Bionicle 2016 Story Discussion & Rumors

[xboxtravis7992]

So Okoto has a neighboring Three Finger Islands... I mean Island of Mystery Maze. I just hope the island is not part of some giant robot's thumb, it would make G2 to, predictable.

[Dorek]

If Bionicle lasts for more than 2017 I hope to see a new Toa group.

Plot twist: 2018's Toa team are Pohatu, Lewa, Gali, Tahu, Onua, and Kopaka... from a DIFFERENT TIME dun dun dun

[avatarbrickman]

Plot twist: 2018's Toa team are Pohatu, Lewa, Gali, Tahu, Onua, and Kopaka... from a DIFFERENT TIME dun dun dun

And then they have an EPIC BATTLE dun dun dun

[MakutaOfWar]

So, I'm curious as to where the whole story is going. What exactly *is* the story? What is the purpose of finding these great masks(MoCr, MoCo) and how does it tie-in with the obvious showdown with Makuta next year? In G1 it seemed pretty obvious how all of the years were tied together, but now it kind of seems like this year is foreign to last's. Not to mention the masks of power rehash. There's a good chance that UmarakTD will be defeated at the end of this year, after that what happens? Where does Makuta come into play? How will the Toa get their eventual upgrades? I guess these are all questions that will get answered, but I'm still skeptical after last year's ending and the transition to this year's beginning.

This is why I miss comics, it seemed like later years always had a cliffhanger or at least some explanation of events right into the new year. Well, that and the books which I, in fact, did not read (why do Lewa, Kopaka, and Pohatu have aircraft parts on their bodies???)

Edited January 20, 2016 by MakutaOfWar

[Lyichir]

So, I'm curious as to where the whole story is going. What exactly *is* the story? What is the purpose of finding these great masks(MoCr, MoCo) and how does it tie-in with the obvious showdown with Makuta next year? In G1 it seemed pretty obvious how all of the years were tied together, but now it kind of seems like this year is foreign to last's. Not to mention the masks of power rehash. There's a good chance that UmarakTD will be defeated at the end of this year, after that what happens? Where does Makuta come into play? How will the Toa get their eventual upgrades? I guess these are all questions that will get answered, but I'm still skeptical after last year's ending and the transition to this year's beginning.

This is why I miss comics, it seemed like later years always had a cliffhanger or at least some explanation of events right into the new year. Well, that and the books which I, in fact, did not read (why do Lewa, Kopaka, and Pohatu have aircraft parts on their bodies???)

Maybe in the later years of G1 it was clear how each year was tied into the last, but it definitely wasn't in the early years. In 2002, the Bohrok were presented as a completely new threat unrelated to the seemingly-defeated Makuta, and it was a surprise for a lot of people when Makuta was revealed to still be alive (and be responsible for the Bohrok's release) in 2003. I think the new story seems like it's remarkably coherent by comparison—presumably, Ekimu will send the Toa on a new quest himself now that he's awakened, as the end of the animations implied. Really, given that the Netflix series will probably be the main form of story media for the new year, it's way too early to complain about the story not making sense, because for all intents and purposes the main 2016 story hasn't even started yet.

Also, the explanation for the Toa Nuva's transformation was in the BionicleStory.com web serials, not the books—and considering the books were the main story media for the later years of the original theme, I'm surprised the story seemed nearly as coherent to you without you reading them.

Edited January 20, 2016 by Lyichir

[Tazakk]

Also, the explanation for the Toa Nuva's transformation was in the BionicleStory.com web serials, not the books—and considering the books were the main story media for the later years of the original theme, I'm surprised the story seemed nearly as coherent to you without you reading them.

Actually, IIRC it was in the epilogue of Downfall. Though it was kind of weird, because really that whole bit was a continuation of one of the serials. I guess Greg just put it in to try to make the transition to 2008 less jarring.

[Quisoves Pugnat]

Actually, IIRC it was in the epilogue of Downfall. Though it was kind of weird, because really that whole bit was a continuation of one of the serials. I guess Greg just put it in to try to make the transition to 2008 less jarring.

Yeah, it was in the epilogue. If memory serves, it was probably more jarring if you had read the serial. I seem to recall it and the book not quite matching up

[DuplexBeGreat]

It bothers me how the comic shows Lewa failing to open the Labyrinth, only for Tahu to magically succeed by putting his hand on it. Either Tahu's somehow prophesied to be more special than the other Toa, or the media is simply showing favoritism toward him. Either way, not a good thing.

[One Very Agile Cat]

Looks to me like Tahu's simply using the door "control."

[Tazakk]

It bothers me how the comic shows Lewa failing to open the Labyrinth, only for Tahu to magically succeed by putting his hand on it. Either Tahu's somehow prophesied to be more special than the other Toa, or the media is simply showing favoritism toward him. Either way, not a good thing.

