LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 In my opinion grille slopes are too large and I have changed them to 1x1 cheese slopes. If you look at source photos, you can see that this element is barley noticeable in the scale of model. Clever solution with that Imperial helmet How did you achieved that bulge on side armor ? Not only that, but the grille slopes are also too thick or wide, and that squishes them closer than they otherwise should be, but that was the sacrifice for aiming for greater accuracy aesthetically with these details. Also with these details, they are rectangular than they are square, so that was my judgement for using them over their 1 x 1 counterparts. Besides that with grille slopes, I can attach them backwards because of the grille design with (4085b) since the clip is thin. My design of the bulge is attributed to the use of: & bracket elements Quote
Kristof Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 I like the panels eventhough I agree that these grille accents are to excessive. I really like all these rabbets that are showing on render but my concern is, will this feature be distinct enough in real? Your render hide all the other seam lines which makes for very beautiful, yet not very real look. Otherwise the detailing is wonderful. That indentation on the bottom is especially lovely. By the way are you going to match the different horizontal sloping angle for the center and front/back panels? The one that makes for incresing the step towards the top? Anyway, I hope you start building real soon :) Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted March 2, 2016 Author Posted March 2, 2016 I like the panels eventhough I agree that these grille accents are to excessive. Well, I don't quite understand what you meant by the grille accents; I am assuming the bar things between the element? If so, I actually like my original design with 1 x 2 bricks without bottom tubes, because the cavity was deeper than the grille slopes, but the downside was that none of those bricks come in LBG or even LG (though there is always spray paint ), and the 45º 1 x 2 slope creates an unsightly gap. I think I will just have to go back and used the 1 x 2 bricks without bottom tubes and just spray paint, because they do look much more appealing: I really like all these rabbets that are showing on render but my concern is, will this feature be distinct enough in real? Your render hide all the other seam lines which makes for very beautiful, yet not very real look. To me, the rendering is ok (I would actually prefer LDD to POV Converter, or be able to do something with Mecabricks and Blender), as it looks a bit cheesy; not too beautiful without the outlines (the Bluerender program is not user-friendly like LDD where you can just toggle it on and off) and the lighting doesn't really reflect LBG (another adjustment not easily done). Anyway, the rabbets you speak of will be distinct enough to be perceived even with the presence of seams between other assemblies, because the elements to replicate this detail feature the groove design, which the gap will be significant enough for the detail to be distinct. Something interesting, the particular element I used for this detail is not stud-jumper plates with grooves, but (44567), because the groove design follows all the way to the edge unlike stud-jumper plates, so there would not be any micro gaps like you would normally see with stud-jumper plates and tiles. Here is a photo of the original design for the center panel: Otherwise the detailing is wonderful. That indentation on the bottom is especially lovely. Much appreciated! Here I endeavored to make sure it was a gapless transition. By the way are you going to match the different horizontal sloping angle for the center and front/back panels? The one that makes for incresing the step towards the top? I began tapering the ends of the center panel outwards towards the top, but it was difficult to work with and probably looked weird, since the ends of the side panels are not angled, but I will still look into it. Anyway, I hope you start building real soon :) Soon… Quote
Kristof Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 ^ I meant the grille slopes in general, I basically just seconded what Chupacabra said - that it looks to big for what it represents. But I think it's better than not having that veature so... no better solution in my mind :) Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted March 3, 2016 Author Posted March 3, 2016 ^ I meant the grille slopes in general, I basically just seconded what Chupacabra said - that it looks to big for what it represents. But I think it's better than not having that veature so... no better solution in my mind :) The elements are to large for this scale; it looks especially cluttered on the rear side panel, but recently I subtracted one to improve the appearance. An alternative could be to use stud-jumper plates, as I did on my original design, but that would not look spectacular on this scale. Looking upon this again, it appears to me that grille design is too detracting from other details with just how obviously apparent it is and how big the element is, so, I compelled myself to revert back to the design with 1 x 2 bricks without bottom tubes. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) I revisited the rear panel of the left side to redesign the DBG greebling featured on the lower right region. Well, actually I haven't left it, because I was not completely satisfied with how I designed it originally; quite simplistic and not so interesting. Due to the structure of the panel fashioned to maintain sturdiness and other things to remain proper as desired, the DBG greebling section is out of proportion with other details, as according to studio models. Also, the greebling details are no way close to be accurate to the studio models, but it serves its intended purposes: an exhaust-like thing with a bunch of random bits … Ultimately I came across door frame 60596 and a barred door to become aware of the extensive possibilities for how the greebling can be designed in this convenient amount of space… Edited April 6, 2016 by LiLmeFromDaFuture Quote
Smitty500 Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Wow. that's genius, this MOC is just chock full of little tiny techniques I would not have thought of. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 Wow. that's genius, this MOC is just chock full of little tiny techniques I would not have thought of. Much appreciated! Quote
Forresto Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 This is so exciting, new developments. I just learned how to follow topics recently so consider yours the first one I follow! Quote
Kristof Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 @LilMe This idea with doorframe greebling inlet is just brilliant. After some time, it's another jewel you achieved on this project! Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 This is so exciting, new developments. I just learned how to follow topics recently so consider yours the first one I follow! It is certainly exciting! I myself cannot wait to see what is in store for the infrastructure to tie everything together—time for me to stop dreading the overwhelming possibilities of how it can be done and just jump into it! Almost seven years being a member here and still discovering new things—never too experience to learn something new awesome. PS your 2nd photo is dead Thanks! Is there a blank photo, or is that complementary slang talk? I am unsure and feel silly @LilMe This idea with doorframe greebling inlet is just brilliant. After some time, it's another jewel you achieved on this project! Much appreciated krisandkris12! It brings to mind that I could use the same technique for the greebles on the rear of the roof! I thank everyone for their continual support! Quote
