Bionicle 2008 Images and Discussion

[Visorak-kal]

Woah! Chirox and Kirop in new colors! |-/

Not so intersted...unless that is a new Chirox mask. It may be different, but the Matoran's is definitely a Kirop mask. There are hardly any new pieces; basically, the only real good thing are the hands; now those are neat hands for a canister set.

It isn't the best...Toa Ignika definitely comes first. I don't think I'll get him.

Hey, Shakar, Mutran himself seems the result of a bad experiment...lol. Got any Icarax pictures?

EDIT: Okay, Mutran's character MIGHT save him. But it would have to be a REALLY cool character...or the set could just grow on me. As of this point, the latter is looking unlikely.

VK

Edited December 6, 2007 by Visorak-kal

[Shakar]

Personally, I like him. Sure, the mask isn't new but I like his design. I think that the Chirox mask fits great here, since it looks like he has a giant brain, like the mad scientist that he is.

I managed to find the URL by looking at the product code on a picture from Brickshelf (which I found on BZP), if I can find Icrax code then we'll probably able to see him.

Shakar

[TheFrisian]

Sometimes I wish I was like you and most everyone else here, Tryanide, since you guys are able to buy a lot more sets than I can. Not that I'm being greedy or anything, but because of my tight budget I only can buy sets that I'm sure I'll be happy with, causing me to think over my wishlists so many times it sends my head spinning. *wacko* :-P

I know exactly what you're going through Grevious, I have the same problem! I too am a bit jealous of people who can buy whatever they want, even get multiples sometimes. Even though I kinda like the looks of next years bad guys, I don't know if I'll get around to actually buying some of them.

[Visorak-kal]

Personally, I like him. Sure, the mask isn't new but I like his design. I think that the Chirox mask fits great here, since it looks like he has a giant brain, like the mad scientist that he is.

I managed to find the URL by looking at the product code on a picture from Brickshelf (which I found on BZP), if I can find Icrax code then we'll probably able to see him.

Shakar

Oh, no, I didn't mean he was a bad set, Shakar. I am just not sure if it is worth the space when chirox's style is nicer.

I may get him yet, though...sets tend to grow on me over time. He is a good set, but I have a little bit of a space problem.

VK

[Ikki o' Moopyville]

Too bad the Makuta are a huge step down from the Barraki and the Nuva are merely recolored Mahrinika. :-/ I see some potential in Kopaka and Lewa, though, especially since the latter now for sure has dark bley armor -- may get him for modification purposes.

Also, here's hoping the Av-Matoran have torsos consisting of more than one piece. Probably the biggest plus in 2008, Bionicle-wise, is the masks.

-Ikk

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Why are all the special edition sets lime green? :-|

Looks kind of cool though... not so original, but has awesome hands.

Mutran is okay... Vigao seems cool...

And I don't see how this is a step down from the Mahri... the Mahri were basically the same thing.

-ZotS

[Ikki o' Moopyville]

Well, yes, that's why -- the Mahri showed innovation in being at least reasonably different from their predecessors, whereas the Nuva are mere recolors of the Mahrinika, thus lacking practically any originality. You're right, though, that if you judge them not based on their chronology, the Nuva are probably (at least to me) better by a bit. Mostly because they actually resemble their characters.

-Ikk

Edited December 6, 2007 by Ikki o' Moopyville

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Actually... I don't think they resemble their old selves that much... other than Lewa and Kopaka's mask. Oh, and Pohatu's shortness. Still cool sets though...

-ZotS

[Ikki o' Moopyville]

I guess that's in the eye of the beholder. :-D

Did I mention those Av-Matoran limbs are sweeeeet? *sweet*

-Ikk

Edited December 7, 2007 by Ikki o' Moopyville

[Zarkan]

Ah great, there goes another chunk of my hopes for Bionicle 2008. I mean, as Visorak Kal said, Mutran is basically a recolored Chirox with different weapons and bigger hands, but for some reason I actually like him a bit better than Chirox, unlike Visorak Kal. I think it

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Wow, just noticed how you all hate the lack of collectible masks, and diss Mutran just 'cause he has a recolour. Wow...

-ZotS

[Clonie]

Wow, just noticed how you all hate the lack of collectible masks, and diss Mutran just 'cause he has a recolour. Wow...

-ZotS

Woo! Pwnage.

[Shine]

The real Icarax.

Gotta be one of the worst sets I've seen.

[Clonie]

The real Icarax.

Gotta be one of the worst sets I've seen.

Meanie. >>

Hey, at least he - oh crap. Rayg and I owe someone a million bucks. X-D

[Shakar]

That guy is Icarax? After all those awesome 2008 sets, seeing this dark red mess with a Kraakhan (an old mold) slapped on it makes me sad. I was excepting a lot more, Lego.

