Are there any wenches here?

[Mister Phes]

I don't remember being in Pirate rehab... Obviously I need some for of rehab if I've forgotten that.

I've also created a new Pirate thread "The Pirate Theme ended..." against my better judegment. If it doesn't get a lot of responses I probably won't create another for a very very very very looooong time.

[xwingyoda]

As usual mister_phes, you create long and interesting pirate threads (no I'm serious and NOT sarcastic).

I'm currently at work, I can respond quickly but have no time to really read this thread.

I WILL do it tonight though ;)

[Mister Phes]

I'd rather they weren't so long. However, there is so much to say and ideally I'd like that particular one split in two. But it would be inappropriate to create two threads so similiar to each other...

[xwingyoda]

Long = documented and interesting ;)

This was absolutly NOT a criticism there mister_phes ;)

[Jipay]

Weakness is an ambiguous way of putting it. More precisely... Nice guys finish last...

What an interressant thought. I think our ladies member could second me on that, but nice guys are never last.

What girls want is a guy that :

1 - can listen to her

2 - can understand her

3 - is nice with her

4 - but not weak at the same time

5 - good looking

6 - that still has this little rebelious thing that makes him attractive

7 - that is good looking

8 - eventually, you get a bonus point if you got money

*satis*

[xwingyoda]

Jipay,

you forgot a nice sense of humour, (and soft ;) )

I really agree with you, that's the French way ;) *satis*

[jonfett]

When will the dating lessons continue Jipay? ;)

The lack of ladies around here has made us males desperate for love! *wub*

Jon.

[Jipay]

well sense of humour is important. Don't be desperate Jon, that's the worst thing that can happen : girls want guy with a reassuring sense of self confidence. The nerds dating the porn star living next doors are only in movies :-D

[xwingyoda]

The always conflicting male confidence with women subtility. Combine both and you're sure not to finish last ;)

[Jipay]

yes... But women are never saying things directly. they can say no, and it can mean yes... Always confusing *wacko*

[Mister Phes]

What's this crap about what women want? The way I see it is does the woman have what I want. If not.. NEXT!!! They're here to please me, not the other way round.

And after processing 10,000 or so women you'll find one that's actually suitable. Unless you get lucky and stumble across a good one accidentally. But that is soooooo rare. And in this event you probably should marry her, otherwise you'll be back to wasting your time with the ones who aren't really worth it.

[Darkie]

So in six pages this thread went from wondering where the female AFOL's were to giving advice on properly hunting one down for your own, with a small discussion of fishing in the middle.

Okay. Fair enough.

Want to know what a woman wants? Try asking her. ;)

[Mister Phes]

But women are never saying things directly

It would be a great to find a woman that could be asked exactly what she wants. However, manyof them cannot adequately communicate what they consciously want (for whatever reason, ie. psychological, emotional problems, etc). And its not like people are taught how to do this in highschool therefore they cannot be expected to have the ability. And in many cases they just don't know what they want anyway. This can easily be waved off by saying most men just don't understand woman. Although that works both ways.

In reality its not attempting to understand what they want on the conscious level - they'll tell you anything regardless of its accuracy. Much of what society has programmed them to say. Stimulating their passions and desires on the unconscious level will get the best results.

However, after a certain age (say about 35-40) you can begin asking for advice from Dr Phil and books like Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus, because then this crap will finally will start to apply.

Now what makes me say all this...? Its not like I'd know or anything...

[Jipay]

I red those books. those are pure craps because on 3/4 of the books, the author tells the guy to make all the efforts, not the opposite... I think he is wrong in many things he's saying. The first 10 pages, you say "OMG ! the holy book ! i'll finally understand girls". And then you realise you waste 10 bucks in something that will never apply... :-D

[Vader]

The best thing to do is just realise that we will never understand women and that its pointless to try, just remember no matter whos right or wrong your always going to be wrong :-D

[xwingyoda]

Depending on what country, not in Siciliy :-D

[Mister Phes]

The best thing to do is just realise that we will never understand women and that its pointless to try, just remember no matter whos right or wrong your always going to be wrong :-D

Ahhhh... But it is possible to understand what they want on the subconscious level despite what they may be saying or doing on the conscious level. Its of matter of finding the information, learning and putting into pratice. Then within time you shall become all powerful!

I red those books. those are pure craps because on 3/4 of the books, the author tells the guy to make all the efforts, not the opposite... I think he is wrong in many things he's saying. The first 10 pages, you say "OMG ! the holy book ! i'll finally understand girls". And then you realise you waste 10 bucks in something that will never apply..

The reason it doesn't apply is because many of the concepts and principal those books contain were developed in the 1950's. In the past 50 years society has changed considerably, however our sociological programming of the male and female courting process remains as it was in the 1950's.

Now there are a few people who've said wait a minute, these books are a load of baloney so I'm going to find out how it actually works these days. Its just a matter of finding them.

