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Edit: Please note that this thread includes a mixture of posts from the 2015 Pictures & Rumours which have been merged with appoah4's thread.....

Staying true to the Falcon's character was more important than trying (futilely) to match the color scheme. The mix of light and dark gray (plus a bit of dark tan) accurately reflects the ship's age and battered condition, even though it is not even close to how the ship appears on screen. But that look also depends on lighting, anyway.

LEGO white is a very bright, clean white. In terms of RGB values it may be closer to the "true" color of the Falcon, but a stark white Falcon would look like coming fresh from the factory. Possibly the worst choice. Sometimes I wish our "very light gray" (appeared in Mosaic and Mindstorms) had made it into the standard LEGO color palette. It would be an awesome color for Star Wars!

Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond. A lighter grey,in the palette as a compromise would indeed have been great, but you make do with what you have.

Not that I'm second guessing your decisions, but I'd still like to point out that white doesn't look that bad on a transport ship like The Ghost, which isn't really that far removed from the Falcon as far as presentation goes.. I realize that it has a lot of bright colors to contrast with a bright white, but the white is also toned down with clever use of grey plating like it was done on ghost.. I guess I should just assemble the thing in white in LDD sometime and take a screengrab and see for myself :)

EDIT: This is what it looks like at the end of Bag 6:

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Also, if I may ask one more question, was there ever an idea of giving The Ghost interior space a la Falcon? I promise, no more questions after this.

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For £130 perhaps we should be getting something that looks good AND is correct, especially when that involves nothing more than just using the right colour bricks.

No, this is not how Lego works (by "Lego" here, I do not mean "TLG" but "designing a model with Lego elements").

I know many people can not understand it, but believe me, if you absolutety stick to how the model is IRL, it won't give a nice result in Lego.

Both regarding shape and colors.

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For £130 perhaps we should be getting something that looks good AND is correct, especially when that involves nothing more than just using the right colour bricks.

I like the set - but it's a step backwards (and ironically towards the bad old days where every set featured such bizarre colours...argh, brown TIE bombers?! Why God, why?!)

I fail to see how the set is a step backwards. Actual studio models off-screen, in normal lighting, look nothing like they do on-screen. I think if you took a poll of fans most would tell you the Falcon is more gray than white. Perception is important when dealing with fiction ;)

It's actually one of the only non UCS sets I'm tempted to buy.

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No, this is not how Lego works (by "Lego" here, I do not mean "TLG" but "designing a model with Lego elements").

I know many people can not understand it, but believe me, if you absolutety stick to how the model is IRL, it won't give a nice result in Lego.

Both regarding shape and colors.

This was correct in early 90s. In 2015 Lego has enough colors and parts to accurately model and represent nearly anything at several scales.

The problem as I see it is intent. The Falcon could have been white and it would have looked nice. That would just take more effort and resources than a quick rehash with a new dish and some new minifigs.

I fail to see how the set is a step backwards. Actual studio models off-screen, in normal lighting, look nothing like they do on-screen. I think if you took a poll of fans most would tell you the Falcon is more gray than white. Perception is important when dealing with fiction ;)

It's actually one of the only non UCS sets I'm tempted to buy.

Then why is the X-Wing 9493 white? It also appears worn and grey on screen.

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This was correct in early 90s. In 2015 Lego has enough colors and parts to accurately model and represent nearly anything at several scales.

Parts availability and colors palette has nothing to do with that...

No matters how many colors and bricks will ever be available for designers, it is necessary to reinterpret the real model to turn it into a nice Lego model.

Nothing to do with Star Wars, but as I am used to say with modular buildings, the key is not to take a nice building and turn it into a Lego set, but to take a building and turn it into a nice Lego set.

This may sound futile to you, yet it is essential.

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Looking at photos of various LEGO Millennium Falcons taken under sunlight or studio light conditions makes me think the light gray color works really well. Especially on the UCS Falcon. There is probably a reason why LEGO Falcons have never been white, not even in polybags or advent calendars. Or in mini and midi-size, for that matter.

I guess there is just no way to please every single consumer. Luckily our competitors have offers for more, erm, otherworldly tastes. Look, is that a white (radar) dish!? ;)

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Looking at photos of various LEGO Millennium Falcons taken under sunlight or studio light conditions makes me think the light gray color works really well. Especially on the UCS Falcon. There is probably a reason why LEGO Falcons have never been white, not even in polybags or advent calendars. Or in mini and midi-size, for that matter.

I guess there is just no way to please every single consumer. Luckily our competitors have offers for more, erm, otherworldly tastes. Look, is that a white (radar) dish!? ;)

*snip*

That looks friggin awesome, i totally want one (just not enough to spend $96 for one from aliexpress)

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Haha, this is what happens when you let Benny build his own Millennium Falcon :laugh:

Personally, I prefer the Falcon to be gray instead of white, it's just much more pleasant to look at :wink: And btw, you did an excellent job with the TFA Falcon, BrickCommander, it's an absolute masterpiece in my opinion :thumbup:

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Looking at photos of various LEGO Millennium Falcons taken under sunlight or studio light conditions makes me think the light gray color works really well. Especially on the UCS Falcon. There is probably a reason why LEGO Falcons have never been white, not even in polybags or advent calendars. Or in mini and midi-size, for that matter.

