[Model MOC] T-47 Airspeeder (Snowspeeder)

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

Weird, using panel pieces instead of tiles looks too sparse in my opinion. Looking good overall though (:

Yes, that was one of the weak points of this design, but I believe the roundness of the panel corners minimizes that to a certain degree; adding more to take in. Also I believe that the perspective of the model will be enhance once it is constructed with physical bricks (which is the usual of things coming from a computer screen).

[Arthur Schopenhauer]

Weird, using panel pieces instead of tiles looks too sparse in my opinion. Looking good overall though (:

At first i thought the same, but after looking more objectively to the panel version i changed my mind. In particular, the second solution looks certainly more accurate and better to me, the main (little, anyway) problem being the proportions of the squared hollow in the middle of the heatsink, which are difficult to reproduce in this scale. Probably, a look to the "real life" solid-brick appearance (as opposed to an LDD rendering) will reveal if it's better to omit that small detail (hollow), or to build it even in slightly altered proportion :)

Anyway i'm probably discussing about insignificant details :)

[1974]

Very nice MOC (the best I've seen for this model so far), but it's not a "T-47" nor a "snowspeeder" (Hint, neither are in Episode V)

Edit, here's the dialogue from TESB :

HAN :

"Not likely. Are the speeders ready?"

DECK OFFICER

"Not yet. We're having some trouble adapting them to the cold"

.. so they're not SNOWspeeders, but normal speeders that should not have been used on Hoth .

Next :

MEDICAL DROID :

"Sir, it will take quite a while to evaquate the t-forty-sevens"

LUKE :

"Well, forget about the heavy equipment. There's plenty of time to get the smaller modules on the transports"

.. so T-47 is some kinda 'module' .. might be Luke's favourite sleeping quarter- we'll never know - but it's _not_ a (snow) speeder ..

In short "T-47" (and all the other T-XX) is just another "12 parsec" .. Typical SW jibberish that we all love, that's been now made canon by Lucas/Disney, but it's not in the actaul movie

Cheers,

Ole

Edited June 24, 2016 by 1974

[Ber Teh Unicern]

Well, it's PROPER name is a "T-47 Airspeeder".

Edited June 25, 2016 by Ber Teh Unicern

[TheBeeze]

Tell me this wouldn't look bad @$$ on a Desert Planet....

Rebel Sandspeeder by Jesse Beeze, on Flickr

If only they made these pieces in all these colors..... *SIGH*

Edited June 25, 2016 by Thebeeze111

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

Very nice MOC (the best I've seen for this model so far), but it's not a "T-47" nor a "snowspeeder" (Hint, neither are in Episode V)

Edit, here's the dialogue from TESB :

HAN :

"Not likely. Are the speeders ready?"

DECK OFFICER

"Not yet. We're having some trouble adapting them to the cold"

.. so they're not SNOWspeeders, but normal speeders that should not have been used on Hoth .

Next :

MEDICAL DROID :

"Sir, it will take quite a while to evaquate the t-forty-sevens"

LUKE :

"Well, forget about the heavy equipment. There's plenty of time to get the smaller modules on the transports"

.. so T-47 is some kinda 'module' .. might be Luke's favourite sleeping quarter- we'll never know - but it's _not_ a (snow) speeder ..

In short "T-47" (and all the other T-XX) is just another "12 parsec" .. Typical SW jibberish that we all love, that's been now made canon by Lucas/Disney, but it's not in the actaul movie

Cheers,

Ole

Yes, "Snowspeeder" is the name used by the toy industry, just like "(Clone) Turbo Tank." Though since it was an airspeeder modified for the extreme weather conditions, such as the snow (to some extent), so technically it could be referred to as a "Snowspeeder."

Well, since the medical droid said "To evacuate the T-47s," I would assume he is referring to a vehicle, dunno? And I suppose those "Smaller modules," Luke was referring to could be of those vehicles that transported cargo within the base?

[1974]

Well, it's PROPER name is a "T-47 Airspeeder".

No, that is never used in the movie and that is what counts. What the toy industry names SW vehicles don't matter

Yes, "Snowspeeder" is the name used by the toy industry, just like "(Clone) Turbo Tank." Though since it was an airspeeder modified for the extreme weather conditions, such as the snow (to some extent), so technically it could be referred to as a "Snowspeeder."