[SuvieD]

I have been married for four years now and I really don't understand all that much about being married or women for that fact. However, I do understand my wife even though I don't always agree with her. Things she had communicated to me (verbally or through actions) about women are as follows:

1. Women want to be touched (usually not sexually) it lets them know they are loved, hugs, holding hands, and so on.

2. Women want a man who will lead them but not rule them. "Be a man" be protective and safeguarding, supportive and watchful so as to have a secure home and relationship.

3. Be a gentlemen, open doors, walk with her, help her up and so on.

4. Let her know how beautiful she is and how important she is to you. Society is hard on the female image. Everyone trying to be perfect (which doesn't exist).

5. Do not be a push over. Women do not respect a man they control. Comprimise, negotiate but do not let her walk all over you. Doing so does not make you a nice guy but a weak guy.

6. Do not let pride prevent you from saying any of the following if they truely apply; "you are/were right," "I am sorry," "this is my fault," or "I love you." These words only have value if you mean it. Just saying them does not work. You must mean it.

7. Communicate, communicate, communicate and so on!

8. Girls tingle and men do not. If you don't undestand this you will have to wait until you are married.

That is all I can think of off the top of my head. I know that my wife would marry me all over again if she had a choice. We have our problems but we have a great marraige. We both have our issues but we both are willing to talk and make it work.

Someone once said, "Behind every great man, there is a great woman."

I have said that "A woman can drag a man to the bottom, or she will allow him to walk on water."

Women need to put forth just as much effort as a man to make any relationship work. If you find a woman who isn't afraid of work hard, is good looking(in your eyes), and desires to make you happy, you can have a happy marriage.

Just my two cents.

SuvieD

PS. can any of you ladies out there confirm any of this?

[Mister Phes]

Suvie D has provided you all with some wonderful points.

However...

3. Be a gentlemen, open doors, walk with her, help her up and so on.

4. Let her know how beautiful she is and how important she is to you. Society is hard on the female image. Everyone trying to be perfect (which doesn't exist).

Until she has proved herself worthy of you, go easy on these. Too much of this too early will either result in scaring her away or used, lead on then and eventually rejected. They must earn these priveleges otherwise they'll take them for granted.

I'd be specifically referring to attractive women that get told their beautiful 100 times a day and have countless men sucking upto them. Their appearance and what they've been exposed to throughout their life can have a profound effect on thier psychology. But that is not to imply that every attractive woman is an ungreatful user, its an acknoweldgement they get much attention and are required to be selective.

[xwingyoda]

Suvie D has provided you all with some wonderful points.

However...

3. Be a gentlemen, open doors, walk with her, help her up and so on.

4. Let her know how beautiful she is and how important she is to you. Society is hard on the female image. Everyone trying to be perfect (which doesn't exist).

Until she has proved herself worthy of you, go easy on these. Too much of this too early will either result in scaring her away or used, lead on then and eventually rejected. They must earn these priveleges otherwise they'll take them for granted.

I'd be specifically referring to attractive women that get told their beautiful 100 times a day and have countless men sucking upto them. Their appearance and what they've been exposed to throughout their life can have a profound effect on thier psychology. But that is not to imply that every single attractive woman is an ungreatful user.

What a galant gentleman ;)

Woman do NOT have to earn those "privileges".

Also do not give excessive compliments, but rather well dosed one - just tell her that she looks beautifull dressed like that... It has a powerfull effect ;)

Also, there are ways to do it ;)

[SuvieD]

Woman do NOT have to earn those "privileges".

Also do not give excessive compliments, but rather well dosed one - just tell her that she looks beautifull dressed like that... It has a powerfull effect 

All things in moderation my friends, all things in moderation. ;)

SuvieD

[xwingyoda]

That's what I said, always trust a french ;) (where is Jipay to second that??? - oh yeah, moving back home ;) ).

[Mister Phes]

What a galant gentleman ;)

Woman do NOT have to earn those "privileges".

Also do not give excessive compliments, but rather well dosed one - just tell her that she looks beautifull dressed like that... It has a powerfull effect ;)

Also, there are ways to do it ;)

Well they have to earn it from me! But I'm evil and sometimes wonder if I use women the way some women use men. However, I ask for nothing and they do it voluntarily.

Although, Master Yoda's input is reasonable. However, I'm not here to boost women's egos. If they want a compliment then they must do something to earn it.

And bare in mind that the cultures varies throughout the world. What works somewhere might not be as effective somewhere else.

[xwingyoda]

What a galant gentleman ;)

Woman do NOT have to earn those "privileges".

Also do not give excessive compliments, but rather well dosed one - just tell her that she looks beautifull dressed like that... It has a powerfull effect ;)

Also, there are ways to do it ;)

Well they have to earn it from me! But I'm evil and sometimes wonder if I use women the way some women use men. However, I ask for nothing and they do it voluntarily.

Although, Master Yoda's input is reasonable. However, I'm not here to boost women's egos. If they want a compliment then they must do something to earn it.

And bare in mind that the cultures varies throughout the world. What works somewhere might not be as effective somewhere else.

I guess it all depends on what you want from them ;)

[Mister Phes]

I don't want anything from them. Except to possibly leave me alone and never bother me again. But it appears that's asking too much.