MaxSupercars Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Also the colours aren't realistic. The yellow parts aren't the Caterpillar Highway Yellow. Lego should really get this stuff right. OMG... Imagine that exist other makes than CAT and other countries than US... and no one say you to buy Lego if you are not satisfied... :) Max... Edited July 12, 2015 by MaxSupercars Quote
Epic Technic Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Also the colours aren't realistic. The yellow parts aren't the Caterpillar Highway Yellow. Lego should really get this stuff right. Another completely stupid comment. Why should LEGO be in Cat yellow? when they have never even produced a Caterpillar set. LEGO can have their own colors. Maybe you should start to think about what you're saying. As Max said you don't need to get LEGO if you're just going to complain. Quote
Saberwing40k Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Another completely stupid comment. Why should LEGO be in Cat yellow? when they have never even produced a Caterpillar set. LEGO can have their own colors. Maybe you should start to think about what you're saying. As Max said you don't need to get LEGO if you're just going to complain. He (andythenorth) is being sarcastic, and parodying the fandom trend of whining about stupid stuff. You really should relax, it's all good fun. Quote
allanp Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Whilst I recognise andythenorths comments as sarcastic British humour, I don't think expressing a dislike for colour vomit is equal to "the fandom trend of whining". You can't oppose a different view point by just labelling it something bad. Edited July 12, 2015 by allanp Quote
Erik Leppen Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 You can't oppose a different view point by just labelling it something bad. Then why is it called "color vomit"? That's not a very neutral term in the first place. Quote
Paul Boratko Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I always assumed that the evolution of color changing(and part design) over the years was to make building the models from instructions easier for kids(and some adults) Quote
allanp Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Then why is it called "color vomit"? That's not a very neutral term in the first place. I wasn't the one who invented the term "colour vomit". I only used it because we all know what it means. When I say a view point, I don't just label it as something bad and leave at that. I try to explain why I hold that view point. I might do a crap job of explaining it but I do try . I always assumed that the evolution of color changing(and part design) over the years was to make building the models from instructions easier for kids(and some adults) That's true. It seems like overkill to me. I honestly can't think of any mistake I made as a kid that would not have been made had the parts been colour coded like they are today. They even have 1:1 drawings of many parts on the page you need to use them. Though I do remember building 8868 when I was 9 and putting one of the diffs in backwards. Quote
Paul Boratko Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) I can see why Lego made that new double sided red clutch gear.. That part was a no brainer.. I can't tell you how many e-mails I got over the years from people telling me that they couldn't get their gearboxes to work in a model of mine that they were building and the first thing I would ask is if the gears were in backwards and everytime except for one, that was the case.. The other time it turned out to be a deformed gear with 2 teeth molded together.. I also recently talked to some adults at Brickmagic in North Carolina and the new red gear discussion came up and I was surprised at how many people admitted to building models with the clutch gears backwards and then had to tear a whole modle apart to flip it around.. Edited July 12, 2015 by Paul Boratko Quote
Lipko Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) That's true. It seems like overkill to me. I honestly can't think of any mistake I made as a kid that would not have been made had the parts been colour coded like they are today. They even have 1:1 drawings of many parts on the page you need to use them. Though I do remember building 8868 when I was 9 and putting one of the diffs in backwards. Yes, but that time there were much less pins (2L friction, 3L friction, 2L frictionless, frictionless axle-pin, and 1L with stud). 2L, 3L and only even length axles. Nowadays how many we have? I for one would get brain damage if would have to use the 1:1 axle drawings in instructions all the time to differentiate between 9L and 10L axles. With different colors for even and odd lengths, I never have to use that helper image. Plus expressing your dislike all the time the topic comes up and it's about something you can't really change, is whining. Honestly guys sometimes you seem to be so far away the real art of Lego Technic Edited July 12, 2015 by Lipko Quote
rollermonkey Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I like the two colors for odd and even axles. Makes life less miserable when searching for parts. If you prefer black 3L pins over blue, there's thousands on BL, go buy some. Quote
Epic Technic Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I like the two colors for odd and even axles. Makes life less miserable when searching for parts. So true, it would literally take me hours to find pieces if they weren't color coded. Quote
