super-jaschka Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Almost all of my MOC need this part 44136 Quote
DrJB Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 Almost all of my MOC need this part 44136 I have collected many of those, and have not used them yet. But yes, they do have promising potential. Quote
Jeroen Ottens Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 I have collected many of those, and have not used them yet. But yes, they do have promising potential. Second that (allthough I only have 2 or 3 of them). It is such a beautiful piece, but I somehow never end up using it... Quote
DrJB Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) We should ask mahjqa, some of his MOCs are notorious for using such/similar bionicle parts. Edited April 18, 2015 by DrJB Quote
Jockos Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Sorry to ask here, but did you, guys, get a yellow connector peg/cross axle in your 8043? And where is it goes to? Could you post a picture, if you can? Thanks. Edited April 18, 2015 by Jockos Quote
DrJB Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Sorry to ask here, but did you, guys, get a yellow connector peg/cross axle in your 8043? And where is it goes to? Could you post a picture, if you can? Thanks. Is it yellow or tan (light nougat in LDD)? Edited April 19, 2015 by DrJB Quote
DrJB Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 I looked in the online instructions of both models (online) and could not find where it is used. I also do have model A displayed and could not find it. We need a larger audience to take part in this endeavor. Quote
allanp Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Might be a spare. They always throw in a few extra parts like pins and bushes. Or maybe it's used in the b-model. Quote
Jockos Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Ok, if it a spare part, but when I read Blakbird's or TechnicBrick's review, I couldn't find any. Quote
Odemit Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 I'd like to see the return of power puller style wheels. Or at least something new that is visibly that wide for a proper looking monster truck. Quote
Erik Leppen Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 To be honest I think this is one of those wish list types of topics that becomes 100 times more interesting if people would tell WHY they would want certain parts re-released. As of now, it has little more value than a poll. Yes, everyone wants to see the 19L black flex axle come back.No, not everyone.I wouldn't care. The spindle of 8466/8070/FerrarisWhy? I know the parts and have used them, but I have never found them very effective. There's some friction, and the distance between the connection and the wheel is too large. Instead I always opt for the parts used in 8448's front steering, and constructa non-steering axle with generic parts (like again in 8448). Are these discontinued? That would be a shame, really. These parts have a unique function not found in any other part. Losing the part means losing that function.Indeed, please bring it back :) http://i.imgur.com/Ry2RRYY.gifGreat example of a good and useful little part. There's now an alternative, but it has the steering link too close to the wheel, which I don't like. This part was perfect and I still use it for all steered non-driven axles.The wheels of 8448 are IMO very ugly and have the problem they are asymmetric. When the left wheel spins along with the aerodynamic features, the right wheel will spin against it. Also the axle hole is misaligned. The space inside the wheel is a features I'd LOVE to see return in newer wheels, and I hate it that new wheels don't have it. I still very often use the wheel of 8462 for this reason. The 8880 style hubs had the problem they can't be used in any other situation, so they are not "in system" really. Also, there are parts for this now (although they have the same problem as the 8466 spindle). The metal hook from 8285/8258.....Yes, also a shame it's gone. Not because of the metal, but because I don't think we now have a nicely shaped hook part that accepts a pulley.LEGO Part 75535 - Technic Pin Connector Round [No Slot]We still have a pin connector, no need to bring back the old one that has no other functions than the current one.http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=32003I don't see the point of two tires of the same style that differ only 10% in size. We now have three sizes, I think that's OK for now.I would like to see Technic Figures make a come back.Yes, me too. I thought they made some models more lifelike. Even though they fit better with studded, so maybe a redesign would be needed. But the idea of figures that have actual human proportions (which the minifig lacks) and ho are actually posable (which the minifig lacks) would be really nice.Non colour vomited axles, connector pegs and gears.I love the color vomited axles and stuff. They make it so much easier to dissect a model from a photo, and they make instructions so much clearer. And I can actually find the parts without needing many different bins for pins and axles.The buggy motorYes, any strong but fast motor would be awesome. But, of course, in a way that matches the power function system.Weight brickIs it discontinued? It's incredibly useful, as again it provides a function no other part serves.Air TankI hope with the revival of the pneumatic system we will see a new air tank. But it might be too expensive. It was certainly a great part.Teal. Teal. TEAL!!!! Yes, would be lovely. Better than two types of green that are almost the same (as much as I like both green and bright green, they are a bit too close together IMO)But let's first reuse dark blue and bright green in other sets before introducing yet another rare color. Quote