Thinking of it, the design isn't THAT bad. Maybe he'll look better if I give him a few more black pieces and Radiak's (sweet) mask. But then he'd look too much like Antroz...

Shakar

[KMOI]

Wow, just noticed how you all hate the lack of collectible masks, and diss Mutran just 'cause he has a recolour. Wow...

-ZotS

I don't see how this is supposed to be shocking at all. Not to mention that you've completely read his post wrong. He said the Matoran IS a recolor. Grevious has an argument that's actually alot more structured than anything I've seen lately. Also, it seems you've chosen to completely disregard his previous post with his main gripes here.

As for Icarax, wow. Haha, oh wow, so much for me having faith in the Titans for 2008! I mean, I understand the theme is air and they have to fly, but is it nessesary that they ALL have to have such minimalistic builds? I mean, it may look good now, but take a look at those shins. They're just Rahkshi shins and ONLY Rahkshi shins. Not even a slight attempt to even add depth on the back of the leg. Overall, it just looks pretty simple at this point, especially with the mask. I just can't understand why they went out of their way to make a billion new different wing panels, yet they've decided to completely neglect giving Icarax a slightly different mask design. And this is just a few of my gripes about this set! This is yet another pass on a long, long list of passes. I just hope the minifig sets are done well and that they don't decide to use the same heads for every characters like last time!

Man, at this rate, I'll have enough extra money to purchase whole product lines. :-P

[Shakar]

Sorry to burst your bubble KMOI, but Greg confirmed that there will be not be playsets next year.

Shakar

[Visorak-kal]

Wow, just noticed how you all hate the lack of collectible masks, and diss Mutran just 'cause he has a recolour. Wow...

-ZotS

Actually, I don't mind the mask (although I DO prefer new masks on new sets. 3 bucks for recolor masks is the point of collectibles.) I just minded the usage of Chirox wings, Chirox body armor (the Metru thing), Antroz feet, etc. But, actually, the Matoran is not a remake of Kirop; I was incorrect. The arms and legs ARE different. I just like Chirox's wing design better.

But I think we're forgetting something; Mutran is supposedly 15 dollars and he comes with a Matoran. That means that we really shouldn't be looking at him as a Titan. We should be looking at him as a canister set. And, thinking of that, he is a pretty cool canister set.

Icarax, on the other hand, is a Titan.

I like the color scheme, the mask, the legs, etc. The arms could do with more bulk, but Umbra's didn't have bulk either and they still looked cool. There ARE two things I don't like:

A. The usage of Ehlek claws and lack of hands. I thought Titans were to a point where they consistently had actual hands? The Ehlek claws are not hand-like enough, though just last night I was having trouble thinking of new hand-designs for Titans. I couldn't think of any.

B. The body. Every Titan has had an improved body in some way; Icarax lacks that. His legs may make up for it with a good build, but the body build is lacking considerably; I like his double-wings, though, but double Antroz wings or some new type might have been more acceptable. For store-exclusives, which never use new pieces solely for themselves, Icarax is not bad.

I may just get him to see that shiny version of the Kraahkan. In addition to the good points I mentioned above. His body may have alteration just yet. After all, Umbra's looked hardly altered but included some build on his backside.

Remember Umbra, boys. Out of all of BZP, I was the ONLY person to like him in that first image photo. (GregF himself said so, when I PMed him asking him about Umbra.) As new images came out, it was clear that Umbra was the most underrated set of his time. I pride myself on that. Maybe the same will happen with Icarax! Yep, tons of people on BZP hate him too. ;-)

I mean, it may look good now, but take a look at those shins. They're just Rahkshi shins and ONLY Rahkshi shins. Not even a slight attempt to even add depth on the back of the leg. Overall, it just looks pretty simple at this point, especially with the mask. I just can't understand why they went out of their way to make a billion new different wing panels, yet they've decided to completely neglect giving Icarax a slightly different mask design.

KMOI, this is anything new. They didn't beef up a single shin in 2007. I agree with you on the simplicity of the arms and legs, but I have yet to see the back. And there are only two wing designs this year, KMOI; Antroz wings and Chirox wings (Vamprahs are just blue Chirox wings). I actually like the original Kraahkan, though I might switch it around since I like the other side better.

VK

Edited December 7, 2007 by Visorak-kal

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Wow... you people complain too much...

I love Icarax! I've been waiting for a unique colour scheme like that! And his design is actually original. His feet are very original, and his weapons are cool.

I don't know what's wrong with him having the old Kraakhan; it's the Kraakhan. Why get a new mold available? BTW, it's also kind of good for some people who didn't get Takutanuva back in 2003, 'cause it's the special edition version.

Overall, Icarax is pretty dang sweet. Better than Mutran (Mutran looks like crap compared to him).

EDIT: Notice on the back of the box, the Kraakhan is in the background? Sweeeetttt...

And I too hate the new Makuta bodies... at least that will (hopefully) all change in the summer.

