Kaanere Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Hàs anyone heard anything about xerion or bucket wheel excavator? They are probably 2H. Quote
TheItalianBrick Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 They are probably 2H. yeah sounds like! Hopefully the excavator uses the new pneumatics!! Quote
Saberwing40k Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I have figured out a couple of prototypes for how the rotor assembly of 42052 might work, but I have run into a number of problems. Using the 28z small turntable with any gear results in a weird gear ratio, and there is no way to get around that. Same thing if one were to drive the big turntable. The only way to make the blades turn at the same speed is to use the new 60z turntable, and then have a 8z-40z combo drive the upper rotor. So, there are 3 options for Lego to do this. They use the method 70170 Ultra copter uses, where the lower rotor is driven by the turntable, meshed with a 36z double bevel gear, and then the upper rotor is driven by a trio of 16z gears. This is a proven method, but the result is that the rotors turn at different speeds. My prototype uses this method Lego introduces a new 28z bevel gear, and uses a perpendicular 12z gear to drive both rotors. this solution would be most elegant, but would require a new part. However, I can think of multiple uses for a 28z bevel gear, so it's not that much of a stretch. Lego uses the 60z turntable, and an 8z-40z combo to drive the upper rotor. So, what do you guys think? Would Lego introduce a new part, or have the rotors spin at different speeds? Also, if you are wondering, I have the prototype assembled, but my camera is charging, so I will show it later. Quote
dhc6twinotter Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Perhaps two mini turntables are used, with one mounted above the other. Upper rotor would be connected to the lower turntable by an axle that runs through the upper turntable. A single 20t bevel gear with a half stud offset could mesh with both mini turntables. This would be a very simple way to get the counter-rotation with the same speed in each rotor. Does the Chinook B model have a mini turntable on each rotor? I do like the idea of a 28t bevel gear. I could certainly use this. With working transmissions in a few sets this year, I would not be surprised to see new gear ratios. Edited October 21, 2015 by dhc6twinotter Quote
andrewganschow Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 They are probably 2H. most likely. im just itching to see what lego has come up with for them. Perhaps two mini turntables are used, with one mounted above the other. Upper rotor would be connected to the lower turntable by an axle that runs through the upper turntable. A single 20t bevel gear with a half stud offset could mesh with both mini turntables. This would be a very simple way to get the counter-rotation with the same speed in each rotor. Does the Chinook B model have a mini turntable on each rotor? I do like the idea of a 28t bevel gear. I could certainly use this. With working transmissions in a few sets this year, I would not be surprised to see new gear ratios. new gears would be heavenly, theyd make transmissions more interesting, and functions would be easier to build and route. Quote
Saberwing40k Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 If anyone is interested, I've got a concept version of the 42052 rotor head, on my Brickshelf gallery. http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/saberwing2/Ideas/42052_rotors.lxf Quote
aminnich Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) I havent really gotten into this topic because of the contest. But i see a Volvo I guess their licensing with them didnt not run out yet or we will be seeing a lot of Volvo, which im completely fine with So i look into the EW160E and came across the promotional video (linked below). I think you will agree with me, but if LEGO is going to do this right, they have to include the trailer, the different buckets, the different front attachments, the different bucket arms, a liftable cabin, and of course the single or daul wheel setup. Now of course we all know that probably wont happen, but that would be awesome. Speaking of tires tho, which tires do you think it will have??? Edited October 22, 2015 by aminnich Quote
Saberwing40k Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 I would think, unless Lego was willing to make new tires, that some small balloon tires would look perfect, aside from tread pattern. I just hope they do something like the offset arm, to maximize the pneumatics. I could see this set as not really having a b model, but would include parts and instructions to make 3 or 4 of the configurations shown. Quote
aminnich Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 That would be awesome. No B model, but a bunch of attachments for the excavator. Quote
Rockbrick Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 if lego gave you enough pieces in the box for extra attachments then you would not use your imagination (nor wallet) to get extra pieces to make up your own Quote
LEGOMAN132 Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 There were pics of a few of the sets for like a day.only one I remember was 42049: Mine Loader kind of looked like 8259 Telescopic Handler and was yellow as well. I wonder is the Helicopter will be a Synchroter ( type of counter rotation) like the Kaman K Max. Quote
