Bionicle 2008 Images and Discussion

[Tyranide]

Well, for I personally can't view this "another" pics.

Strange, yeah?

Oh, well, they ARE HERE!

Somebody just have uploaded'em on Maj...

http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=157820

Why doesn't anyone know Icarax of Mutran number?..

Edited December 5, 2007 by Tyranide

[Visorak-kal]

Well, for I personally can't view this "another" pics.

Strange, yeah?

Oh, well, they ARE HERE!

Somebody just have uploaded'em on Maj...

http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=157820

Why doesn't anyone know Icarax of Mutran number?..

Neat, all in one place now. That saves the trouble of changing numbers. :-D

Tyranide, I think we don't know teh Icarax and Mutran numbers because they actually have not been released yet. In fact, LEGO has officialy released zero information on either set, they haven't even given us a clue if they exist! Their only references were in the story, and we only know they will be sets because GregF has said so.

LEGO is really keeping those guys under wraps. Oh, the suspense! :-D

VK

[Tyranide]

Neat, all in one place now. That saves the trouble of changing numbers. :-D

Tyranide, I think we don't know teh Icarax and Mutran numbers because they actually have not been released yet. In fact, LEGO has officialy released zero information on either set, they haven't even given us a clue if they exist! Their only references were in the story, and we only know they will be sets because GregF has said so.

LEGO is really keeping those guys under wraps. Oh, the suspense! :-D

VK

I know this. Even my local LEGO office don't know their numbers. Or - don't want to show me that they know! :)

Oh, well, now I'll gonna go and try to find other instructions (I've already tried near 100 combinations - nothing at all...)

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

My, my...

The Phantoka are awesome! I like the Makuta's. The Nuva with their returning functions and awesome masks and such are cool too. Looks like it will be a good year! Oh, and the Matoran are okay... too "One peiced."

I hate how the long friction pins are blue now though. >:-( And how the corrupted Av Matoran go on the Makuta looks really wrong.

-ZotS

[Ecto]

LEGO! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? WHY MAKE THE FRICTION PINS BLUE! GAH!

These otherwise look okay.

[Zarkan]

2 words: Utter devastation. :-X

Bionicle has hit a new record low for me. The 2008 lineup has to be the absolute worst lineup we've had since 2001. I'm not just rambling on, I'm serious. >:-(

First of all, the Makuta stink PERIOD. Besides extremely boring designs and ugly masks (other than Antroz), their total design is thrown into the sewer via those awful chest balls filled with strange little spiders. The body pieces themselves are so junorized that I see no uses for them PERIOD. And that comes from a guy that likes the Piraka bodies and Inika feet. Chirox and Antroz are boring enough, with their incredibly simplistic designs, but Vamprah really takes the cake: his design is so thrown together that he has no feet - just little poker things. Worse, they've gone TWO steps backward from the Barraki and Mahri, not only eliminating system bits but almost any technic pieces whatsoever. And their weapons are so predictable - just more stabber things that have far less uses than all the awesome tools we got last year. The only good things about these guys are the two colored wings and Antroz's mask, but those are not enough to warant a purchase from me. *n*

Then there's the Toa Nuva, or what's left of them. Despite the fact that I now accept their total distinction from their previous forms, the designs themself are just BLAH. Kopaka is just an Inika with a normal head, simplistic wings, and a bayonete. But therin lies the flaw: Kopaka is the most underarmed toa since the original Pohatu. He has one weapon: a "zamor-cordak" launcher, with a little ice blade attached. How is he supposed to stand a chance against 3 crazy makutas with blades galore if he can't even melee attack at all? Pohatu is even worse, eliminating hands for crazy propeller thingys that seem to be built directly into his arms. Oh, and his design is totally blah, lacking any new inovation except for the crazy propellers. Lewa is the only Phantoka I might even CONSIDER buying, but only because he has lime chest armor, okay blades, and an interesting mask. But his design suffers from the same lack of inovation or features that Kopaka has. And don't say that his back armor counts, because as far as I'm concerned it's a problem that we've NOT had back armor until now, not a good thing that we do have it.

But the biggest disapointment of all has to be the Av-Matoran. Simply put, they are <insert that tiresome argument> so badly they probably have less than 15 pieces each. The legs and arms are one piece, the bodies one piece, and the heads probably are the most complex part of the design! This is such a step backwards from the AMAZING Mahritoran that it goes behind the Rahaga, Voyatoran, Matoran and even the Metruan in terms of simplicity. The only small sets more <insert that tiresome argument> that this are the Tohunga, and they were free promos you got in MCdonalds happy meals! For free, I'd take any bionicle set instantly, but the fact that I have to pay 5 dollars to get 15 pieces of <insert that tiresome argument> POOP's (note: that is the acronym Piece with Only One Purpose) makes me want to scream: RIPOFF! (note: that is NOT an acronym). >:-(

