I think he should take the thief. Either him or Walter, but Walter hasn't been active. Mencot hasn't really posted enough to give me a full vibe on him, but I'd pick him over Walter, who's been a wild card at best, flavoring of over-eager scum at worst.
mostlytechnic Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Ok, both brick and dave sent me pms. They did match, one saying "not scum" and one saying "scum" but brick also said that the role PM from the costume explicitly said the result would be scum/not scum, so I guess this told us nothing. Crap. Darn moderator giving too much detail in role pms
Mencot Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Ok, both brick and dave sent me pms. They did match, one saying "not scum" and one saying "scum" but brick also said that the role PM from the costume explicitly said the result would be scum/not scum, so I guess this told us nothing. Crap. Darn moderator giving too much detail in role pms Okay (not ok-ey), but it was a good try at least. I have at This moment looking, that both would be townis. Brick more than Dave.
Darkdragon Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Did I miss something or hath last night's vig truly not tell us who he targeted? The redirector doth claimed to have targeted the noble Shadows which was idiotic but understandable with the bandwagon the scummos did try to swingeth the lynch with. Why won't the original target be revealed? Twas plainly obvious Shadows was town, and any who championed his lynch in thread and especially in PM should have the ever watchful put upon them.
Mencot Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Did I miss something or hath last night's vig truly not tell us who he targeted? The redirector doth claimed to have targeted the noble Shadows which was idiotic but understandable with the bandwagon the scummos did try to swingeth the lynch with. Why won't the original target be revealed? Twas plainly obvious Shadows was town, and any who championed his lynch in thread and especially in PM should have the ever watchful put upon them. Sorry what?
Lind Whisperer Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Sorry what? Me thinketh that she hath hadst an old-timey speech curse placed against her.Translation: Has last night's vig not said who he actually targeted? The redirector has claimed to have targeted Shadows, which was idiotic, but understandable, with the bandwagon the scummos tried to lynch him on. Why hasn't the original target been shared? It was obvious Shadows was town, and anyone who said he should be lynched, either in thread, or(especially), in PM, should- I'm not quite sure about the next part - there are two possibilities she could mean here: -should have the Watcher(game role) focus on them. -should have what they've said in gameplay examined. (Darkdragon: If I've made any mistakes, please correct me.) EDIT: Never mind - I didn't see that you'd bolded "redirector".
Mencot Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Yes, I understod that she had the old english curse (or what it is) that Fhomess had yesterday but, i didn´t understand the redirector thing she said? What did you mean DD with that, did you mean last night or the night before... or what?
Darkdragon Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 I shall try again. Phone plus curse equals difficulty ...eth The person who had the theif redirected vig to shadows, right? Who did the vig originally target last night though? I saw someone ask this already but didn't see an answer. I suspect all who didth attack Shadows to try and saveth they're scummeth brethren. We should looketh upon these people who rallied against him, not necessarily focus on votes. A smart scum team recognized the danger of having Shadows against them and tried to kill him whilst saving tammo. They must be feeling much safer now with both shadows and draggy gone.
Mencot Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 I shall try again. Phone plus curse equals difficulty ...eth The person who had the theif redirected vig to shadows, right? Who did the vig originally target last night though? I saw someone ask this already but didn't see an answer. Okay (not ok-ey) now I understand. You meant the thief ability, got a bit mixed for me when you spoke of redirecting because redirector was a ability also (but dumped yesterday with the tammo lynch). No, I don´t think Fhomess has said who he would had targeted or targeted! I have to go to sleep now, i won´t take the thief ability. I would say DD would take it but I don´t know, I get a town vibe of her this time, have gotten the whole game. But she hasn´t been a really high poster either. Do some good choices! I will choose this and see what it does: 1. Flash's Lightning Cowl 2. Starlord's Mask 3. Mary Jane's Locks 4. Mr. Freeze's Coolant 5. Magneto's Super Awesome Helmet 6. Gandolf's Pointy Cap Bob 7. Captain Jack's Crow 8. Storm's Lightning Mencot Good night
jluck Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 At this point I'd like to assume Mencot is town. His choice of storms lightning shows he doesn't have much knowledge of the action attached to it. If he were scum, I'd think he'd have chosen differently.
