Marvel Superheroes 2016 Rumors And Discussion

[GoldenNinja3000]

I just finished assembling the CACW Airport battle today. Fantastic set. The Giant Ant Man is stunning, it's my favorite part of the set aside from that wicked War Machine mini fig. And I was lucky enough to score an extra Ant Man statuette with my set! My only complaint is that the Captain America minifig is not new. They seem to like repeating with him. I also got the Avenjet space mission and Iron Skull Sub attack today, and both Captain America's in those sets are identical, but one has fins and the other has a jetpack. You'd think the Namesake of the new movie would get a makeover for it, it would have been a perfect time to give him a true helmet. Heck, there are three new Iron man variants this year and he's not the main character in any movie!

Yeah, I really want a Cap that isn't smiling. I wouldn't care about the Age of Ultron suit, but if you're fighting your best friends to the death why are you still smiling happily? And the Ant-Man statuette is an extra for everyone! It's so awesome that we get 2 in the set.

[Mercury]

Yeah, I really want a Cap that isn't smiling. I wouldn't care about the Age of Ultron suit, but if you're fighting your best friends to the death why are you still smiling happily? And the Ant-Man statuette is an extra for everyone! It's so awesome that we get 2 in the set.

I agree, the smiling face is a little weird! The suit is cool, but we've seen it. In a couple sets now. I'm kind of offput by the fact that the title character was recycled, and Black widow was too!

Awesome about Ant Man, it's the first statuette for me and it's making me want all the others! I'll happily trade my spare Ant Man for one of the others that are out.

[GoldenNinja3000]

I agree, the smiling face is a little weird! The suit is cool, but we've seen it. In a couple sets now. I'm kind of offput by the fact that the title character was recycled, and Black widow was too!

Awesome about Ant Man, it's the first statuette for me and it's making me want all the others! I'll happily trade my spare Ant Man for one of the others that are out.

I'm fine with the Cap in my Civil War display, but I really dislike all the blue on Black Widow. I'm thinking about getting another Agent 13 torso and putting that on black legs for the Civil War Black Widow. And about the statuettes, the ones in th Helicarrier really are amazing. They're so detailed for such tiny pieces!

[Captain Britain]

I'm fine with the Cap in my Civil War display, but I really dislike all the blue on Black Widow. I'm thinking about getting another Agent 13 torso and putting that on black legs for the Civil War Black Widow. And about the statuettes, the ones in th Helicarrier really are amazing. They're so detailed for such tiny pieces!

I've sadly only got the little shield guy statuette from the Helicarrier set (will order up the others eventually) but when it came through I really couldn't believe the detail on him! I know it's just a logo and little face print but it was still brilliant.

[Scarilian]

As with what many others have said, the smiling faces are not really going to be used much by people. Civil War is one of the darker times in their life - and its unlikely the characters will be smiling at all, even before things go worse. Its like with the BvS Superman figure, he's got a smiling expression on one side and his laser eyes on the other. So i just replaced it with the gloomy MoS head that looks annoyed on one side with the laser eyes and it fits BvS's depressing mood a lot better.

Personally i'm going to be using different heads for a majority;

- Iron Man will have his Silver Centurion head flipped around to show the damaged side, which would work well with his appearance in Civil War

- War Machine will have the head form his prior version

- Bucky will be getting a new head from an older set, unsure which i'll end up going with

Heck, there are three new Iron man variants this year and he's not the main character in any movie!

Not sure what you are on about here... he is effectively one of the two main characters in Captain America; Civil War and he's one of the main characters in the TV show that inspired those sets.

Also, we've had more than three variants this year. So far we've had five, four of which are brand new suits we have not got in Lego form before;

Mark 7 - Mark 7 Suit Variant (Iron Man Vs Loki)

Mark 33 - Silver Centurion Suit (Lego Marvel Avengers Polybag)

Mark 37 - Deep Sea Diving Suit (Iron Skull Sub Attack)

Mark 39 - Gemini (Avenjet Space Mission)

Mark 46 - Bleeding Edge Suit (Airport Battle)

Its also possible that the fourth Civil War set could have another Iron Man suit.

I'm fine with the Cap in my Civil War display, but I really dislike all the blue on Black Widow. I'm thinking about getting another Agent 13 torso and putting that on black legs for the Civil War Black Widow.

How to phrase this... umm, Black Widow is a fairly well endowed character who uses her looks against her opponents and her appearances in set form have reflected that. As such i'm not sure the Sharon Carter body piece really fits with her given its more designed to cover-up and it looks fairly detailed or high-tech compared to the stuff that Black Widow wears.