I guess there is just no way to please every single consumer. Luckily our competitors have offers for more, erm, otherworldly tastes. Look, is that a white (radar) dish!? ;)

*snip*

Seeing your competitors rip-off makes me want to claw my eyes out. But back to color of Falcon. I really like the coloring of it a mix of dark and light grey is perfect! Imagining Falcon in white makes me happy it will never be released in that color.

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Parts availability and colors palette has nothing to do with that...

No matters how many colors and bricks will ever be available for designers, it is necessary to reinterpret the real model to turn it into a nice Lego model.

Nothing to do with Star Wars, but as I am used to say with modular buildings, the key is not to take a nice building and turn it into a Lego set, but to take a building and turn it into a nice Lego set.

This may sound futile to you, yet it is essential.

While it is true that a LEGO model should be LEGO'ish and not always true to scale (all the MFs 'cept the 10179 are too small, heck even the ACTUAL MF is not to scale with it self!) it does not mean that TLG designers can't do better. In fact they did do quite good with the MF prototype (which contains parts never released), just compare that to one actually released ;)

This one :

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Compared to this one :

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Nah, blame the beam counters :thumbdown:

seeing your competitors rip-off makes me want to claw my eyes out. But back to color of Falcon. I really like the coloring of it a mix of dark and light grey is perfect! Imagining Falcon in white makes me happy it will never be released in that color.

It should be yellowed old white if you look at the studio models (that is PRE 2004 LEGO parts, not that new thing TLG is spitting out, that ages too well)

I'll be selling my sundammaged white trash perfect MF white parts in my BL shop very soon, hehe (not!)

Cheers,

Ole

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Looking at photos of various LEGO Millennium Falcons taken under sunlight or studio light conditions makes me think the light gray color works really well. Especially on the UCS Falcon. There is probably a reason why LEGO Falcons have never been white, not even in polybags or advent calendars. Or in mini and midi-size, for that matter.

I guess there is just no way to please every single consumer. Luckily our competitors have offers for more, erm, otherworldly tastes. Look, is that a white (radar) dish!? ;)

*snip*

How long until someone MOCs one of these after seeing this! Mind you, "5 blob" difficulty level is putting me off giving it a go.

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How long until someone MOCs one of these after seeing this! Mind you, "5 blob" difficulty level is putting me off giving it a go.

The difficulty level must be like that because you need a hammer to fit the pieces together!

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The falcon hasn't been white for decades, it's filthy. The X-wings got way more maintenance and cleaning than the Falcon ever did, that's why those are white in LEGO form and the MF is grey.

:grin:

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Grey falcon and white Xwing.. You guys so crazy..

Millennium-Falcon.jpg

Look up any screengrab of Falcon its NEVER grey on screen. In space or on land its white as a snowspeeder. Its white as Hoth snow!

Grey Lego kits are just wrong and miarepresent it.

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Grey falcon and white Xwing.. You guys so crazy..

Look up any screengrab of Falcon its NEVER grey on screen. In space or on land its white as a snowspeeder. Its white as Hoth snow!

Grey Lego kits are just wrong and miarepresent it.

Please tell me I am missing your sarcasm... White as Hoth snow...

That HAS to be sarcasm...

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Grey falcon and white Xwing.. You guys so crazy..

Millennium-Falcon.jpg

Look up any screengrab of Falcon its NEVER grey on screen. In space or on land its white as a snowspeeder. Its white as Hoth snow!

Grey Lego kits are just wrong and miarepresent it.

You have to be colorblind dude.

It is light grey even on the pic you posted. haha.gif?f-ed=1

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Grey falcon and white Xwing.. You guys so crazy..

Look up any screengrab of Falcon its NEVER grey on screen. In space or on land its white as a snowspeeder. Its white as Hoth snow!

Grey Lego kits are just wrong and miarepresent it.

The falcon is grey in color actually. :facepalm:

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This has been debated hot(h)ly in the scale building world for years, if not decades. You have to consider three things :

1 : What colour was the actual studio models?

2 : How they look through all that filmstudio processing, artificial lightning etc. Also different versions of the actual movies

4 : Lucas made MANY different MFs, X-wings etc in various sizes - and colours

3 : The colours available to us in LEGO form

The answer is ...

That none of them are white and very light grey is the colour that's closest, but you can only get a very limited variety of those bricks

http://www.therpf.co...ad.php?t=110132

You'll also see a lot of scale model builders using a very light tan for the MF, none such colour exists in the LEGO world though

http://smg.photobuck...n103-1.jpg.html

Cheers,

Ole

Edited by 1974
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Morr like Falcon in shade Xwing in light.

And the X-wing isnt exactly white either. It might have been rolling of the assembly line, but all that dirt etc... Just compare the lit parts of the X-wing to the snow below.

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