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4 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

That's why i never bought an animal from PAB (apart from the mouse). The prices for horses, cows and now the goat are insane! :ugh:

Well often it's (one of) the  cheapest option. But compared to a sheep or pig it's quite an insane price.

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Absolutely absurd prices. That's around the same as the last lions, which felt like a lot for those, but at least those were fairly big with multiple parts to allow pose-ability.

I'd have accepted around $3 USD. Not more.

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I wonder how long the grey goat will stay in stock with that price not to mention the aftermarket price will probably be way higher also. Bought two grey goats just now since I doubt can get a cheaper goat elsewhere.

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I’m confused, a second ago it was all fun and games when it was .59 per goat. We all know it was a great bargain and a steal, scalpers get brought up and then it’s back to complaining that it’s expensive at $5.17 per goat, wasn’t that the purpose of deterring scalpers in the first place? 
 

I originally wanted 10 but I’ll settle for 5 at that price 🤣 just got my confirmation that it went through. The good news is that it’s bestseller in the US 😬😬 

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2 hours ago, BitByBrick said:

The goat is now listed for $5.94 US. Unnecessarily high. Nothing but greed. WOW! What a slap in the face for consumers. Be better LEGO, or at least TRY to be better. Guess it’s time to storm the castle? Let our frustrations be heard… bombard LEGO customer service with calls and messages saying this is NUTS! 

It is not unnecessarily high. If it was $1.00, they would be out of stock already but available on bricklink and ebay for way more more than the $6 LEGO are currently charging.

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I recommend everyone that is disappointed to write a polite mail to Lego CS and say what you feel about the price of the goat. If they do not get any feedback they might think this a fair price for their products :sadnew:

2 minutes ago, MAB said:

It is not unnecessarily high. If it was $1.00, they would be out of stock already

They could just put a maximum number per order e.g 20 like they have done before.. $2-2,5 would have been a fair price..

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2 hours ago, Lord Sith Lego said:

I wonder how long the grey goat will stay in stock with that price not to mention the aftermarket price will probably be way higher also. Bought two grey goats just now since I doubt can get a cheaper goat elsewhere.

I imagine they will stay in reasonably good availability. I think the price is too high for resellers to stock up in the 100s. I really doubt the demand for goats is there, especially high priced goats. High prices paid by a few doesn't indicate that there is huge demand. How many people are really going to be using 20 or 50 goats to drive that demand? The original hype for the goat seems to be more that it was scarce than because people wanted to army-build them.  It has happened on quite a bit of Castle printed stuff, initially there is a lot of demand but the secondary market prices get driven down when resellers cannot shift them. The prices for a lot of Castle minifigure parts are now cheaper on BL than on LEGO.com as there is just too much stock in reseller hands to sell. What looked like a good investment when people were paying high prices soon becomes a burden when demand is satisfied. 

10 minutes ago, Roebuck said:

I recommend everyone that is disappointed to write a polite mail to Lego CS and say what you feel about the price of the goat. If they do not get any feedback they might think this a fair price for their products :sadnew:

They could just put a maximum number per order e.g 20 like they have done before.. $2-2,5 would have been a fair price..

20 x $2.50 is still $50. You still get free shipping and no processing fees at or near that level (depends on the country). Even if a bit cheaper, it is easy for a reseller to add a few more easy to sell parts. So they would just place multiple orders, as purchase limits don't carry over from order to order on PAB like they do for sets, and stock would be gone again.

 

As to emailing them, remember that these are not their products. Their products are boxed sets and retail products. PAB is really quite different.

2 hours ago, BitByBrick said:

Guess it’s time to storm the castle? Let our frustrations be heard… bombard LEGO customer service with calls and messages saying this is NUTS! 

What outcome do you want? As they are likely to just remove it from sale if it is costing customer services large amounts of time dealing with people complaining about a specific item.

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You were the chosen one, Lego! You were supposed to defeat the scalpers, not join them! Bring joy to the AFOLs, not leave them in darkness!

Man... Here I am, eating my words from yesterday. Very disappointing move from Lego. I am glad that this system at least exists in the first place to give us the option, but $5 is absurd for a goat. Even with the CMF (which I got a couple of), I also got a minifig, so I figured I was paying about $2.50 for the goat and $2.50 for the minifig. Take away the minifig? No deal. Maybe if I ever get around to getting the Medieval Town Square I might get one more so I don't have a lone grey goat, but that's about it for me. Shame on you, Lego. Shame on you.

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So nobody is complaining about the increased price in capes? But the goat is free game? 🤣🤣 8 bucks for a pack of four capes and retailing for 2.50 a pop.

