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I think Sci is right, because in larger picture they look like short legs, so I was wrong and it is little Nelson, also I just noticed those are new torso printing on the Stone Warriors.

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I really like these sets. This is probably one of my favorite waves of Ninjago ever released. The light house is my favorite set. I love the Echo Zane and Gizmo. This is definitely a day one purchase. I hope we will see pictures of the Airjitzu Temple Grounds and the Samurai X-Cave at NY Toy Fair.

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If I keep pushing money on the screen. Nothing's happening. I need them now.

I'm SO glad descriptions for these sets were vague. I would have formulated something completely different in my head if they were detailed, and I'd be disappointed. What's here is good!

My thoughts:

-Kryptarium Escape $24.99

I was expecting this set to be about the size of the Spinjitzu Dojo. Disappointed that I was wrong, but that doesn't at all mean the set is bad. It invokes the feeling of Dojo Showdown, and features unique characters to boot. Now I'm a bit disappointed that Soto and the Stone Warrior are in prison garb, but I'm not going to complain too much. I'm just glad they're there. Soto also has a map to Tiger Widow Island, which is nice. I'm disappointed though with lack of consistency in the characters, as Airjitzu Kai throws things off. I digress. This set is superb for what it is, and will warrant a day one purchase if it weren't for another particular set that I'll talk about later. Oh yeah, and Zane Hair. Very big deal.

-Titanium Ninja Tumbler $29.99

Very surprised by this set. It's about time Zane got a heavy rig sort of vehicle. It's rather compact, but that doesn't mean that there isn't anything on the inside (which I wish we knew the details of). This set also includes Zane's Hair which is a plus, but I would of rather had Lego keep that exclusive to Krypatrium, and given Zane his new flat silver/white wrap. I'm really disappointed that those Nindroids have no hoods. They are the only drawback to this set. They do include a spectral Techno-Blade though.

-Cole's Rock Raider $39.99

(Oh how that name tugs at my heart) So, is it just me, or does the Purple Ninja have a white face? I also can't really tell what people mean by the purple ninja having shorter legs. You can't really tell from the images provided. Anyway. This set is not exactly the most creative of the bunch, but it certainly has merit as a 4x4 vehicle. The Stone Soldier and Stone Scout are nice, but let me be honest here... I really, really want Kozu to show up in this wave. It's just odd to leave him out. I'll hold my tongue though, as there are still two sets that need to be revealed. The set includes a spectral Elemental Blade. But the color isn't necessarily exciting.

-Ronin M.E.C. (not really sure on the name) $49.99

I had high hopes for this set, but I was expecting more olive green. The net function is mediocre, and I don't see the practicality of using stud shooters to fire it. This is one of those sets that I'll have to see built before I can make a proper opinion on it. Yay for the Exo-Force reference, but the Skullkin mech is extremely disappointing. Krazi and Frackjaw are disappointing as well. I understand the choice of an ax as a spectral weapon though. All but the Nunchucks of Lightning use rubber pieces initially so options were slim. Aside from being a large mech, this set is probably my least favorite of Ninjago 2016.

-Lloyd's Green NRG Dragon $59.99

Really love the look of this dragon. I love the small homages to the Golden Dragon to signify that it's the same (sans gold power), although it is much bigger. Don't like the head very much, though. I love all of the little extra pieces included for the Crew of Misfortune's Keep. It's also cool that members of the Crew have had their epaulets upgraded for Stone Army gear to match Nadakhan (who uses Kozu's upper torso). I'd like to take this moment to mention that I'm really glad that we got a couple more sets out of Skybound. It's been my favorite season so far, so I was disappointed that it would get so few sets. The lantern tail is a nice addition as well.

-Lighthouse Siege Defense $79.99

Where do I begin! This set is gorgeous. It's all that I could ask from a set to represent this scene from the show. Echo Zane and Gizmo are fantastic additions. The minifig selection for this set is to die for. The size of the set is impressive, and all of the additional furniture and contraptions within are great additions as well. And may I be the first to point out the absolutely divine box art for this set. This is the first time I have ever wanted to mount a Lego Box on my wall as a work of art. I haven't felt so adamant to own a set this way since the Fire Temple. This is, no holds barred, a day one purchase.

-Stealth Raider 2.0 $99.99?