Since the good guy Av-Matoran have nice masks, feet, and weapons, though, I'll probably get all of them, but the infected Matoran's masks are so UGLY that I won't buy any of them. Oh, and then there's the Toa Ignika, which I will most certainly pass on. If I was a constant MOC'er, I would probably purchase him to completely soup him up, but since I'm not, I can't justify buying a silver armored, Ignika wearing Hewkii on a stupid hoverboard. :-|

Okay, need I say that these are my very angry opinions? :-P But seriously, I can't believe how far they've gone backward from 2007, and yet here we are with a lineup that finally really has brought out the hate within me. The Piraka and Inika have nothing on this crud! :-X

[Ikki o' Moopyville]

Thank you. It felt good reading that. :-D

-Ikk

[Kynok]

Hey does anyone know the name of the 2008 location?

[Clonie]

Karda Nui.

Woo for long opinions which I can't be bothered reading lol.

[Ecto]

The sets are great.

BUT THE FRICTION PINS!! :-X

[:Venomess:]

Oh, well, they ARE HERE!

Somebody just have uploaded'em on Maj...

http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=157820

That was me.

Someone just uploaded pics of the actual sets on B-shelf! Link

~D

[ExoBuilder]

The sets are great.

BUT THE FRICTION PINS!! :-X

I believe you already said that but whatever. I'm not exactly looking forward to the 08 Bionicles, Considering I have only ever owned four sets, three of them built at the moment. That's my 2 cents.

*sweet*

[VBBN]

Whoah!

Link to Folder nwith 2008 sets in person!!!

Edited December 6, 2007 by ~VBBN~

[:Venomess:]

Whoah!

Link to Folder nwith 2008 sets in person!!!

Already posted, see my last post.

~D

[ExoBuilder]

Wow, to be honest, these 08 sets look like crap compared to this years sets.

Dissapointed on!

*sweet*

[Ecto]

Wow, to be honest, these 08 sets look like crap compared to this years sets.

Dissapointed on!

*sweet*

Haha I know I already said that... repetition seems to be the only way to let lego know these things... :-P

I love all of these.

[BrotherDog]

The sets are great.

BUT THE FRICTION PINS!! :-X

Huh!?! At least it isn't red, like those hideous #2 axles they keeep using. Or the Hideously ugly, overwhelming amount of red in the very lame Toa-Mahri. There should have been more translucent pieces, and pearled colors to make them more aquatic looking.

These guys at least look like they'd be in the area of the new setting. Except for the newer version of antroz(the more black and grey one was waaaaaaaaaaay kewler), these guys are almost as great as the Barraki.

Edited December 6, 2007 by BrotherDog

[Visorak-kal]

Grievous, there are some reviews on several 2008 set on BZP...some of the people there changed their minds upon seeing better pics. You might want to check them out. :-)

I actually like the new Makuta bodies, as they are very aerodynamic and are not as skinny as the plain Inika/Piraka bodies. While I had hoped for more build, as with some Barraki, this new body piece makes up for that. I don't see the masks as being any uglier than the Barraki!

I like Toa Ignika because he is a real great Toa figure. He is completely armed and has armor on his back; he has a melee weapon and a long-range weapon. I might just switch the place where his head is located; that might have been done because of his mask size.

I see the Toa Nuva as mass improvement over the Toa Mahri; LEGO has taken everything wrong with the Inika and fixed it. (Not that the Inika weren't good!) They have back armor, good and normal masks, one of the best long-range weapons I've seen in a while, and they have three different flying modes.

I can understand your disappointment with the Matoran, though. I also like the Mahritoran best, but remember the two problems with the Mahritoran:

1. They have so many pieces that we get hardly any new pieces.

2. They would probably be too big to sit on the Phantoka, which is what the designers obviously wanted as a gimmick this year.

So the Mahritoran had to go. I, too, like more build, but this doesn't bug me becaus the small sets never have much build anyway. More or less of a little is still a little, lol. :-D I am glad they have a variety of new pieces, masks, and compatible heads. They may have some build yet, Grievous, because somehow the jetpacks for the good Av-Matoran have to be attached.

VK

[KMOI]

Wow, to be honest, these 08 sets look like crap compared to this years sets.

Dissapointed on!

*sweet*

I agree. There's not really much else to say. All my gripes have been summed up in Grevious's post, especially about Kopaka. Quite frankly, I don't care how many "rave" reviews there are about these offerings. There will be nothing that could possibly compell me to buy another Toa set.

That said, the villians are actually pretty good with their menacing masks and builds that look like some thinking actually went into it, unlike the Toa. Designs which actually look somewhat unique and not just generic muscular drones combined with massive wings that actually look GOOD, I'm actually temped to a very miniscule degree about considering getting one. Mind you, I'm taking the perspective that something is better than nothing.

Well, looks like I got more money for other lines! Impulse, Exo-Force, Castle, Indy and Star Wars ON!