I've attempted it personally and the belt of Sharon Carter just detracts from the whole look and the lack of the skin exposing 'v' shape on the upper bit of the torso doesnt help. If you do decide to go with that though, i'd recommend giving her some form of detail on the lower legs as otherwise it'll just look too similar to Sharon Carter.

In terms of body pieces, she essentially needs just a black body piece with a 'v' neck. Though I'm honestly not sure if we have a good way of representing that currently with official pieces - what we need is essentially this body piece (A custom made by Christo back in around 2011/2012) minus the belt buckle.

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Edit; at a push one of the Catwoman torso's could work... just the matter of the large zipper piece :L

Edited March 15, 2016 by Scarilian

[KCMatze]

Mark 7 Iron Man is not new, he was in the older / first Quinjet set ;)

Edited March 15, 2016 by KCMatze

[PickleManDan]

I'm fine with the Cap in my Civil War display, but I really dislike all the blue on Black Widow. I'm thinking about getting another Agent 13 torso and putting that on black legs for the Civil War Black Widow.

I think the jewel thief minifigure would work well for Black Widow's suit (except for the little bit of yellow showing on the torso).

[Spoddy]

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Edited February 17, 2021 by Spoddy

[GoldenNinja3000]

I think the jewel thief minifigure would work well for Black Widow's suit (except for the little bit of yellow showing on the torso).

yeah, but I really don't like the yellow showing. I only use CMF torsos if they don't have any yellow skin showing.

Edited March 16, 2016 by Captain Nemo
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[Ultron]

Civil War Cap is fine EXCEPT for the fact they gave us this megablocks "happy Cap" face again. Literally every other character in these sets has some sort of angry expression, except him.

[Scarilian]

I think the jewel thief minifigure would work well for Black Widow's suit (except for the little bit of yellow showing on the torso).

I have 2 of that figure and the details are really not clear enough. Only part that stands out is the silver pieces used for the zips, so its not the best choice for Widow. Plus it has the previously mentioned yellow bit along with a lot of the blue thatGoldenNinja3000 was hoping to avoid,. Also, Black Widow's movie suit is pretty much just black with no other details other than belts and straps...

Mark 7 Iron Man is not new, he was in the older / first Quinjet set ;)

It is new, however it is a variant of an older set. Same design but they've used updated pieces and printing techniques so its not the same when compared.

You can see comparisons here

[N_Cat]

I have 2 of that figure and the details are really not clear enough. Only part that stands out is the silver pieces used for the zips, so its not the best choice for Widow. Plus it has the previously mentioned yellow bit along with a lot of the blue thatGoldenNinja3000 was hoping to avoid,. Also, Black Widow's movie suit is pretty much just black with no other details other than belts and straps...

It is new, however it is a variant of an older set. Same design but they've used updated pieces and printing techniques so its not the same when compared.

You can see comparisons here

The article you linked to said that he definitely considers them the same figure in the conclusion. Not great evidence.

[Scarilian]

The article you linked to said that he definitely considers them the same figure in the conclusion. Not great evidence.

He did that after acknowledging and demonstrating the different colours, printing thickness, helmet and other aspects. He values them as reissues, which was likely the intention to make similar versions to the originals using the same designs. However, they are still variants due to them not being the same figures and having differences that can be seen when the two are compared. Multiple selling or Lego cataloguing sites including Brickset and Bricklink classify them as different versions also - they are already accepted as being variants and as the article demonstrates, they are not duplicates of the original releases.

Edited March 15, 2016 by Scarilian

[Numbuh1Nerd]

Civil War Cap is fine EXCEPT for the fact they gave us this megablocks "happy Cap" face again. Literally every other character in these sets has some sort of angry expression, except him.

I think that's more accurate than you guys are giving them credit for. Everybody is else is really torn up about having to do this, but Cap's probably just like "Finally! An excuse to kick that guy's shiny metal megablocks!"

[Legocity2713]

He did that after acknowledging and demonstrating the different colours, printing thickness, helmet and other aspects. He values them as reissues, which was likely the intention to make similar versions to the originals using the same designs. However, they are still variants due to them not being the same figures and having differences that can be seen when the two are compared. Multiple selling or Lego cataloguing sites including Brickset and Bricklink classify them as different versions also - they are already accepted as being variants and as the article demonstrates, they are not duplicates of the original releases.