I really love how this set was executed. The curves are very futuristic, and best of all it transforms sorta (my weakness). So the side treads form separate into other vehicles, and then the plane comes off the top again, but it looks like the portion that Cole is in can also eject from the model as well. Not quite sure though. It's an awesome homage to not only be getting all four Ninja in the set, but also an Anacondrai as well. It's unfortunate that it has no tail, but oh well. It's nice to have Chen back, but I'm surprised that he's not accompanied by Clouse. Chen's Mech is also a bit lackluster, but it's nice that his throne is included. I also like how this set comes with Sensei Yang as well.

Very excited about this release. Love the new Gis for the Ninja. Odd that Lloyd is nowhere to be found among the sets with the lantern logo.

I have high hopes for the Samurai X Cave and the Airjitzu temple grounds. Such a shame that they haven't shown up at either of these Toy Fairs. Here's hoping that at least one of them show up in New York.

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Did anyone else notice the new piece of the bottoms of all the lanterns? It looks almost like a partial chain.

Interesting find. I wish LEGO had have done a version that goes on studs first, though.

The light house is actually very close to the source material

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It's a lighthouse made of stone with Japanese traits, not that hard to fit the definition. But really, it could hardly be further from the actual lighthouse itself without becoming something else entirely. The color palette is wrong, instead of blues and greys they've replaced it with reds, browns and light grey. The lower and middle floors have been revamped after a pagoda (when really only the first floor needed it), the top floor has been split into two wooden floors with spindly supports and no table flipping function, the entire basement floor has been turned into a cave system and there has never been a dock, a mailbox or a radio antenna. They didn't even do the front door correctly.

It's grown on me a bit, but I can't say I like it when I know what it's meant to convey. If I didn't know this was meant to be the Lighthouse from the show, I never would never have realized it was meant to be.

If I'm not mistaken, they're not bringing back the original Ninja gi torso, but introducing the first physical versions of the "revamped" versions of those torsos as seen in the Ninjago stage show and the new LEGOLAND Ninjago expansion. These feature slight changes from the original gi, although they are clearly still meant as a throwback. At about 1:00 in

you can see these costumes on display. As you can see, not only do Lloyd and Nya get variants of this costume in the displays, but additionally, Zane's variant has silver arms (like in the new set pictures) and incorporates elements of his ZX costume in the lower part of his torso. Likewise, Kai's costume has dark red arms, again, like we see in these sets.

Fair point, but this year has had the distinct markings of a very low budget. Only three (potentially four with that new chain, but that might not be exclusive) new parts introduced in an entire year's worth of sets, the ninja reuse leg printing from last year in the first wave, the villains share printing and the Summer wave reuses virtually everything from a previous wave. The new suits are undeniably lifted from the very first year of sets with very minor changes, and every single one of the villains except Yang has had either little or no changes from what can be seen.

I can't think of any reason for why they've gone so cheap this year, other than that they siphoned off most of the budget in order to delay the NINJAGO movie, but even that doesn't make sense.

It's a bit frustrating seeing that two of the sets (both featuring Nya) still appear to be using the Skybound costumes, though.

That's because they're Skybound sets. (edit: correction, only one is at this point. Nya is in Ronin's set as well)

Can't say I'm liking the latest pictures. Lloyd's dragon looks like an oversized green chicken with a snake head, but Cole's vehicle isn't too bad. They're going to have to try very hard to disappoint me with the Samurai X cave, because I can't imagine how they're going to make it look anything like the show version.

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Reminder that the reusing of concepts and designs works well if you have the mentality that Lego is celebrate Ninjago's 5 year anniversary this year. Very, very few sets make it to that point, and likewise should be celebrated tremendously, and nostalgically.

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Oh my days!! It actually has elements from almost all of their past suits.

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Am I the only one who doesn't like new summer wave ninja outfits? I mean they are terrible, especially Zanes with titanium colored arms instead of white . I loved last 4 versions of ninjas outfits( Tournament, Zukin, Deepstone and Skybound)! But this outfits look like a cheap rehash, after 2 years of good looking costumes ninja get this? And this ties to overall theme of summer sets( except for Skybound leftovers) they kinda suck in my opinion. I got in Ninjago because I like Tournament of Elements wave, then Possession wave was even better, and now Skybound is awesome as well! I don't like what new theme looks like as of now, maybe with next season of show it'll grow on me, but I doubt it. On a unrelated note Lighthouse set looks awesome!
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Reminder that the reusing of concepts and designs works well if you have the mentality that Lego is celebrate Ninjago's 5 year anniversary this year. Very, very few sets make it to that point, and likewise should be celebrated tremendously, and nostalgically.