Gnac Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Sorry to ask here, but did you, guys, get a yellow connector peg/cross axle in your 8043? And where is it goes to? Could you post a picture, if you can? Thanks. Found it. Looks like instruction book 1 was updated to use a 3m end-stop axle instead of that [brick yellow] axle peg (step 36 / substep 3). Compare the old step to the new one Quote
DrJB Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 Why? I know the parts and have used them, but I have never found them very effective. There's some friction, and the distance between the connection and the wheel is too large. There is high demand for such part as it's used in many notorious MOCs The wheels of 8448 are IMO very ugly and have the problem they are asymmetric. When the left wheel spins along with the aerodynamic features, the right wheel will spin against it. Also the axle hole is misaligned. The space inside the wheel is a features I'd LOVE to see return in newer wheels, and I hate it that new wheels don't have it. I still very often use the wheel of 8462 for this reason. Next time you're out driving, make sure you pay close attention as all such fancy wheels have a single profile, they do not make them for left/right sides of a car separately. Or else you won't be able to rotate your tires (for uniform wear). Well you could, but you'd have to disassemble tries/wheels everytime and not sure everyone is willing to go through that trouble. Many people like those wheels because they have realistic wheel offset geometry. This is important for vehicle handling, return-to-center steering and so on. ... But the idea of figures that have actual human proportions (which the minifig lacks) and ho are actually posable (which the minifig lacks) would be really nice. This was debated many times and the problem is that, if you introduce such Technic Figures, then all technic sets need to be to the same scale. That is hardly achievable today. ... we will see a new air tank. But it might be too expensive. It was certainly a great part. The technic tank is still available, though in white only. Check your local lego.edu Found it. Looks like instruction book 1 was updated to use a 3m end-stop axle instead of that [brick yellow] axle peg (step 36 / substep 3). Compare the old step to the new one Good find. Did they update the building instructions after the recall? Quote
gvo25 Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 For sure the metal hook it is a must have for every lego technic crane Quote
GoldCivetta Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I'd really like to see these come back: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/lego/images/2/24/2592.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110427190122 no but seriously, these would be awesome: http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mln5xFzz7S_3K764xOjA1YQ.jpg Quote
bonox Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) For sure the metal hook it is a must have for every lego technic crane I bought one of effermans double hook in metal. Very good and fits nicely with just about every 'big' crane. Looks like that one but takes two pulleys side by side. Half (edit: actually quite a bit less than half based on the one original sold on BL in the last 6 months!!) the avg BL price too, so recommended if you need a few for projects. I have that part, how rare is it? it's pretty common - just has a very high selling price on BL. It's not actually all that hard to find cheap sets on fleabay that include one. 8286 or 8839 for example. Keep the hook, get rid of the rest. If you're willing to do a little work you can get them for effectively nothing. If you don't care about the B model, you don't even need it in the 8837! 23 sets, 116 currently available on BL. Probably better off looking for sets that contain it though. Edited April 20, 2015 by bonox Quote
vliet Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Jockos, for the tan part for the 8043, book 1 page 36, and I think there is another used in a revision but I am not sure about that, I have to see the original books. Quote
Jockos Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Gnac:thank you! (And for everyone, of course) Edited April 20, 2015 by Jockos Quote
Blakbird Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Next time you're out driving, make sure you pay close attention as all such fancy wheels have a single profile, they do not make them for left/right sides of a car separately. Or else you won't be able to rotate your tires (for uniform wear). Well you could, but you'd have to disassemble tries/wheels everytime and not sure everyone is willing to go through that trouble. Sorry, but that's just not true. Yes, cheap aftermarket wheels are the same on all 4 corners, but expensive profiled wheels are not. Same goes for tires. Every tire on my car is unique. Front and back are different sizes, and left and right are handed for precisely the reason mentioned: to have the track pattern rotating the right direction. Therefore, no tire rotation is possible. Quote