fhomess Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 I did not submit a target last night. I was leaning towards Shadows, but Brick PM'd me about targeting him shortly after the day ended, which made me reconsider. Jluck and Mostly took the bomb costume pretty quickly, don't know if they are scum but it is a good nightprotection for scum when the info was out. Mostly followed you on consecutive days. Dragonfire followed Bob on consecutive days. Dave and Walter are not both scum. One or the other at most. Oh, look, scum number two is out today to reinforce and support Brickelodeon! How nice! What loyalty. I only know of very few men that have loyalty like that. Of course, I am one of those men. I'm so great! You're thinking that it's now smart to kill off the vigilante as well! Is it because you don't have it anymore? If I think a scum has an item, it's better to lynch him and lose the item than to let him live. Under what pretenses do you think that Tammo and Brick are both scum? Please explain their actions of the first two days in light of them being teammates. I sent Dave two PMs. The first one said something like "I think you would be a good vig for today".Then I sent another PM saying "But don't grab it yet, wait for a mutual decision to be reached." Apparently, he only chose to read the first one. But even so, he shouldn't have grabbed it. I never told him to grab it, I just said I think he would be a good vig for today. Actually, I can see how the first PM would lead someone to think you're suggesting they take the item. I'll say this, I don't think there's anything that Dave has done to suggest he's town yet, but in light of this new revelation, I'd say the case against him isn't quite as strong. Dave, why did you choose to investigate Lego Spy?
fhomess Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 1. Flash's Lightning Cowl 2. Starlord's Mask 3. Mary Jane's Locks 4. Mr. Freeze's Coolant 5. Magneto's Super Awesome Helmet fhomess 6. Gandolf's Pointy Cap Bob 7. Captain Jack's Crow 8. Storm's Lightning Mencot I will not be back on before the deadline. Lego Spy should have the thief.
Bob Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Ah, I got so lost looking at myself in the mirror and my reflection in the sink that I lost track of time! I'm so handsome and attractive! But look at what's happened in my absense! If I think a scum has an item, it's better to lynch him and lose the item than to let him live. Under what pretenses do you think that Tammo and Brick are both scum? Please explain their actions of the first two days in light of them being teammates. Don't worry. I, rakishly beautiful and intelligent Bob, will explain it to you and everyone else. Let's take a look at this from yesterday: Okay, I got some sleep and here is what I think about the current situation: I have been trying to play Speedy. The problem is that I'm not def... I did overlook a few options when railing on about how we should Lynch Tammo. Perhaps we can lynch the scummiest person today, and then see if the investigator hat is insane or not tomorrow. The only problem with this is that Tammo has the redirect role, so he can easily change the results of the cop to scum if he wants. There is also the scenario where Dave dies tonight. If that happens, I still think we should lynch Tammo, just to be sure... I still think that Tammo is the best lynch for today, but if everyone thinks I'm wrong, I will drop it for now. I'm also going to stop trying to be Speedy. I was hoping that I could be the town leader and stuff, but I don't think I'm good enough at it. Brickelodeon Post #200. After "championing" the lynch for Tammo, Brickelodeon starts to have second thoughts about it as the vote against Tammo picks up steam. He and Tammo both hoped that the idea of an insane cop would persuade the town to wait one more day. Tammo had begun to push for a Shadows lynch, of course, since obviously he wasn't going to go for himself. Then this happens: Unvote: Tamomono(Tamomono) Vote: Lind Whisperer(Lind Whisperer) We should still lynch Tammo tomorrow if we find that the scum tampered with Dave, or if he dies. If we have a blocker, you should block Tammo. Brickelodeon Post #227. After a bit and a second vote against Lind Whisperer is beginning to pick up some steam, he hopes that now he can silently unvote Tammo and wait until tomorrow to lynch him. Next: I will take the redirect tomorrow, how does that sound? I know I'm not a "confirmed" townie, but most everyone agrees that I am town. Brickelodeon Post #236 Vote: Starlord (Shadows) This is our best option today. Brickelodeon should take the redirect tomorrow. Tamamono Post #237. Take a look at how fast Tammo came in to support that Brickelodeon should take the redirect. After all, at the point the lynch against Tammo was looking to be questionable. Brickelodeon came in to announce that he would take Tammo's redirector costume the next day after Tammo used it that night, and Tammo wholeheartedly agreed with this plan. Then, when a lot of people are piling onto the Shadows vote and it appears that Shadows will be the one that will be lynched, Brickelodeon comes back to say this: As night approaches, I am once again transforming into D*ckelodeon and starting to think that Tammo really is the best lynch. I need to think about this more and read the thread over again. Brickelodeon Post #261. This is so when, as planned, they