But it's not a celebration of the fifth anniversary. These sets are the second wave, not the first, so they've completely missed the deadline. And if these are to celebrate NINJAGO, then they've done it completely wrong. None of this stuff is classic or memorable at all. Frakjaw and incorrect Krazi? Chen and his knock-off Anacondrai? I'm actually having to recheck the images because of how forgettable the villains are. But it's just some random Nindroids and a few Stone Warriors, which is fine, I guess. But there's so much more that they could have done if they were celebrating NINJAGO's five years. Like:

  • The Four Weapons Blacksmith
  • Young Garmadon
  • Young Wu
  • Garmadon
  • Samukai
  • Kruncha and Nuckal
  • Skales
  • The Samurai Mech
  • Ultra Dragon
  • The Golden Weapons
  • A show accurate Lighthouse.
  • Overlord Dragon
  • Cyrus Borg
  • Borg Tower
  • Pixal
  • Any one of the ten+ elemental masters we never saw

And instead we get a handful of Nindroids, two skulkins (of whom one is incorrect), a new Ultra Sonic Raider and... Chen. Sure, there's a purple ninja but that's not exactly celebrating anything from NINJAGO that happened before the fifth anniversary. They had mountains of opportunities, sets, etc to choose from and that's what we get. I think it's pretty obvious this wave came about soley because the movie was delayed.

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With any luck they might actually look good in the sets, but I'm worried about the hoods.

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But it's not a celebration of the fifth anniversary. These sets are the second wave, not the first, so they've completely missed the deadline. And if these are to celebrate NINJAGO, then they've done it completely wrong. None of this stuff is classic or memorable at all. Frakjaw and incorrect Krazi? Chen and his knock-off Anacondrai? I'm actually having to recheck the images because of how forgettable the villains are. But it's just some random Nindroids and a few Stone Warriors, which is fine, I guess. But there's so much more that they could have done if they were celebrating NINJAGO's five years. Like:

  • The Four Weapons Blacksmith
  • Young Garmadon
  • Young Wu
  • Garmadon
  • Samukai
  • Kruncha and Nuckal
  • Skales
  • The Samurai Mech
  • Ultra Dragon
  • The Golden Weapons
  • A show accurate Lighthouse.
  • Overlord Dragon
  • Cyrus Borg
  • Borg Tower
  • Pixal
  • Any one of the ten+ elemental masters we never saw

Movie delay? Sure. So? Rebooted suffered from something similar. Look how it turned out.

Doesn't really matter what wave it is. It's during it's fifth year, right?

The Lighthouse is as accurate as it gets.

Aside from anything Cyrus Borg related, PIXAL, Kruncha, Nuckal, and potentially Garmadon, name one thing you've mentioned that would still be relevant at this point in time.

The reason why none of these things are in a set, is because they aren't relevant. According to the story, young Wu and Garmadon are flashback characters, Samukai and the Overlord are dead (if either of these characters show up in the two sets we haven't seen, then sure, they're relevant, but only then), Skales is no longer a villain, the Golden Weapons are now the Golden Master's armor, and the elemental masters have no true relevance to the story.

They aren't in sets for the sake of consistency to the story, which Lego helps create. Do keep in mind that where would many of the things you mention fit into the sets?

Redoing old weapons loses collectible value. Characters that exist for no more than five minutes total (aside from Nindroids apparently) don't drive sales (young Senseis/elemental masters).

Also keep in mind that Lego doesn't rehash sets (in action themes). If someone were to take on the moniker of Samurai X, however, than sure, a new Samurai Mech similar to the Final Flight of Destiny's Bounty and the Stealth Raider 2.0 would be fine (The other two simply would need a hard reboot to see the light of day as sets again).

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Movie delay? Sure. So? Rebooted suffered from something similar. Look how it turned out.

We're not discussing a theoretical wave. We're discussing an actual wave we've already seen final images of most sets. That's not even relevant to the discussion, Rebooted actually did do something new. These aren't.

Doesn't really matter what wave it is. It's during it's fifth year, right?

There's a reason why we celebrate anniversaries on the day they happen than five months later.

The Lighthouse is as accurate as it gets.

No, it really isn't.

Aside from anything Cyrus Borg related, PIXAL, and potentially Garmadon, name one thing you've mentioned that would still be relevant at this point in time.

The reason why none of these things are in a set, is because they aren't relevant. According to the story, young Wu and Garmadon are flashback characters, Samukai and the Overlord are dead (if either of these characters show up in the two sets we haven't seen, then sure, they're relevant, but only then), Skales is no longer a villain, the Golden Weapons are now the Golden Master's armor, and the elemental masters have no true relevance to the story.

They aren't in sets for the sake of consistency to the story, which Lego helps create.