sm1995 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I like the two colors for odd and even axles. Makes life less miserable when searching for parts. If you prefer black 3L pins over blue, there's thousands on BL, go buy some. Eh, I agree with you to a certain extent. IDK about you guys but after a while it becomes pretty easy to guess the axle size just by looking at them. So while color coding makes it easier to sort things out and find pieces, I don't really think its necessary. On my last MOC ( which was a truck) I had to use an illegal technique for the grill because the #9 axle isn't available in black So, it goes both ways really. Quote
CP5670 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I can live with the color coded pieces, but the use of bright colors such as blue and red was a bad idea. They look especially ugly on yellow models. The worst offenders are the blue pins because they're so common. I've tried to stock up on the old black 3L ones for my MOCs. The tans and grays are more neutral colors and don't stand out quite as much. Quote
Blakbird Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 This topic is another "why" question that we can't possibly answer, but the speculated answer seems to have a high probability. They want to sell the sets to a younger audience, so they have to make them easier to build. Color coding parts makes it easier to find them and harder to screw up. This theory has additional evidence based on the super simple instructions which add only a few parts per step in recent years. Quote
bonox Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I had to use an illegal technique for the grill because the #9 axle isn't available in black I've made liberal use of an axle 10 and pair of sidecutters before..... If you go round gently a few times before snipping through you can get the nice rounded end of a factory part. (well, almost). Quote
DrJB Posted July 13, 2015 Author Posted July 13, 2015 ... this topic is another "why" question that we can't possibly answer ... True, but it's good to get a feel as to what other people think, isn't it? Quote
Madoca 1977 Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 42009 used lots of 2L black pins instead of blue 3L, to have boom built without blue dots: (off-topic) I think that designers used black pins in purpose of sliding boom smoothly. Personally, I like my chaotic pin box. Thanks to the color code, I can find any pieces in the box instantly. Quote
Lipko Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 (off-topic) I think that designers used black pins in purpose of sliding boom smoothly. This might be true, I also experienced that 3L pins can stick out a tiny bit, enough to jam two sliding beams. Quote
DrJB Posted July 13, 2015 Author Posted July 13, 2015 (off-topic) I think that designers used black pins in purpose of sliding boom smoothly. Fascinating, I just learned something new this morning. Thank you for Sharing! Quote
Moz Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Personally, I like my chaotic pin box. Thanks to the color code, I can find any pieces in the box instantly. I'm exactly the opposite, and I suspect that's why I can afford to be a colour purist. I have a lot of little compartments, each holding only one or two different parts (and when it's two they're very different parts so it's easy to tell). Thanks to everything being organised I can find stuff very quickly, even the "I have about four of that weird part" ones. I collect black, odd-length axles and black pins so I can build models that have reasonably sane colour schemes. Quote
Paul Boratko Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) I did a car model a few years ago that had a remote opening door mechanism and it was important that the blue pins be inserted in a certain way (2L end pointing downwards) so that the doors would open and close smoothly.. Otherwise they would get hung up on that very small portion of pin that sticks out.. Edited July 13, 2015 by Paul Boratko Quote
N-4K0 Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 So it wasn't my imagination tricking me when I experienced this myself Quote
allanp Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Plus expressing your dislike all the time the topic comes up and it's about something you can't really change, is whining. what I said was this: I get the reasons behind it, but red, blue and yellow/tan like colours are not neutral, they clash with everything making the finished model not look so pretty. So I propose this: This means that I get the need for colour co-ordination but maybe it could be done in a better way. Whilst I may have expressed my dislike for colour vomit before I do do not remember specifically saying that proposal for less intrusive colours before but if I have please accept my (in)sincere apologies and no, it's not whining. Hey, I got my longer pneumatics didn't I, that look very suspiciously like my design that I proposed so who says you can't change anything. You are such a pessimist . Quote
dr_spock Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 (off-topic) I think that designers used black pins in purpose of sliding boom smoothly. Personally, I like my chaotic pin box. Thanks to the color code, I can find any pieces in the box instantly. I do the same with my smaller collection. Quote
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