scapegoat Tammo on Day Three, Brickelodeon can go back to that post and say "see, I told you all I was right!" just like he did today. Then: Well Tammo, it looks like I started the bandwagon a little too well. Someone has been PMing with me and D*ckelodeon, and we are considering voting for you again. My one issue with re-voting for you is how townie-like you act. I wouldn't be voting for the person who I thought was scummiest, I would be voting to test a theory and get rid of a harmful costume piece. Still, testing this theory and getting rid of that harmful costume piece are good enough reasons to lynch I would say. I am going to keep my vote on Lind for now, he really has done nothing to defend himself but post fluff and stop talking. Seems like he is trying to get out of hot water without even trying. Brickelodeon Post #273. Here, as the lynch against Shadows weakens slightly and turns back to Tammo, he says that he may change his vote to Tammo, but it seems like it's a safer bet to vote Lind Whisperer out. Then, when Tammo tells him to really think about this, Brickelodeon responds with this: Just what do you want me to do? Vote for Shadows? I can't save you now, and even if I could, that would just make it look like we are scum buddies. If you really are town, you will have to be content with the fact that Shadows and Lind will be even under more scrutiny tomorrow when you flip townie. By dying, you are giving the town an investigator and taking away a harmful role from the scum. As much as you deny it, the role you have needs to be destroyed. The scum can use it infinitely to their advantage. Saying that it isn't dangerous just makes you look suspicious. And, we must not forget, you did come up scum to an investigation. I'm sorry, but it is too late for you. At least we can part like this, peacefully, instead of doing it in a way that would leave behind a history of rivalry. (such as with Bob and def). Farewell. I will keep my vote on Lind to retain neutrality. Brickelodeon Post #278. Then, Lady K calls Brickelodeon out, but in swoops someone else. Good old War Machine, mostlytechnic: Hey, I want you to vote shadows like me. There's NO WAY anyone is going to accuse you and tamo of being scum buddies if he flips scum. But a few votes could change the outcome. Sure, it's 10-3-4 right now (tamo-lind-shadows), but I've seen bigger lynch changes. If you're really interested in saving tamo now, DO IT. And frankly, I think you're town and the vigorous arguing between you to is also making me lean town on him. It's not 100% or anything, but seems like every time two people get in a "fight" in a mafia game, it turns out to be 2 townies fighting. That's what makes it so vigorous, both are nitpicking little details trying to build their case and not taking a step back to look at the bigger picture. Mostlytechnic Post #281. Planting the seed that even if Tammo flips scum, which he's going to as Brickelodeon and maybe mostlytechnic know, Brickelodeon is going to come out of it as clean as a whistle, and more powerful as well. Brickelodeon then returns to the thread, and calls out Lady K for seeing through it all and saying that Brickelodeon and Tammo are likely scum buddies, which they are. The day ends without Brickelodeon returning and voting for Tammo. Keep that in mind. Then, when Tammo flips scum, Brickelodeon comes riding in today on a horse so high that it barely fit into this room grabbing the investigator hat as quick as anything, then saying this: Well, D*ckelodeon was right after all. Tammo, you deceitful little jerk-wad, I will now disregard all of the "professional" advice you gave me on how to find scum... I told you I would be mad at you for making me feel bad if you turned out scum, so here is something I want to give you: .|, Lol. Anyway, at least we know that the investigator is the real one. I want to say that I did steal the vig hat yesterday, even after I had told you guys that I had already picked a different one. My reasoning for lying to everyone was so that the scum wouldn't know who to block. I chose to kill Shadows with it, which turned out to be a poor decision after all, but it clears the air for a new day. I think Lady K's death spawned from my "I wouldn't mind if the scum killed you" post, the scum wanted to make me look bad. Dave, who did you investigate and what was the result? So, he's bringing the investigator hat back into scum hands. Take a note at who's absent today. It's Lady K, who called out Brickelodeon and was the most vocal against him. He points out that the "scum wanted to make him looked bad", but nobody brings that up or bats an eye. I don't need to quote today's preceedings, since he's trumpting piratedave as being super scummy, and he's now saying that we should remove the vigilante costume, probably because he can't get the thief costume anymore and the redirector role is gone, and anybody who does grab the theif costume is bound to be under immense scrutiny, so none of the scum can do it. Take a note at who is also supporting the scummy piratedave bandwagon: it's fhomess and mostlytechnic! How much do you want to bet that Brickelodeon didn't actually steal fhomess' costume last night and stole something else? The scum team is Tammo, Brickelodeon, Mostlytechnic, Fhomess, and someone else. I don't know who yet. Gosh, I'm so smart for figuring that all out on my own. I'm such a genius, I just love myself!