Animal molds have always been expensive, but still, Now I’m curious if they will drop the white Series 25 variant

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21 minutes ago, eldiano said:

So nobody is complaining about the increased price in capes? But the goat is free game? 🤣🤣 8 bucks for a pack of four capes and retailing for 2.50 a pop.

Yeah capes have already been a bit ludicrous for a while, but they're just not as desirable an object as new animals so there's not as much attention on it.

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57 minutes ago, eldiano said:

Now I’m curious if they will drop the white Series 25 variant

In line with other CMF exclusives, I guess not unless it gets put into a regular box set. Although that goat is already reasonably priced on BL, especially if bought with the "free" minifigure parts. I'm hoping they do another couple of colours before they retire the mould, maybe a tan one, a dark tan one or one in a colour like dark orange. It will look more realistic than an army of white goats and grey goats.

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The thing about capes is that if you want a lot, it's very easy to create custom ones and it's hard to tell the difference. They don't fit into the system in the same way, so quality control isn't as crucial. And given that they don't produce capes in anything like the volume of plastic elements, I can see that their cost might be higher - especially when each one/pack is individually packaged.

But the price for the goat being more than double what similar elements are sold for smacks of scalping, which most consider to be unfair. You could look at it as supply/demand and maximizing value for shareholders, which is what companies are supposed to do. And then consumers are supposed to stop buying to lessen demand and so prices fall. Or, they increase, because it's a low volume item. But either way, it just feels like poor form.

Anyway, I've emailed them, very politely, to say that I'm disappointed by the price and won't be buying any, but I would appreciate them considering a lower price in future that's more aligned with similar elements.

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4 hours ago, MAB said:What outcome do you want? As they are likely to just remove it from sale if it is costing customer services large amounts of time dealing with people complaining about a specific item.

If enough people provide feedback, as I just did in a positive and respectful manner, your input and concerns will be shared with the powers that be. Since its re-release, the grey goat dropped in price from $5.94 US to $5.17 US. The awesome customer service rep shared that if there continues to be feedback calls and e-mails, the price could drop again. THAT is the outcome I want. 
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” – Edmund Burke.

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1 hour ago, RichardGoring said:

The thing about capes is that if you want a lot, it's very easy to create custom ones and it's hard to tell the difference. They don't fit into the system in the same way, so quality control isn't as crucial. And given that they don't produce capes in anything like the volume of plastic elements, I can see that their cost might be higher - especially when each one/pack is individually packaged.

 

Capes used to be relatively decent value. Prior to about 2016 or 17, in the UK, torsos used to be 53p and individual capes were generally about 50p, occasionally 60p but you had to phone to get them. One time I wanted 20 dark green capes and the only way to get them was buy the box for the Ra's al Ghul set. I think it was £1.98 for the box as it also had the collar cape, and Batman's and Robin's capes. I remember £40 seemed expensive for 20 capes but now it seems quite cheap. And of course I was able to sell on the unwanted capes.

But the prices for capes now really outpaces the prices for torsos when they used to be similar.

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2 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

Yeah capes have already been a bit ludicrous for a while, but they're just not as desirable an object as new animals so there's not as much attention on it.

I kinda wanted one for each Wolfpack I purchased recently for my castle sets, but I’ll have to scale back a lot, only like one will get it now lol

2 hours ago, MAB said:

In line with other CMF exclusives, I guess not unless it gets put into a regular box set. Although that goat is already reasonably priced on BL, especially if bought with the "free" minifigure parts. I'm hoping they do another couple of colours before they retire the mould, maybe a tan one, a dark tan one or one in a colour like dark orange. It will look more realistic than an army of white goats and grey goats.

Same with GWP’s if it’s not on a regular box it won’t happen, I did manage to find a lot on the wild when they sold them, so I’m good for a bit but I just wanted more for my mill village raid set!

50 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

The thing about capes is that if you want a lot, it's very easy to create custom ones and it's hard to tell the difference. They don't fit into the system in the same way, so quality control isn't as crucial. And given that they don't produce capes in anything like the volume of plastic elements, I can see that their cost might be higher - especially when each one/pack is individually packaged.

But the price for the goat being more than double what similar elements are sold for smacks of scalping, which most consider to be unfair. You could look at it as supply/demand and maximizing value for shareholders, which is what companies are supposed to do. And then consumers are supposed to stop buying to lessen demand and so prices fall. Or, they increase, because it's a low volume item. But either way, it just feels like poor form.

Anyway, I've emailed them, very politely, to say that I'm disappointed by the price and won't be buying any, but I would appreciate them considering a lower price in future that's more aligned with similar elements.

Excellent idea, even toying with the idea or pirate sails I need to look into custom ones because I wanted my Wolfpack hooded figures to have some cape, I’ll have to get creative on my alternate builds. 