-ZotS

Edited December 7, 2007 by Zaktan of the Shadows

[KMOI]

Sorry to burst your bubble KMOI, but Greg confirmed that there will be not be playsets next year.

Shakar

Okay, Bionicle now exists solely to mock me. Just when I was waiting for a Kopaka minifig head too! :-P

KMOI, this is anything new. They didn't beef up a single shin in 2007. I agree with you on the simplicity of the arms and legs, but I have yet to see the back. And there are only two wing designs this year, KMOI; Antroz wings and Chirox wings (Vamprahs are just blue Chirox wings). I actually like the original Kraahkan, though I might switch it around since I like the other side better.

I was refering to that there's nothing even behind the Rahski limbs, but upon closer examination, I see there's leg pistons. Guess I was mistaken. As for wing designs, I disagree. In addition to the two you mentioned, there's also the small wings on the evil Matoran, as well as Kopaka and Lewa's flight devices. And besides, I was using that to argue how they should have done at least a sligh variation with the wings.

I like that mask as much as the next guy, but seriously, this is a new character who is clearly not the Makuta that most of us have come to know. I kinda expected a different mask, seeing as how even the Makuta we know has already had at least 3 different masks (Infected Hau, Ultimate Dume, the now infamous Makuta mask, Maxilos).

BTW, it's also kind of good for some people who didn't get Takutanuva back in 2003, 'cause it's the special edition version.

Wrong, that's not the special edition. The special edition has a sharper "face" for the second side, whereas for the one in Icarax, you can clearly see the two mouth pincer things from the normal Makura-mask.

Edited December 7, 2007 by KMOI

[Visorak-kal]

Wow... you people complain too much...

I love Icarax! I've been waiting for a unique colour scheme like that! And his design is actually original. His feet are very original, and his weapons are cool.

I don't know what's wrong with him having the old Kraakhan; it's the Kraakhan. Why get a new mold available? BTW, it's also kind of good for some people who didn't get Takutanuva back in 2003, 'cause it's the special edition version.

Overall, Icarax is pretty dang sweet. Better than Mutran (Mutran looks like crap compared to him).

EDIT: Notice on the back of the box, the Kraakhan is in the background? Sweeeetttt...

And I too the new Makuta bodies... at least that will (hopefully) all change in the summer.

-ZotS

That's the special edition mask? Sweet! I never got Takutanuva, added bonus for the set.

I agree with what you say, Zaktan of the Shadows. I like everything about Icarax, with the exception of his main body; I was hoping, as I said above, for more build.

And new wings would not have been missed. I'm glad I can get the special edition Kraahkan! How do you know its the special edition one? Can you tell from the top? (I don't really know what the Special Edition Kraahkan looked like.)

EDIT: It's not the special edition? Oh. Oh, well, still a good set.

Sorry, KMOI, I thought you were talking about the Makuta wings; and technically, Lewa has jetpacks. I, too, would have liked new wings on Icarax, or at least a better variation than two Chirox wings on either side.

VK

Edited December 7, 2007 by Visorak-kal

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Yeah, oops, I made a msitake. At first glance, it looked like the special edition Kraakhan. Closer examination, I figured that it was the original. Oops... sorry if I got you hyped up for getting the mask. :'-(

I do have the special edition Kraakhan, BTW.

And yeah... sorry again...

-ZotS

[Tohst]

Is Icarax a Titan?

If he is one of the $15 sets like Nocturn, I think he looks great. Just seems a little sparse for a Titan.

-Tohst

[Zarkan]

OHHHHH CRUD! I let those words about Icarax being Antrox come out of my mask, and they come partly true! :-X

:-P Calming down, I must say that I couldn't be more disapointed right now. Besides the fact that all Makuta this year will proably use those UGLY tridax pods, Icarax himself is just really blah. At least they put some thought into his legs, but his weapons look so slapped on and pointless that it totally makes him look like a weak MOC. Then there's the fact that he's skinny as a bone, just like Mutran. Seriously, after all the awesome beefed up titans we got in 2006 and 2007, couldn't have TLC spent more time making these Makuta more armored? I don't know about you, but even though the 2003 Makuta wasn't the best Titan ever, he seriously had some metal on him, and he totally blows away these toothpick titans. Final disapointment: I was hoping for an awesome Mask of Shadows redesign, and now they just make this set pointless by slapping Makuta's old mask on. This kinda does make sense, storyline wise, but it still bugs me. |-/

Well, there goes any hope I had for 2008 Bionicle sets. At least I have the storyline to look foward to... :-)

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Especially after saying that only protosteel could cut a Makuta's armor... looks like anything could. X-D

Anyways, I wish we got the body parts in different colours...

EDIT: Ew, the Matoran are only 14 peices...

-ZotS

Edited December 7, 2007 by Zaktan of the Shadows