pittpenguin123 Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 It is certainly exciting! I myself cannot wait to see what is in store for the infrastructure to tie everything together—time for me to stop dreading the overwhelming possibilities of how it can be done and just jump into it! Almost seven years being a member here and still discovering new things—never too experience to learn something new Thanks! Is there a blank photo, or is that complementary slang talk? I am unsure and feel silly Much appreciated krisandkris12! It brings to mind that I could use the same technique for the greebles on the rear of the roof! I thank everyone for their continual support! Odd its this one when you embeded it says its no longer on flicker. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted April 6, 2016 Author Posted April 6, 2016 Odd its this one https://www.flickr.c...06/25656793595/ when you embeded it says its no longer on flicker. Oh I see it now, though it appeared fine some time ago, but I appreciate you for pointing it out. Quote
KevinYoung Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 Wow truly an incredible build. My hat is off to you. There is so many cool weapons and vehicles in the star wars series the AT AT truly has to be one of the grandest. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted April 7, 2016 Author Posted April 7, 2016 Wow truly an incredible build. My hat is off to you. There is so many cool weapons and vehicles in the star wars series the AT AT truly has to be one of the grandest. Thanks Kevin! It seems like every LEGO element involved has been made specifically for a time as this —I cannot yet profoundly express how beautiful this build is coming together—truly phenomenal! Quote
anothergol Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 Looks like AT-AT's (well, the sides) look different in that upcoming Rogue One movie. And for that movie Lego has an AT-ST in the making. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted April 7, 2016 Author Posted April 7, 2016 Looks like AT-AT's (well, the sides) look different in that upcoming Rogue One movie. And for that movie Lego has an AT-ST in the making. Yeah, something weird from the looks of it, but I hope I can come around to liking it. Though in addition to this (probably unnecessary) design (unless it has a canonical explanation), it seemed to me that the walkers appeared slender than than how they did in ESB? Wow a new AT-ST—great news! It has been so long, like 8 years; I hope Lego won't disappoint. Quote
mink66 Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 Looks like AT-AT's (well, the sides) look different in that upcoming Rogue One movie. And for that movie Lego has an AT-ST in the making. Yeah, looks like no chin guns and a much more tapered nose! Plus some mustard yellowish extended side panels. Don't like it right now, but I'm sure it will grow on me. LiLmeFromDaFuture, I went back through all your progress up to this point....truly amazing and inspirational! Incredible work, I applaud you. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted April 8, 2016 Author Posted April 8, 2016 Yeah, looks like no chin guns and a much more tapered nose! Plus some mustard yellowish extended side panels. Don't like it right now, but I'm sure it will grow on me. LiLmeFromDaFuture, I went back through all your progress up to this point....truly amazing and inspirational! Incredible work, I applaud you. What!? No chin cannons!? And again that weird panel design, why? Leave my AT-AT well enough alone Thinking of the cannons, why do the medium blasters have the same sound as the main heavy chin cannons? Anyway, thank you for looking back through the topic and catching up on all the updates and discussion—I appreciate the encouragement and motivation! Quote
atlas Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 Yeah, looks like no chin guns and a much more tapered nose! Plus some mustard yellowish extended side panels. Don't like it right now, but I'm sure it will grow on me. LiLmeFromDaFuture, I went back through all your progress up to this point....truly amazing and inspirational! Incredible work, I applaud you. Those thingies looked like they might be AT-AT floaties Quote
mink66 Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 Thinking of the cannons, why do the medium blasters have the same sound as the main heavy chin cannons? I'm not sure, but when you are riding in the cockpit of an AT-AT on Star Wars Battlefront and you switch between the cheek and chin cannons they do have two distinct sounds. Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted April 12, 2016 Author Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) It has been a while since I updated on the progress of my ambitious project to design the most highly detailed and structured AT-AT MOC ever. In my endeavor I have made considerable advancements unprecedented to prior installments of other AT-AT MOCs, and certainly there will be more to come as I advance with this tremendously phenomenal walker… Though right now is a delightful accomplishment for me, as I finally designed the middle joint ("shoulder," "tear-shaped part") that connects the leg to the drivetrain section. Previously, I dreaded doing it because I desired attaining a sturdy structure whilst capturing the curve and tapering contour. For how I plan to use the large type 2 Technic turntable to implement articulation in the joints, I believe this is only way it can be designed in a sturdy construction, with the current palette of elements, and especially considering that I am using Technic with System simultaneously. Photos of the design in real life will come once my order from B&P arrives, until then, enjoy these in program and rendered images : ) Unfortunately, the joints can only be positioned in 15º increments; nothing smaller than that based on a 24 tooth gear element. However, with the type type 2 Technic turntable implemented, a 24 tooth gear can be installed and will fixed the joint at the desired point. Edited April 12, 2016 by LiLmeFromDaFuture Quote
All in the Reflexes Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Thats a beautiful execution of the 'shoulder blade' LMFDF! But unless im missing something, surely those turntables have no chance of holding the weight of this thing? Is it being reinforced elsewhere at some point? Keep up the fantastic work my friend :) Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) Looking at the most recent design for the leg, I think There needs to be a vertical beam connecting both the top and bottom of the tear shape, otherwise the turntable will force the two haves apart under weight. and how's the other turntable connected? I think there needs to be some reinforcement beams to maintain structural integrity for it. I also think that the axle connecting the gear to the other half will twist like a screw under the weight of it. I think there needs to be an addition of wedge belt wheels on the inside of the leg, and secured to the turntable by some means. Edited April 12, 2016 by Tommy Styrvoky Quote
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