Saberwing40k Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Sorry, but that's just not true. Yes, cheap aftermarket wheels are the same on all 4 corners, but expensive profiled wheels are not. Same goes for tires. Every tire on my car is unique. Front and back are different sizes, and left and right are handed for precisely the reason mentioned: to have the track pattern rotating the right direction. Therefore, no tire rotation is possible. What kind of car do you have? I'd say that having handed wheels is not common in plebeian cars like my mother's Honda is not common, but having directional tread for high performance cars is a lot more common. But, for the purpose of Lego, I do not think that handed wheels and tires are a good idea, at least in terms of mold investment. Also, there would be too many people confusing them, because apparently people can't be bothered to figure out parts that are handed, like the differentials, and the old 16z clutch gears Quote
DrJB Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Sorry, but that's just not true. Yes, cheap aftermarket wheels are the same on all 4 corners, but expensive profiled wheels are not. Same goes for tires. Every tire on my car is unique. Front and back are different sizes, and left and right are handed for precisely the reason mentioned: to have the track pattern rotating the right direction. Therefore, no tire rotation is possible. Well, i was speaking of the 'masses' aka the large majority of tires/wheels out there. I spent enough of my years working in the tire industry and know that from 1st hand. Yes, high performance cars have 'directional' tires that cannot be rotated. They are however rather pricey not just to buy but also to replace. I personally think we will never see directional tires/ wheels made by TLG because it is simply too complicated, from many aspects. When you think about it, the various balloon tires were inspired from agricultural tires that typically have an alternated chevron pattern. However, doing this in lego would complicate mold geometry, demolding, ... etc. Now, and back to real tires, and I have designed/optimized patterns myself, the modern tires care not about symmetry of the pattern. In other words, the pattern needs not be symmetric visually, but performance wise needs to be symmetric whether the tire is spinning one way or another (to enable tire rotation, for wear). In fact, modern tires have ribs dedicated each more or less for the various tire performances (cornering, wet handling, snow traction, ...) We should ask efferman if he can do directional/nonsymmetric tires/wheels from 3d printing. Heck, why stop there, we should do square tires as well ... ;) They say the shoes make the suit, I'm guessing in your case the wheels/tires make the car stand :) Edited April 20, 2015 by DrJB Quote
Blakbird Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 What kind of car do you have? Mercedes CLS I'd say that having handed wheels is not common in plebeian cars like my mother's Honda is not common, but having directional tread for high performance cars is a lot more common. But, for the purpose of Lego, I do not think that handed wheels and tires are a good idea, at least in terms of mold investment. Also, there would be too many people confusing them, because apparently people can't be bothered to figure out parts that are handed, like the differentials, and the old 16z clutch gears You are right that it is not common in the real world, but they do exist and are not exactly rare either. Well, i was speaking of the 'masses' aka the large majority of tires/wheels out there. Next time you're out driving, make sure you pay close attention as all such fancy wheels have a single profile, they do not make them for left/right sides of a car separately. Your use of the word "all" forced me to reply. In fact it is precisely the fancy wheels that are more likely to be handed. Now, and back to real tires, and I have designed/optimized patterns myself, the modern tires care not about symmetry of the pattern. In other words, the pattern needs not be symmetric visually, but performance wise needs to be symmetric whether the tire is spinning one way or another (to enable tire rotation, for wear). In fact, modern tires have ribs dedicated each more or less for the various tire performances (cornering, wet handling, snow traction, ...) I certainly agree that handed wheels and/or tires are not really appropriate for a LEGO model from a business standpoint, although they would be cool. From that point of view, a directional wheel profile is probably not a good idea. With that being said, I really like the 8448 wheels despite the reverse rotation on one side. Given that this is meant to be a model of a high performance car, I can imagine such wheels really existing on it. Quote
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