I think the word you're looking for is not "relevant", but "around" and "anymore". If you do truly mean the word "relevant" then I'm not sure how you can call the random appearance of two skulkin relevant and a location such as the Four Weapons Blacksmith irrelevant. Or the evil Nindroids, or the Stone Army, or Chen. Every one of these things had their time in the story and ha no actual need to return, and any return is already going to be out of place by your own standards. But very well, I'll go through my list and explain them.

Four Weapons Blacksmith: Not destroyed, still viewed occasionally. As for the plot, the Lighthouse is a perfect example of how it could return.

Young Garmadon: As you said, flashback character. He can return at any time.

Young Wu: Flashback character, and more usable than Garmadon in the story because the older version isn't dead yet.

Garmadon: If Chen can come back, Garmadon can too.

Samukai: Had an appearance (of a kind) in the very first moments of the new season, that's anniversary celebration as it is.

Kruncha and Nuckal: Still make their appearance every now and again, and they're easily better choices for returning characters than Krazi and Frakjaw.

Skales: Still alive, last time we heard. Along with every other serpentine because none of them actually died. For you argument against him, Soto and Yang are perfect examples of characters who are far less prominent than Skales, yet returned anyway.

The Samurai Mech: IIRC one version still exists in the story, and if we can get a new Destiny's Bounty or Sonic Raider then why not the Samurai Mech as well?

Ultra Dragon: See Samurai Mech

The Golden Weapons: While not relevant to the story, the least we could have seen was each one getting a variant like the Sword of Fire. Throw in Young Garmadon, Young Wu and then you've got all you need for an exclusive anniversary set.

Overlord Dragon: The Overlord had a far more ambiguous death than Chen did, and I'm sure the writers could come up with some reason for him returning like this. He'd make a far better villain too.

The Elemental Masters: I don't know about you, but 10 people running around with elemental powers, one of whom was a fairly developed character, is still very relevant to future plots. There is no reason for them not to return, and people are already speculating they're going to in this season.

The only one I can't justify is Borg Tower.

Also keep in mind that Lego doesn't rehash sets (in action themes). If someone were to take on the moniker of Samurai X, however, than sure, a new Samurai Mech similar to the Final Flight of Destiny's Bounty and the Stealth Raider 2.0 would be fine (The other two simply would need a hard reboot to see the light of day as sets again).

But what you've just said makes no sense. The little blacksmith LEGO released in 2011 hardly qualifies as the Four Weapons blacksmith, which is the only one you've presented a reasonable case for in that it's a building. The Samurai Mech does not necessarily need Samurai X around, the story behind it could simply be a prototype Nya was working on before Wu told her no. As for Ultra Dragon, if the way dragons reach adulthood is by morphing into a giant four-headed albino dragon, there's no reason there could be no further changes or mutations.

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But it's not a celebration of the fifth anniversary. These sets are the second wave, not the first, so they've completely missed the deadline. And if these are to celebrate NINJAGO, then they've done it completely wrong. None of this stuff is classic or memorable at all. Frakjaw and incorrect Krazi? Chen and his knock-off Anacondrai? I'm actually having to recheck the images because of how forgettable the villains are. But it's just some random Nindroids and a few Stone Warriors, which is fine, I guess. But there's so much more that they could have done if they were celebrating NINJAGO's five years. Like:

  • The Four Weapons Blacksmith
  • Young Garmadon
  • Young Wu
  • Garmadon
  • Samukai
  • Kruncha and Nuckal
  • Skales
  • The Samurai Mech
  • Ultra Dragon
  • The Golden Weapons
  • A show accurate Lighthouse.
  • Overlord Dragon
  • Cyrus Borg
  • Borg Tower
  • Pixal
  • Any one of the ten+ elemental masters we never saw

And instead we get a handful of Nindroids, two skulkins (of whom one is incorrect), a new Ultra Sonic Raider and... Chen. Sure, there's a purple ninja but that's not exactly celebrating anything from NINJAGO that happened before the fifth anniversary. They had mountains of opportunities, sets, etc to choose from and that's what we get. I think it's pretty obvious this wave came about soley because the movie was delayed.

With any luck they might actually look good in the sets, but I'm worried about the hoods.

I bet they will only do something with the golden weapons and Overlord in the finality, as they are both legendary.

Also, if they bring the golden weapons back now, they might have to get rid of them again,which is rather annoying in my opinion.

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Actually, a significant anniversary can be marked all through the anniversary year. There may be extra effort on the precise day, but something as fluid as a toy launch date (that varies from market to market) is impossible to pin to one day.

