andythenorth Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Really, some of you are so proud of your anger about a children's toy? Edited December 20, 2015 by andythenorth Quote
Jay Psi Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 I think I'll leave my table as it is, regardless of how disappointed I might be with the possibility of the Volvo being a mid-range set. (ヘ･_･)ヘ┳━┳ Recent years have seen 2H consist of a "proper" flagship and a set comparable to the 1H flagship in size and parts count. This Ultimate IP Car does complicate things, but even then not every set in a release can be large-scale with 1000+ pieces. Quote
Kaanere Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Really, some of you are so proud of your anger about a children's toy? Lego Technic is more than a children's toy Quote
jorgeopesi Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 I thought it would be a great set for pneumatics... I thought too much . Quote
zux Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 The reason why fire truck was canceled?Look in the new 1H 2016 catalogue... They included a lot of older 2015 sets in catalogue. So fire truck had no space more or was a concurence for older sets...There is no mystery here. Catalogs always include last year's models. The last one even had 42009, which is from 2013. This is definitely not THE reason - as they would rearrange, scale or move models to make space for just one middle range set. Quote
paul_delahaye Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Could be wrong, but makes you wonder if the fire truck is not cancelled, but will end up being a TRU exclusive or something like this? This catalogue is more of a retailers catalogue, there is no sign of the exclusive sets like the new modular bank, and even some of the City sets are missing, (actually another small fire truck is missing) I think this happened before with the Technic racing truck. Quote
deehtha Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 I doubt there would be structural problems. To me that is something that would get caught during the initial design and qc. What if there were issue getting the boxes or manuals ready in time? Or TLG overestimated demand, and had to scrap the airport fire truck in order to get the rest of production out? Quote
Anio Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 What if there were issue getting the boxes or manuals ready in time? Or TLG overestimated demand, and had to scrap the airport fire truck in order to get the rest of production out? By analysing the current Technic line, I would say that the problem is way deeper than that. 42039 : poorly designed model. Looks like a sketch model where tons of improvements still had to be done before it is released 42042 : not a bad model, but specifications with a very obvious rookie mistake 42050 : this product is an insult to all skilled builders there are out there 42051 : canceled. plain and simple. It appears to me that the Technic team lacks some ressources to develop the models correctly. By ressources, I mean time, people, or skill, etc. Quote
GoldVillage Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) By analysing the current Technic line, I would say that the problem is way deeper than that. 42042 : not a bad model, but specifications with a very obvious rookie mistake 42050 : this product is an insult to all skilled builders there are out there Feel free to explain why ;) Edited December 20, 2015 by GoldVillage Quote
Vectormatic Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 By analysing the current Technic line, I would say that the problem is way deeper than that. 42039 : poorly designed model. Looks like a sketch model where tons of improvements still had to be done before it is released 42042 : not a bad model, but specifications with a very obvious rookie mistake 42050 : this product is an insult to all skilled builders there are out there 42052 : canceled. plain and simple. It appears to me that the Technic team lacks some ressources to develop the models correctly. By ressources, I mean time, people, or skill, etc. I really disagree on 42039, it has its flaws, but all of those are cosmetic, and correctable, from a technic/feature point of view it is easily on par with its predecessor 42000. And honestly, modding a set is a great experience, and a personalized model will always beat standard lego design for me. on 42042, i understand that the cabin is on the wrong side etc.. but honestly, as a non-crane enthusiast, this set reaaaaaally hits it out of the park for me, it might not be accurate enough for the real crane enthusiasts among us, but again, MODding is half of what being an AFOL is to me. Agreed on 50 though, poor poor set, i like three things about it, and two of those are tumbler tires.. Quote
Anio Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 I really disagree on 42039, it has its flaws, but all of those are cosmetic, and correctable, from a technic/feature point of view it is easily on par with its predecessor 42000. And honestly, modding a set is a great experience, and a personalized model will always beat standard lego design for me. Moding a product is certainly something fun. But this is not the point of a Lego product in the first place. I mean for example, when you buy a car, even if you can replace/repare all the wheels/tires yourself, you do not buy a new car without wheels... When you buy something (whatever it is), you are not supposed to do the job of the guy who you bought the product to... on 42042, i understand that the cabin is on the wrong side etc.. but honestly, as a non-crane enthusiast, this set reaaaaaally hits it out of the park for me, it might not be accurate enough for the real crane enthusiasts among us, but again, MODding is half of what being an AFOL is to me. lol. The cabin is not really really not what I had in mind. No one cares about the cabine. Left or right cabine, it is the same thing for a toy. Quote