Well, since the medical droid said "To evacuate the T-47s," I would assume he is referring to a vehicle, dunno? And I suppose those "Smaller modules," Luke was referring to could be of those vehicles that transported cargo within the base?

Exactly, it's a "toy" name, it's not canon

But I do wonder what it's original purpose was? Was it like a flying tow truck? Why would a speeder even have a tow cable and how would it be used? Odd desgin ..

I've never heard anyone refering to a vehicle as a "module" though

Anyway, smashing speeder! Too bad that wonderfull roof is long gone or else TLG could take some notes on this design that's totally MUCS (= Minifig UCS)

Edited June 25, 2016 by 1974

[Ber Teh Unicern]

Tell me this wouldn't look bad @$$ on a Desert Planet....

Rebel Sandspeeder by Jesse Beeze, on Flickr

If only they made these pieces in all these colors..... *SIGH*

Well, there is always the option to spray paint pieces.

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

But I do wonder what it's original purpose was? Was it like a flying tow truck? Why would a speeder even have a tow cable and how would it be used? Odd desgin ..

Yeah, the tow cable is pretty an impractical design; I don't see any airspeeder transporting cargo efficiently without it dangling around dangerously, unless there is a group of airspeeders towing along as well.

I've never heard anyone refering to a vehicle as a "module" though

Neither have I heard anyone refer to evacuating something, unless they were referring to living things or some sort of transportation (which can take on personification). Anyway, I assume that the origin of the name came from the creative people behind the design.

Anyway, smashing speeder! Too bad that wonderfull roof is long gone…

Yeah, it is unfortunate, as there is no other simple way to replicate this detail so concisely. Though there is the trans-black hinge plate that only appeared once in a very prized UCS set, which the only one of those parts available is just a mere CA $249.99)—that is the definition of rare . Regarding the retirement of the sunroof element, I assume it was because the fingers of that hinge plate holder broke easily, but they certainly can improved the design.

or else TLG could take some notes on this design that's totally MUCS (= Minifig UCS)

Too bad there is already word of another UCS Snowspeeder planned for 2016, though, I do not know if Lego will ever return to making smaller sized minifigure-scaled vehicles for their UCS line; I think the last one was of the Naboo Royal N-1 Starfighter.

[Ber Teh Unicern]

Actually, the Slave I is pretty minifig scale.

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

Actually, the Slave I is pretty minifig scale.

Well the thing is that it is not a smaller scaled ship like the airspeeder or the Naboo Starfighter.

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

I am in the process of finishing version 2 of my T-47 Airspeeder with improvements to the design, structure, and build of my T-47 Airspeeder, and in this exciting adventure involves rectifying the illegal techniques involved—as a part of my endeavor to render a quality model. So I was reading this PDF of builds that are considered illegal connections, presented by Jamie Barard, then this particular example caught my attention because it was present on my model as the tips for the laser cannons, and now I am prompted to address this area with additional revisions : )

There is not much of a big dispute over the half Technic pin not snapping into place since the transparent-red bar runs through it, but which design do you like, the one one on top or the one on bottom?

[Hold0511]

Both are good, but i'd take the top one - I prefer the larger barrel being the same colour grey, and have the darker grey at the end of the nozzle. Plus it shows off the red bar element better (I can see it catching the light easier when looking at different angles).

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

Both are good, but i'd take the top one - I prefer the larger barrel being the same colour grey, and have the darker grey at the end of the nozzle. Plus it shows off the red bar element better (I can see it catching the light easier when looking at different angles).

Valid points Hold—thank you for you input!

[SteelShadow104]

Great job on the whole design i love it so much, but i cant open the lxf file and id really like to build this . So can you pls send me the file to [snip]?

Edited June 28, 2016 by Brickdoctor
Please don't post your email address publicly.

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

Great job on the whole design i love it so much, but i cant open the lxf file and id really like to build this . So can you pls send me the file to [snip]?

Yeah, the attachment links keep breaking for some odd reason—Oky has made a topic explaining his experience of the same issue (though I did not read anything about Eurobricks resolving this).

The file that is up there now, which is currently broken, is of the old version which can be quite fragile in reality, but I am almost finish with the updates that I promised to accomplished to improve the build, and I will upload the file soon after.