So these sets do mark the fifth year of the theme.

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Lloyd's dragon looks like an oversized green chicken with a snake head

Not sure how you think the head looks like a snake. A snake's head is usually rounded, not freakishly pointy.

I really wish they would have revisited the Ultra Dragon, though. It's random disappearance was never explained, and this'd give a nice excuse to reintroduce it.

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Actually, a significant anniversary can be marked all through the anniversary year. There may be extra effort on the precise day, but something as fluid as a toy launch date (that varies from market to market) is impossible to pin to one day.

So these sets do mark the fifth year of the theme.

I was struggling to find the words to say it, but you phrased it exactly how I think about it.

@Mandate Sure, there are a lot of things that "could have been", but there are always choices and compromises under the surface that have made this wave what it is. If this wave were marketed as "NINJAGO 5th Anniversery wave", then I'd say the designers did a bad job and missed a lot of locations and characters, but that's not the case. We are getting a new wave (set in the present time in the show), with a significantly increased amount of returning villains, vehicles, locations, etc. and suits that are a throwback to the very beginning of Ninjago. Compromises always leave something left to be desired, but personally I think the design team handled this one fairly well.

In my opinion, I like the throwback suits. They would make for good leaders suit in an army of original gi ninja's.

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This wave is looking good! My wallet is toast again.

Ultra Sonic Raider 2.0 - Looks awesome! Chen is riding a dinosaur while sitting in his chair. Nuff said. Also: All 4 ninja fit in the vehicle!

Ronin Mech - Another Great set! Ronin's mech will definitely join my display next to the Samurai Mech. The Skulkin mech is nice, but I hope the fixed the breaking problem I had with skulkin legs in the first year.

Lloyd's Dragon - They named it NRG, and didn't give us an NRG lloyd. Shame, Lego, shame. The dragon looks Ok, might get it for that.

Lighthouse - Slightly disappointed that they changed it to a boxier shape. I'll probably just get that cool variant of Zane (Please don't spoil it for me, I haven't started skybound yet.) through B&P.

Kryptarium - Captain Soto, Zane with the right hair and a new stone warrior? Sold!

Zane's Tumbler - My favorite Vehicle of this wave. Looks incredibly solid, like the kind of vehicle you drive through a wall without slowing down.

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For the 5th anniversary wave of ninjago what are the weapons they use? I dont really see weapons for them as the bad guys have them all? Only the anniversary sets not the sky pirates

Also what are you guys talking about with there new outfits? There amazing! It combines all of the ninja suits in one! I really hope we get all the ninja in those suits with the temple grounds! I really dont want to buy the sonic raider 2.0 just for the ninja XD

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This wave is looking good! My wallet is toast again.

Ultra Sonic Raider 2.0 - Looks awesome! Chen is riding a dinosaur while sitting in his chair. Nuff said. Also: All 4 ninja fit in the vehicle!

Ronin Mech - Another Great set! Ronin's mech will definitely join my display next to the Samurai Mech. The Skulkin mech is nice, but I hope the fixed the breaking problem I had with skulkin legs in the first year.

Lloyd's Dragon - They named it NRG, and didn't give us an NRG lloyd. Shame, Lego, shame. The dragon looks Ok, might get it for that.

Lighthouse - Slightly disappointed that they changed it to a boxier shape. I'll probably just get that cool variant of Zane (Please don't spoil it for me, I haven't started skybound yet.) through B&P.

Kryptarium - Captain Soto, Zane with the right hair and a new stone warrior? Sold!

Zane's Tumbler - My favorite Vehicle of this wave. Looks incredibly solid, like the kind of vehicle you drive through a wall without slowing down.

NRG Lloyd was Golden Lloyd. That was his true potential. Also Goodluck getting new pieces from B&P, they have no new parts from any theme (with some very small exceptions). I wanted to see if I could buy some new shoulder armor and a Djinn Blade handle or two to make up for the sets I wasn't going to buy and didn't have them.

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I think the suits are nice, not only because it's a call back to the original suits but also it gives them all an original suit. I really like the darker tones on the arms and all the call backs to previous suits. The new head wraps are super nice! except Coles. I reallt don't like the swapped palette for that one.

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NRG Lloyd was Golden Lloyd. That was his true potential. Also Goodluck getting new pieces from B&P, they have no new parts from any theme (with some very small exceptions). I wanted to see if I could buy some new shoulder armor and a Djinn Blade handle or two to make up for the sets I wasn't going to buy and didn't have them.

B&P isn't back yet. The full update of parts should come after it's back.

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