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

Thank you. It felt good reading that. :-D

-Ikk

Same. Good to see you get your inner hate out, Grevie :-D

I concur with Grevious on all scores. The fact that the Toa Ignika will be speaking in baby gibberish (As said by GregF himself) doesnt help, either.

[Visorak-kal]

I concur with Grevious on all scores. The fact that the Toa Ignika will be speaking in baby gibberish (As said by GregF himself) doesnt help, either.

Are you sure about that? I check all Greg information frequently, and I don't remember him saying that. He said that the Ignika does not speak at first, and may speak later on the in the story. It doesn't speak baby. He may have used the term "baby" when speaking about its mind. The Ignika sees hostility as hostlility and friendliness and friendliness. If you are good and act hostile to it, then it will attack you.

At least, that is how most of the people I've seen, including myself, interpret it.

That said, the villians are actually pretty good with their menacing masks and builds that look like some thinking actually went into it, unlike the Toa. Designs which actually look somewhat unique and not just generic muscular drones combined with massive wings that actually look GOOD, I'm actually temped to a very miniscule degree about considering getting one. Mind you, I'm taking the perspective that something is better than nothing.

I also like the villains better than the Toa; their look just seems better to me. I actually like the Toa designs, but the villains have way more originality; new bodies, new parts, etc. However, the Toa may be improved-Inika-remakes, but they still look cool in my opinion. Pohatu doesn't look as lanky as the others, just like Kongu Mahri didn't. The shortness works on Pohatu, though...it didn't look so good on a Toa of Air.

VK

Edited December 6, 2007 by Visorak-kal

[Zarkan]

Same. Good to see you get your inner hate out, Grevie

Eh, what can I say. X-D Doesn't mean I'm refuting my positions on previous years or that I won't like the STORYLINE, but seriously, I haven't felt this angry about lego since Galidor - which Bionicle set design kinda seems to be heading towards now! (Well, the matoran anyway.) :-|

Well, looks like I got more money for other lines! Impulse, Exo-Force, Castle, Indy and Star Wars ON!

That's exactly what I've been thinking since we saw those catalog pictures a month or so ago. *y*

Grievous, there are some reviews on several 2008 set on BZP...some of the people there changed their minds upon seeing better pics. You might want to check them out.

Thanks for suggesting that, but I don't really think it will change my mind. Now, I may still like BZP, but I've noticed that in general they seem very positive about Bionicle in general, even more so than necessary. For example, every time a new deal has come out for Bionicle Heroes Wii, they highly encourage members to go buy it as fast as they can. Unfortunatley, they completely leave out that it's being marked down so much because TT games totally mangled the camera in that version, making it so frusterating to play that it's not even worth it. This is what it is like all around there, and the fact that Greg F, an official representative of TLC, is on there, may have something to do with the extreme postiveness. :- /

The fact that the Toa Ignika will be speaking in baby gibberish (As said by GregF himself) doesnt help, either.

Eh, I'm not so sure about that. Like Visorak-Kal said, he probably meant it in a figurative state, not literally, like "Ababbababgocodoo." I think it might actually be interesting if handled right, seeing a sentinet mask try to understand how true beings think and act. ;-)

[Tyranide]

Well, for now my opinion is - that;s just a stupid move, to release Toa every year. They jaust MUST to do them all with a similar design because they're the same species and must be recognisable. That;s why Hordika were - not cool - but interesting. And that's why almost everyone love villain more - villains' species are different every year, so they all look more visual appealing (is that the right word?) than Toa.

Oh, well, for now even I am bored with all these Inika clones - I think that new Toa bodies must be released. Not kinda Pohatu's, but completely new. And that lack of pieces.... EVERY year we got LESS pieces - every year every character wear big pieces of armor, big swords, bodies made of one piece... legs an arms made of 3-5 pieces... I hope that later we'll see sets more hard to biuld. Oh, I'm builgind one Exo-Toa for almost 40 minutes, and for Hydraxon I need less that 20 minutes. What happening?

But that all doesn't mean that I don't like new sets at all. I definitely going to buy Lewa, Antroz, Tanma and Radiak (because Makuta Spiriah can be build with their pieces), Kopaka (he was my first Toa Mata and Toa Nuva!) and, well, Toa Ignika. Just because of mask. And I'll wait for Icarax and Mutran pictures - maybe they'll be better as titans than Ignika.

[Zarkan]

Sometimes I wish I was like you and most everyone else here, Tryanide, since you guys are able to buy a lot more sets than I can. Not that I'm being greedy or anything, but because of my tight budget I only can buy sets that I'm sure I'll be happy with, causing me to think over my wishlists so many times it sends my head spinning. *wacko* :-P

[Shakar]

Directly from Shop at Home...here is the mad scientist, Mutran!

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That Matoran seems like a result of his experiments...

Shakar