Saberwing40k Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 if lego gave you enough pieces in the box for extra attachments then you would not use your imagination (nor wallet) to get extra pieces to make up your own Actually, I don't think Lego really profits from selling individual parts. Plus, if you did use your imagination, it actually means you don't buy anything. Adding extra pieces would improve the value proposition, I think. There were pics of a few of the sets for like a day.only one I remember was 42049: Mine Loader kind of looked like 8259 Telescopic Handler and was yellow as well. I wonder is the Helicopter will be a Synchroter ( type of counter rotation) like the Kaman K Max. The helicopter is not one of those, it is a straightforward one on top of the other double rotor, like a Kamov KA-32. This is supported both by people who have seen the pictures, and the official description, available a few pages back. Regarding 42049, the only real ways it is similar to 8259 is that both are four wheeled and yellow. Even if pictures aren't available, there is always ZBLJ's version, which is a good way to get the general look of it. Quote
LEGOMAN132 Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) The helicopter is not one of those, it is a straightforward one on top of the other double rotor, like a Kamov KA-32. This is supported both by people who have seen the pictures, and the official description, available a few pages back. Regarding 42049, the only real ways it is similar to 8259 is that both are four wheeled and yellow. Even if pictures aren't available, there is always ZBLJ's version, which is a good way to get the general look of it. Yes that's more of what it looked like I said brick set had pics up for like a day. That's cool about the Helicopter as I have always loved Kamov helicopters I saw the post of the rosters but not the Kamov part. also I thought your post of the concept was just a concept of what it might be. Edited October 23, 2015 by LEGOMAN132 Quote
PeterZeppelin Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I found some set pictures of 2016 on bricker.ru: 42045 Rescue-Bot 42046 Escape Vehicle 42047 Police Interceptor 42048 Go-Kart 42049 Mining Loader Quote
AOW Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) I really do like this Police Interceptor - will be perfect toy for my kid :) Somewhere in the line back few pages someone mentioned about new Fake Engine - this Huge Massive V8 that will be in the "super car". Does anyone have more details on this? As I do not think that Lego did a new fake engine.... Just to recall the biggest V8 engine had set 8880 , due to it shape. Edited October 23, 2015 by AOW Quote
Samer Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I really do like this Police Interceptor - will be perfect toy for my kid :) What I like about it is it seems a good source for white beams. Quote
Mestari Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 If they indeed did new engine parts, I hope those are smaller than the current ones. Quote
Zerobricks Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 If they indeed did new engine parts, I hope those are smaller than the current ones. Bigger would make more sense... Quote
Kaanere Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Somewhere in the line back few pages someone mentioned about new Fake Engine - this Huge Massive V8 that will be in the "super car". Does anyone have more details on this? As I do not think that Lego did a new fake engine.... Just to recall the biggest V8 engine had set 8880 , due to it shape. There was no mention of a new engine piece. There is a confirmation of new piston colour, green, but no new mould. I found some set pictures of 2016 on bricker.ru: *snip* Those were posted a few pages back, and Lego was taking them down. Quote
Boulderer Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Bigger would make more sense... More sense from what perspective? Surely the current pistons are already oversize for most scale builds. Quote
Zerobricks Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) More sense from what perspective? Surely the current pistons are already oversize for most scale builds. Not for a large scale, 300€ price tagged IP super car... Or any super car scaled vehicle... Edited October 23, 2015 by Zblj Quote
rollermonkey Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 <Trying to figure out how well HOG steering will work with a large turntable. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 <Trying to figure out how well HOG steering will work with a large turntable. See 8264. From what I've been able to observe of the Mine Loader, it was designed by Alfred Pedersen - who, by the way, also designed 8264. Quote
Samer Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 See 8264. From what I've been able to observe of the Mine Loader, it was designed by Alfred Pedersen - who, by the way, also designed 8264. Would there be any chance of motorization? Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 Would there be any chance of motorization? Looking at the 42049 set, I doubt it. It seems too small. Quote
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