Nsk97 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 The thing is we've seen a photo of a bag containing 50+ of these figures... If someone has taken this many then there should be enough of them at the factory that these won't be missed... So why print that many up of a fig just as a prelim test? The lack of back print also doesn't make sense for something that's been printed to this quantity. Both customisers and bootleggers have printed the Beyond design perfectly so why would Lego dig out 8yr old artwork to print up? Surely the design team would be asking why before anyone else. The wings have no bleed to the artwork which is also a schoolboy error... The design team wouldn't make that mistake on a print run whether prelim or not... They also wouldn't put keylines around the edge knowing the cutting form needs a bleed tolerance to cover any slight movement as it runs through the press. These also look like they've been cut by hand hence the very sharp points to the wings. The copyright text is also way off centre on those blue wings which is a poor mistake to make. If these do turn out to be even close to the final thing then it represents the laziest and poorest design choices Lego has made in the entire theme. Every character to date has had a new design when required however slight so I just don't see why their flagship character, and he is whether people like it or not, would even be considered for something like this. Couldn't agree with you more!
Deathstroke77 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 all parts officially printed including inside helmet! so they are certainly 100% REAL :) I really don't like those wings, they look sketchy around the edges, I have been a silent observer of this topic for a while now but I can't not comment on these supposed real minifigures. I must say I completely agree with Sir Gareth these are quite clearly fake. Even for prelims these are far too poorly done and lego would not recolour a print from a theme discontinued years ago. Plus lego stamps on the wings do not in anyway prove they are official as they would not be hard to forge. Also not to be cynical but Derzy09 hardly appears a reliable source given his bizarre dodging of questions and inability to take more photos. Furthermore he became a member literally a few hours ago so unlike say Just2good, Sir Gareth, CM4Sci etc he is hardly reputable or trusted as a source. Didn't they do that with the Electro Batman? That torso was a recoloured print of the grey and black torso from 2006, it could be real. That's just the thing for me though. The Joker Nurse was apparently from a source that gets pre release figures too... We've had around 17 Batman variants and they've never recoloured an existing design. The Juniors Batcave used an existing torso but changed from dark to light blue but there was no recolouring anywhere just a change of accent colour. For a black and red variant I'd expect a new design, maybe similar to the game design rather than just recolouring for the first time. Some people may be getting things that they genuinely believe are legit and from a source that has historically been reliable but there's nothing about the things I've seen that ring true. Never recoloured a design... ELECTRO BATMAN GUYS STOP FORGETTING ELECTRO BATMAN!
Robianco Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Never recoloured a design... ELECTRO BATMAN GUYS STOP FORGETTING ELECTRO BATMAN! How is the Electro Batman design a recoloured version? It may use a Bat Symbol that's been used on a previous incarnation but even the Arctic Batman uses the regular black and yellow variants Bat Symbol. The suit itself is modified with the electro points over it and also has a unique print on it's cowl. What we're looking at here is a design with zero modification or customising by the design team but just printed in a different colour. Or am I missing something?
Sir Gareth Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Never recoloured a design... ELECTRO BATMAN GUYS STOP FORGETTING ELECTRO BATMAN! Except you're the one remembering incorrectly because unlike the black and red Batman, Electro Batman's not a recolor of an old print; it may be similar, but not identical. Edited November 1, 2015 by Sir Gareth
Deathstroke77 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Right so I've been away for a few days and I come back to this, and I've taken a good look at these. I must say the Grey and Blue batman looks more convincing than the supposed 'Beyond' figure, but it still doesn't scream legit. LEGO wouldn't re-use an original print (Electro Batman was re-used as it was to reflect his LB2 appearance) 10 years after its original release, especially not for an Adam West minifigure. If that was to be the 66 Bats figure it's real lazy from LEGO, and isn't 76053 meant to be a Suicide Squad kind of set? If it is, I would see them using Batfleck again over a re-print like that. With the Beyond figure, that has to be fake. You can see the grey background in the wings and that screams to me that it's just a paint job, albeit a good one other than in those places. With the torso... That can't be legit either, especially if it genuinely doesn't have back printing, no Superheroes fig has had that ever. They would also use a proper torso with the proper BB logo than a coloured bat-symbol that barely resembles that logo, and if it is legit, then it is an extremely poor figure. The Joker Nurse could be real, but I could see them using a Black Widow hairpiece in green rather than his Tumbler hair piece. The torso definitely looks legit/half-decent to me. That's my view on these supposed 'New 2016 figures'.