Piratedave84 Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 I picked Lego spy due to his inactivity; thought he could be scum and I frankly thought I'd be killed or blocked which I am frankly amazed was not the case.
mostlytechnic Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Mostlytechnic Post #281. Planting the seed that even if Tammo flips scum, which he's going to as Brickelodeon and maybe mostlytechnic know, Brickelodeon is going to come out of it as clean as a whistle, and more powerful as well. Sorry, not letting crap like this fly. You REALLY think that brick and I are scum together? Let's look at today a little bit. Post 15, by me: Wait... this may be crazy, but what if there was a bigger ploy at work that backfired? See if you can find a hole in my hypothetical here or not... Tammo and brick are both scum. So they knew they had the cop and vig on day 1. Didn't know there was a second cop in dragonator. So they had tammo claim and brick may or may not have actually investigated him. Doesn't matter since they're both scum. Then... brick came out wiht the scum read, assuming tammo could save himself (like he sure tried to, and when it wasn't working enough, even brick backed off him hoping to save his scumbuddy). The goal would be to make everyone think the cop was insane so that the results from it later would be interpreted wrongly. Could that be possible? The biggest thing against it is HOW vehemently brick fought to lynch tammo yesterday. But he'd have to for it to work - anything less would have been suspicious. It's late and I'm sick and should be in bed, so I'm assuming I'm missing something in my logic. But it crossed my mind, so I threw it out there. Thoughts? Calling out brick as potential scum, right at the beginning of the day. Then when that was ignored by everyone, I brought it up again later: I already addressed the potential of brick being scum, and no one has responded. So you really think I'm scum buddies with him? I started the scumhunt against him and I tried to prod others again when they weren't looking into it at all. Right now I don't trust dave OR brick. I'd vote to lynch both if I could. And I'll gladly lynch either one as the rest of the town decides.
def Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 Shift Two has finished, the remaining costumes have been randomly distributed. 1. Flash's Lightning Cowl Lind Whisperer 2. Starlord's Mask Zepher 3. Mary Jane's Locks WalterKovacs 4. Mr. Freeze's Coolant Lego Spy 5. Magneto's Super Awesome Helmet fhomess 6. Gandolf's Pointy Cap Bob 7. Captain Jack's Crow DarkDragon 8. Storm's Lightning Mencot You are free to vote.
mostlytechnic Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Well, I totally misunderstood the random assignment thing then. I understood the rules to mean that anything not taken by the end of the day would be randomly. But this sucks, the thief today is one of yesterday's suspects. Hmm. I'll start things off Vote: piratedave84 (piratedave84) Reasons already given, and as I said earlier, as of now I'd be happy with him or brick getting lynched.
Lind Whisperer Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Shift Two has finished, the remaining costumes have been randomly distributed. 1. Flash's Lightning Cowl Lind Whisperer And thus the other problem with waiting to decide who gets what - you need to actually get around to deciding it. 2. Starlord's Mask Zepher Didn't Zepher have that costume yesterday also?
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