I’m happy for the goat price, I had a chance to get the amount I wanted but the fact that it’s still available and not sold out, speaks volume on their plan that higher is working against re sellers. I might not like it, but I do like availability. 

37 minutes ago, upliftingbricks said:

The cow went down in price after about a year. Still massively expensive though

I got my goat at 5.17$, supposedly it was higher earlier by a few minutes. I do buy extra animals for my sets, the chicken n.6 went up from a dollar that it used to be to like 3.21 for each one.  

I think bestsellers pieces are priced higher than regular figures. 

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1 hour ago, BitByBrick said:

If enough people provide feedback, as I just did in a positive and respectful manner, your input and concerns will be shared with the powers that be. Since its re-release, the grey goat dropped in price from $5.94 US to $5.17 US. The awesome customer service rep shared that if there continues to be feedback calls and e-mails, the price could drop again. THAT is the outcome I want. 
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” – Edmund Burke.

I doubt the drop in price was due to customer complaints. It had only been available for what, a couple of hours?

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This business with the goat prices makes me not want to mess with PAB at all. The after market price really shouldn't influence their own. They are the creators of the piece, if a bunch of goat sellers lose money that's part of the risk that comes with being a re-seller. The goat's price being that high tells me they looked at Bricklink and priced accordingly. They could have sold it way cheaper and still made more than enough to make a good chunk of change. It's very well known that people want the goat, it's almost become kind of a meme at this point. They could've made a lot of people happy AND made money, those two things don't have to be mutually exclusive.

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If the goat were $3 they would have sold so many more. Higher volume does equal more profit. I can't help but wonder if this is a revenue test to see what will fly or not. I'd be surprised if the goat doesn't go down in price within a year.

On a different note, has anyone heard about the Dragon Knight torso from the GWP? I'm really surprised it never showed up on PAB. Were there ever rumors about it one way or another?

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1 hour ago, MKJoshA said:

On a different note, has anyone heard about the Dragon Knight torso from the GWP? I'm really surprised it never showed up on PAB. Were there ever rumors about it one way or another?

Why surprised? We had some parts that were exclusive to GWPs at Pick a brick, such as the Blacktron Minifig but the majority of them isn´t avaiable really. So while there was a chance it could show up, I didn´t put to much hope into it.

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3 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

 

If the goat were $3 they would have sold so many more. Higher volume does equal more profit. I can't help but wonder if this is a revenue test to see what will fly or not. I'd be surprised if the goat doesn't go down in price within a year

 

100% Agree. If there are lower than expected sales coupled with unfavorable feedback on the price, that very well may happen. Squeaky wheel…

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I hope a lot of people out there will do the same as me and vote with their wallets. I'm not going to buy any goats until they're under $3.

Honestly, it's not a very important piece anyway. I'm not going to give into the FOMO. It costs more than a horse, and I'd rather have more of those.

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I'm not sure why there's such outcry over the predictably high price of the goat (other than it's a goat) because every animal that's been added to PAB in 2023/2024 is expensive AF.

It's difficult to quote prices because they vary from region to region but this is evident with anything dual-moulded like the harnessed police dog, bulldog, large turtle etc. As per my last post the new white chicken and dark orange chicken are as expensive as the baby turtle. The Riyu baby dragon from Ninjago is almost as expensive as a polar bear and the new LBG dolphin from 60438 is 4 Euro.

I'll quote AUD prices for a moment but I was interested in purchasing an adult turtle and baby turtle from 60377 from PAB last year. I bring up the relevant PAB page and they're priced at $5.57 and $4.86 respectively. That's terrible value. The previous tan/dark red baby turtle cost $2.45 AUD. The manta ray and hammerhead from the same 60377 set cost $4.54 and $5.99 ($2.35 body + $3.64 head). That's a total of $20.96 AUD for the 4 animals exclusive to that set. I elected to forgo the 2 turtles I wanted. Until I found set 60377 on clearance for 50% off and I paid $26.50 for the whole set. Obviously 50% off for City sets is not the norm but I got the turtles I wanted and a whole bunch of useful parts (and a useless boat hull) but there's no doubt in my mind that Lego want me purchasing complete sets and not cherry picking desirable parts from PAB. 

This is not just isolated to the last 12-18 months, a baby elephant cost me as much as an adult Lion. But at least they are available as an option (and not pillaged by resellers) if you don't want the complete set, just don't expect to build armies of them. PAB is a now a terrible way to purchase animals and in my estimation it's by design.

edit: I forgot to mention in approximately 3 months times don't expect the complete adult gorilla (3 pieces) from 60437 to be at all affordable, at least the baby gorilla and red panda are found it cheap sets.

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