Robianco Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) The Joker Nurse is even more obviously fake to me for the reasons I've stated previously. I'm hoping that when these figures are finally released they're proven fake for a couple of reasons... not least because I think they're quite bad. ...and why is it that the people who have these are also the only people in the world who still only have vga quality cameras on their phone?! Edited November 1, 2015 by Robianco
psqidexslizer248 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Right so I've been away for a few days and I come back to this, and I've taken a good look at these. I must say the Grey and Blue batman looks more convincing than the supposed 'Beyond' figure, but it still doesn't scream legit. LEGO wouldn't re-use an original print (Electro Batman was re-used as it was to reflect his LB2 appearance) 10 years after its original release, especially not for an Adam West minifigure. If that was to be the 66 Bats figure it's real lazy from LEGO, and isn't 76053 meant to be a Suicide Squad kind of set? If it is, I would see them using Batfleck again over a re-print like that. With the Beyond figure, that has to be fake. You can see the grey background in the wings and that screams to me that it's just a paint job, albeit a good one other than in those places. With the torso... That can't be legit either, especially if it genuinely doesn't have back printing, no Superheroes fig has had that ever. They would also use a proper torso with the proper BB logo than a coloured bat-symbol that barely resembles that logo, and if it is legit, then it is an extremely poor figure. The Joker Nurse could be real, but I could see them using a Black Widow hairpiece in green rather than his Tumbler hair piece. The torso definitely looks legit/half-decent to me. That's my view on these supposed 'New 2016 figures'. 76053 appears to draw inspiration from the comics (although maybe the character designs will be influenced by the movie) so I wouldn't count on it including a Batfleck figure. But, just the same, those Batman's with plastic wings don't look like they'd belong in it. The Joker Nurse is even more obviously fake to me for the reasons I've stated previously. I'm hoping that when these figures are finally released they're proven fake for a couple of reasons... not least because I think they're quite bad. ...and why is it that the people who have these are also the only people in the world who still only have vga quality cameras on their phone?! At least this will only last a few more months tops. London Toy Fair is the end of January and the Deadshot set should be leaked by then. Edited November 1, 2015 by psqidexslizer248
Deathstroke77 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Except you're the one remembering incorrectly because unlike the black and red Batman, Electro Batman's not a recolor of an old print; it may be similar, but not identical. Well they definitely used elements of an old print with the batsymbol and belt (i believe), no other superheroes figure has used an old print so far except Harley's hat and a few other hair/headpieces (e.g Two-Face's hair)
vstat05 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Well they definitely used elements of an old print with the batsymbol and belt (i believe), no other superheroes figure has used an old print so far except Harley's hat and a few other hair/headpieces (e.g Two-Face's hair) But that isn't surprising as that's been done before, the mummies in the Pharaoh's Quest and Scooby Doo themes for example. And Electro Batman only reuses the symbol, the belt is completely different. As for this "new" dark blue Batman, it reuses the 2006 symbol and muscles, but it has the belt of Scuba Batman, except recolored yellow. Edited November 1, 2015 by Raptor of Vengeance
KCMatze Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 The belt on the Electro Batman figure is totally diffrerent, as is the rest of the print except the Batsymbol... that is really the only thing. And it is a totally unique design and not just a recolor. look here: Original Batman and Electro Batman No way one would that call a recolor ;-)
adotnamedstud Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 How about that leaked BvS Superman? He has moulded boots too. No offense but I'd rather have printed legs than moulded. Hopefully one day we get a mix! The light blue lines on Supes look a bit odd too. The hair is pretty meh along with that. Maybe it's just the legs that throw me off.
psqidexslizer248 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 How about that leaked BvS Superman? He has moulded boots too. No offense but I'd rather have printed legs than moulded. Hopefully one day we get a mix! The light blue lines on Supes look a bit odd too. The hair is pretty meh along with that. Maybe it's just the legs that throw me off. Where????
Sir Gareth Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 How about that leaked BvS Superman? He has moulded boots too. No offense but I'd rather have printed legs than moulded. Hopefully one day we get a mix! The light blue lines on Supes look a bit odd too. The hair is pretty meh along with that. Maybe it's just the legs that throw me off. What leaked BvS Superman?...
CM4Sci Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Gotta be Votvik. Edited November 1, 2015 by CM4Sci
psqidexslizer248 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) (Snip) Thanks you very much. Supes would look better with some leg printing, but overall, a pretty good looking figure. Very glad to see there will be a booted version. Edited November 1, 2015 by psqidexslizer248
Nsk97 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Is it just me or do Superman's legs look a different colour to his torso?
Bricky Dee Williams Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Wow, love the hair. And the boots are gladly welcomed, even Supergirl has boots before him. And he was out three years earlier. Either way, I can't wait to see the sets, we've now seen the three main heroes in Minifigure form.
TheLegoExperience Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Gotta be Votvik. Thanks, it looks like it's a different minifigure than the one in the small set, one has boots and the other doesn't.
CM4Sci Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Why no boots in the actual set, I have no idea. There's also this leak
psqidexslizer248 Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 Why no boots in the actual set, I have no idea. There's also this leak Superman is in two different sets, the smaller one must have that head and that figure while the larger has this other figure.
Sir Gareth Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Why no boots in the actual set, I have no idea. There's also this leak: I do The Superman minifigure with dual-molded legs will be in the largest set, while the plain one's in the smallest, much like Batman in this year's summer wave. That head's from the LEGO Dimensions pack, and may not even be in the BvS sets. Seems too cheerful. Edited November 1, 2015 by Sir Gareth
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