Reminds me of the concept for the Toa attempting to wake Mata Nui in 2001, only in that case it's Gali who can successfully place the Makoki stone.

[Voxovan]

So, I found these screencaps from the game's comics on 4chan:

http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1453333550650.png

http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1453333624950.png

http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1453333690464.png

http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1453333768450.png

That's... pretty intense.

[Bbrink1996]

So, I found these screencaps from the game's comics on 4chan:

http://i.4cdn.org/to...53333550650.png

http://i.4cdn.org/to...53333624950.png

http://i.4cdn.org/to...53333690464.png

http://i.4cdn.org/to...53333768450.png

That's... pretty intense.

Interesting to see Umarak using Ketar for his Unity form and using it to get to the Mask Of Control. Also, is Umarak betraying Makuta there by putting the MoC on or is Makuta forcing him? Also slight tease for Umarak The Destroyer is pretty cool.

[DuckBricks]

So, I found these screencaps from the game's comics on 4chan:

http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1453333550650.png

http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1453333624950.png

http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1453333690464.png

http://i.4cdn.org/toy/1453333768450.png

That's... pretty intense.

Those comics were sweet! Hope Journey to One is something like this...

Also, why was Umarak so much bigger than the rest of the Toa?

Edited January 21, 2016 by legozebra

[Shakar]

Didn't expect to see Umarak uniting with Ketar (who I assume is being forced into it), but it makes sense if Umarak needs the power of Stone to destroy those crystals.

And the big one- Makuta! He looks terrifying. Looks like he can indeed live without a physical body just fine, which is quite the departure from G1. Nice to see he's still being associated with purple, even though I fear he'll be just red once his set(s?) comes out.

Umarak the Destroyer looks imposing. Shame the set doesn't seem to be that impressive, for now at least.

[Tazakk]

Are they using Grievous' foot as a placeholder for the Destroyer? Interesting that whoever produced this had that model for reference.

Never been a fan of shadowy-vortex-with-red-eyes Makuta, not a huge fan of it now. Though I guess with the Mask of Control as the mcguffin there wasn't anything more solid available to visually represent him with like in the web animations. Its just such an uncreative form.

I'd be happier if that were the Mask of Ultimate Power in front of Umarak, but we've been told Makuta is the culprit behind stuff enough at this point that it doesn't seem too likely that the mask is going to serve a role beyond its ultimate mcguffin job next year.

[Logan McOwen]

Oh damn, cool.

[Shakar]

People on TTV have noticed that when Umarak removes his mask and wears the MoCO he seems suprised by it and is engulfed in purple energy. Could it be that Umarak is being forced by Makuta to wear the Mask?

[One Very Agile Cat]

Umarak's hand also has tendrils of energy on it that the rest of him doesn't, so I'd say it's a safe bet he's being forced to wear the mask.

[TwistLaw]

Umarak seems like a noble character, unlike Kulta, so I don't think he'd wear the mask willingly.

Edited January 21, 2016 by TwistLaw

[Dorek]

Umarak seems like a noble character, unlike Kulta, so I don't think he'd wear the mask willingly.

I wouldn't say "noble"... he's a living incarnate of shadow =P. Most places have shown him willingly putting on the mask, so this is an interesting departure.

I like that he's been shown wearing various creatures at points to accomplish his goals, too. Ketar would be an interesting "canon" choice, we'll see what the television episodes do.

[TwistLaw]

I wouldn't say "noble"... he's a living incarnate of shadow =P. Most places have shown him willingly putting on the mask, so this is an interesting departure.

I like that he's been shown wearing various creatures at points to accomplish his goals, too. Ketar would be an interesting "canon" choice, we'll see what the television episodes do.

I get your point, but Makuta too was made of shadows in G1 (inb4 gaseous being) and yet he managed to always have this sort of noble aura around him. I wouldn't say the same about the Piraka, for instance.

[Dorek]

I get your point, but Makuta too was made of shadows in G1 (inb4 gaseous being) and yet he managed to always have this sort of noble aura around him. I wouldn't say the same about the Piraka, for instance.

Okay, so more "regal" or "dignified" rather than "aspiring to higher morals", I getcha.

Unrelated, but I just finished the second novel, Revenge of the Skull Spiders. Good stuff, nice worldbuilding, and fun side characters. Gets a little promotional-y in parts, but still enjoyable. And I loved the descriptions it gave for the Elemental Creatures; ape/rhino hybrid indeed.

[Bigger Fish]

What were the rest of the descriptions?

[Shakar]

I found the excpert a while ago, IIRC:

Ikir: bird of prey

Terak: ape/lizard

Ketar: scorpion

Uxar: dragonfly

Akida: shark

All of them are mentioned to have dragon like characteristics too.

[Bigger Fish]

Thanks, so Terak's an ape then? Fascinating. Wonder what Melum is.