Yeah there is this issue going on recently with the attachment files continuing to break after some time, and I am experiencing it as well…

Besides the fact that there is this issue with the attachment files continuing to break (dunno if it has been resolved yet), and that I am still in the process of making improvements to enhance build so others will enjoy the experience, you are currently in the state of "New Member," which prevents access to particular actions until you accumulated 10 posts.

If you have any other questions, you can check the site's FAQ section or ask one of the responsibly obliged members of the staff.

Oh and I believe there is a rule that advises to not openly post your email—welcome to Eurobricks!

Edited June 28, 2016 by Brickdoctor
Removed quoted email address.

[SteelShadow104]

well would you be able to just send the most up to date ldd to the email, id really like to get started...

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

well would you be able to just send the most up to date ldd to the email, id really like to get started...

Yes, I could again just re-upload the file that is already up there.

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

Re-uploaded the LDD file for the old Snowspeeder version—for any who is interested.

*FILE REMOVED*

*EDIT* I will be publishing version 2.0 soon…

Edited September 7, 2016 by LiLmeFromDaFuture

[SteelShadow104]

ty so much ^-^ and good luck on the re-design!

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

ty so much ^-^ and good luck on the re-design!

You are welcome.

[LiLmeFromDaFuture]

It seems like once I improve something about the Snowspeeder another possibility for improvement arises right after—like a domino effect! But that is in no means a complaint, because it is quite an exciting experience knowing that it is all for the better of a quality build, and it is such a delight when it all comes together so soundly!

Now when I made the first finished version of the T-47 Airspeeder, I threw together, to what I now consider, a shoddy display stand that just happened to work for the aircraft, because of how the underbelly was designed. Well, since I completely redesigned the cockpit, the entire body of the snowspeeder, that fragile section, which gracefully and conveniently joined the wings, went away without a second thought! Then I noticed this topic about display stands and came across this fascinating tripod design by someone who goes by "yellost"—I love triangles and the number 3.

Here his is original design:

Because I made a special one for my Tantive IV which I am rather proud of. It's a tripod which I tried to rebuild from memory in LDD. It looks something like this except that the ball connectors are somehow attached to the main bar to steady it. then I had to remove one of the inverted slopes on the bottom of the ship (the one right next to the round part with the small wheels) and slide the whole thing into place on top of the stand. It might look really flimsy like that, but in fact its right on the gravitational center of the model, so it works great.

The concise use of the train roofs for the base sold me on this amazing design—it is simple yet visually interesting! What more that had to be done before it was ready to display the T-47 came in the process of some refinements to the structure, per my requirements, and some reworking so it will accommodate the speeder efficiently and securely.

And now here is my rework of his with the WIP T-47:

The hinge brick provides a mount for a decorated round 2 x 2 tile, probably sporting the Rebel insignia (only if there exist the tiles with it printed on). Otherwise, it could mount a custom made UCS detail sticker.

Negatively the wing would hang over the display card considerably, which could make viewing from above difficult, but I personally will not be displaying a sticker (it is just for those who would be interested); I feel the 8 x 16 tile hurts the aesthetics of the sleek stand. Besides that, I need to test the stability.

[Hold0511]

Looks good - classy in its own right.

[Ceroknight]

The model looks great! I think it's really awesome that you are revisiting it to improve on it!

[anothergol]

I am in the process of finishing version 2 of my T-47 Airspeeder with improvements to the design, structure, and build of my T-47 Airspeeder, and in this exciting adventure involves rectifying the illegal techniques involved—as a part of my endeavor to render a quality model. So I was reading this PDF of builds that are considered illegal connections, presented by Jamie Barard, then this particular example caught my attention because it was present on my model as the tips for the laser cannons, and now I am prompted to address this area with additional revisions : )

There is not much of a big dispute over the half Technic pin not snapping into place since the transparent-red bar runs through it, but which design do you like, the one one on top or the one on bottom?

The connection isn't "illegal" because the pin doesn't snap/isn't secure (at all), but because it basically ruins the part over time, so I'd say the bottom one.

As for improvements, my only problem with your design would be the ends of the wings, which are very "steppy". Have you considered making that side of the wing fully flat by rotating the whole wing itself?