I for one am counting them as re-releases. (Lord know I'm not paying big bucks for the 2012 figure with a difference in its coat of paint)

I mean in the grand scheme of things, if someone is ordering the figures on eBay years from now, will they really care about a difference as small as Lego's adjustment in printing? I mean I have duplicates of CMFs from the same batch/box that look different as far as the sheen or brightness of colors go.

Edited March 15, 2016 by Legocity2713

[Mapashote]

I for one am counting them as re-releases. (Lord know I'm not paying big bucks for the 2012 figure with a difference in its coat of paint)

I mean in the grand scheme of things, if someone is ordering the figures on eBay years from now, will they really care about a difference as small as Lego's adjustment in printing? I mean I have duplicates of CMFs from the same batch/box that look different as far as the sheen or brightness of colors go.

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[Rayduh562]

I for one am counting them as re-releases. (Lord know I'm not paying big bucks for the 2012 figure with a difference in its coat of paint)

I mean in the grand scheme of things, if someone is ordering the figures on eBay years from now, will they really care about a difference as small as Lego's adjustment in printing? I mean I have duplicates of CMFs from the same batch/box that look different as far as the sheen or brightness of colors go.

People who care are silly, even the author says so.

As far as there being another iron man fig released in the 4th CACW set, what iron would it be? From the trailers I've seen he only uses 1 suit.

Edited March 16, 2016 by Rayduh562

[eldiano]

I actually care, printing makes a huge difference. Lego notoriously updates their minifigures of the same set close to the end, but in my eyes little variations make it almost a new figure... Mark VII is cheaper yes, back in 2012 the only way to get him was buying the now expensive quinjet set. But this version has the metallic gold mask and updated print.

[rob-ot5000]

RE: Iron Man and Loki

I'll start by saying that I own neither version of either figure and that the previously linked article is my only point of reference for any of this.

Iron Man's printing is nearly identical, with the color variations being incredibly subtle. As for the helmet, there are some slight differences, but they don't seem to be significant enough to classify it as a new variation as far as I can tell from the pictures. I have a few Iron M(e)n, and their helmets all raise to varying degrees before coming detached. Personally, for this figure, I don't see the need for distinction, unless there is some greater difference in the helmet that I'm not seeing, or have already forgotten reading about. The inclusion/exclusion of the thruster pieces as a criterion is pretty asinine since they are standard, readily-available pieces. As long as potential sellers are clear on whether they are included or not, I don't see an issue.

For Loki, the difference in color of the printed golden bits on his body seems for more pronounced than on Iron Man. I feel that the difference is enough, in these photos, to justify the existence of the 'a' variation-designator. However, colors often vary between batches of the exact same product, and I do not know how representative these examples are for each individual figure. And really, unless you have a huge population sample, who could say? Furthermore, unless I were holding both figures in hard, I'm hard-pressed to say whether I could tell which was which unless I were already thoroughly familiar with each one on its own, and that's assuming the printing is consistent for each production run. If this were a figure I really, really wanted (it isn't, though I may still get it for such a low price), I doubt I'd be disappointed in either version. But for crazy people (completionists ), I could see how this might be awkward.

TL;DR - Eh, whatever. I don't really care.

[Captain Britain]

I've got both variants of Iron Man and Loki - I agree with rob-ot5000 about Loki justifying the 'a' variation but I really wouldn't say Iron Man is a completely new one (think he's been given sh231 as a number?). Didn't we get the same sort of thing with Venom? One with black spines from the Spidey set and then another one without from the Juniors set but they are the same minifig?

[kevkipo]

People who care are silly, even the author says so.

As far as there being another iron man fig released in the 4th CACW set, what iron would it be? From the trailers I've seen he only uses 1 suit.

Maybe the new one, but without a Helmet? Like Cap in BP Chase.

[Galaad]

I'm pretty sure there will be Battle Damaged Cap' and Iron Man

[KCMatze]

I am still of the opinion that it's pretty much the same Iron Man figure... in 2 months ebay and bricklink will be flooded with these and you will never know for sure which is which until you get both and compare them in person.

[Mapashote]

I am still of the opinion that it's pretty much the same Iron Man figure... in 2 months ebay and bricklink will be flooded with these and you will never know for sure which is which until you get both and compare them in person.

BL is actually flodded with "6869´s Iron man"

Edited March 16, 2016 by Mapashote

[mediumsnowman]

They're the same figure. Exact same design. So what if the shade of printing is a little lighter or darker? They're still pretty much the same. You could go back, get two 6869's from two separate productions runs, pull out two Iron Men, and you'll probably find they aren't exactly the same. Classifying them as variants seems ridiculous to me.