Vectormatic Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Moding a product is certainly something fun. But this is not the point of a Lego product in the first place. I mean for example, when you buy a car, even if you can replace/repare all the wheels/tires yourself, you do not buy a new car without wheels... When you buy something (whatever it is), you are not supposed to do the job of the guy who you bought the product to... Lego isnt a car though, its a hobby (which cars are for certain people as well, hell, Toyota sells their GT86 in special tuners version with unpainted bumpers and steel wheels in japan), and part of that is outgrowing Lego's designs and modifying them, and growing into MOCing As for doing the job its meant to do, the problem with 42039 is purely aesthetics imho, which is right there on the box. And to a non-purist, it totally looks like a convincing racing/LMP car lol. The cabin is not really really not what I had in mind. No one cares about the cabine. Left or right cabine, it is the same thing for a toy. Fair enough, as i said, im not into cranes at all, i just happen to really like that set, my entire technic collection is race cars and motorcycles, but here i am, considering a crane Quote
Kman860 Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 The cabin is not really really not what I had in mind. No one cares about the cabine. Left or right cabine, it is the same thing for a toy. What did you have in mind? Quote
Anio Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 What did you have in mind? Think a bit. Analyze technical choices and I am sure you can figure out what's wrong with the specifications. :) edit : http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=99511&st=2250#entry2257794 Quote
gmshades Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Would be sweet if the tractor came with a manual pneumatic pump or 2 and lots of pneumatic features. We haven't had a manual pump since 2010. Quote
Kaanere Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Would be sweet if the tractor came with a manual pneumatic pump or 2 and lots of pneumatic features. We haven't had a manual pump since 2010. I thought of that some time ago... It would be interesting... What if the set itself doesn't have pneumatics in-set, but they plan on releasing some sort of pneumatic add-on set, something in the lines of that PF set that had contents to motorice some sets? Quote
imajor Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Think a bit. Analyze technical choices and I am sure you can figure out what's wrong with the specifications. :) Hm so that is not so obvious. I give up. Quote
Kman860 Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 I thought of that some time ago... It would be interesting... What if the set itself doesn't have pneumatics in-set, but they plan on releasing some sort of pneumatic add-on set, something in the lines of that PF set that had contents to motorice some sets? I doubt it. Quote
Lipko Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Hm so that is not so obvious. I give up. The model can't steer and it's not remote controlled (as it was stated in the specifications? I haven't checked it, just read from the reply Anio posted). Quote
tgrbailey Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 42052 : canceled. plain and simple. Did you mean this one? U.K. s@h shows it available from 31st December or have I missed something ? Quote
Babaloveslego55 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Agreed on 50 though, poor poor set, i like three things about it, and two of those are tumbler tires.. i disagree with that because it has those great blue peices! By analysing the current Technic line, I would say that the problem is way deeper than that. 42039 : poorly designed model. Looks like a sketch model where tons of improvements still had to be done before it is released 42042 : not a bad model, but specifications with a very obvious rookie mistake 42050 : this product is an insult to all skilled builders there are out there 42052 : canceled. plain and simple. It appears to me that the Technic team lacks some ressources to develop the models correctly. By ressources, I mean time, people, or skill, etc. Dont you mean 42051 the fire truck not 42052 the helicopter? Edited December 21, 2015 by Babaloveslego55 Quote
Saberwing40k Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 That's what I was going to say, there was a mix up with the number. So, Anio is always reffering to 42051 even if he typed 42052. Also, what makes 42050 a less good set for me is the price. It should be $60 not $80. Quote
Babaloveslego55 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 That's what I was going to say, there was a mix up with the number. So, Anio is always reffering to 42051 even if he typed 42052. Also, what makes 42050 a less good set for me is the price. It should be $60 not $80. Im going to look on amazon for it, because you usellay find lego technic for a bargen on amazon after a mounth or two! Quote
Corvette3 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Im going to look on amazon for it, because you usellay find lego technic for a bargen on amazon after a mounth or two! Lucky you, amazon won't post Lego to Australia :( Quote
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