Brethren of the Brick Seas (BoBS) Introduction and Starting Thread

[Kolonialbeamter]

After a lot of reading there are still some things unclear to me

- Introbuild: do I simply register it via the FB-registration form, as I didn't spott any 'This is my introbuild, give me DBs!!!'-like box to check, yet found some entries in the january FB-registration thread. Or will the leaders take care of that differentiation?

- MCRA-builds: what's the official ruling now concerning eligibility? Ska mentioned somewhere they would be open to everyone, at least one per builder. But it wasn't official. I didn't participate in last month's MCRA, but could need the DBs, so I'd like to give it a shot.

- Free licenses: are they 'upgradable'? I read somewhere that would be the case with property, but for ships? Can I MOC a ship and then use my free class 2 license (worth 100DB) plus pay X DB to register it as a higher class ship (for example +75DB for a class 3F)? If so, how does this translate into filling out the ship registration form?

- Licenses in general: to what extend are they subject to trade? Are they fixed and 'player-bound' and cannot be transfered? Can they be up- and downgraded, or only upgraded via interaction with the 'bank' (=leaderboard, governments) for their fixed DB-value? Or are they open market goods, enabling a lot of economic mayhem later on in the EGS? It doesn't matter now, just for information, are there any thoughts on this or tendencies?

Thanks for any input. And sorry if I missed some obvious info.

More questions might follow

[Bregir]

Hmm, let me see what I can do in terms of answers:

1) You will get 25 dbs simply for signing up. IF you want to, you can (on top of that) register your introbuild as one of your monthly freebuilds and get an extra 10 db.

2) MRCA builds are for those who participated on the MRCA where you moc the outcome. So if you didn't participate, no go. (Unless leadership will allow you to moc someone elses MRCA-outcome, and then share the proceeds )

3) You cannot use the free license for anything else than class 0, 1, or 2. Not as a discount on a larger class. This was discussed earlier somewhere. So if you register it as a class 2, and want to upgrade it, I suppose you get your free license back, and then have to pay the full amount. If it is a paid license, I think you will just have to pay the difference plus a possible management fee.

4) Free licenses are non-transferable, but as far as I understand, once a property or ship has been licensed, it is tradable, meaning that if I license a ship and sell it to you (or have captured a ship with an existing license) you will get the license and can use it presently.

And you didn't miss anything obvious. Nothing is obvious here, you see

[Kolonialbeamter]

Thank you, Bregir, for answering so quickly and detailed. Very much appreciated

[blackdeathgr]

BoBS @ "Gricks" Athens LUG "Starwars Day" (where we built 3 UCS: Slave I, Tie Fighter and Imperial Star Destroyer. I co-built Slave I due to its unparalleled colors) Hermol was there to trample some Tie Fighter's wings and educate the poor fellows that there is another world besides SW universe , the BoBS one!

Stay tuned for a way bigger show late April-early May...

[Fuzzy MacFuzz]

'1) You will get 25 dbs simply for signing up. IF you want to, you can (on top of that) register your introbuild as one of your monthly freebuilds and get an extra 10 db.' (Bregir)

Is this right Bregir? Here's what the intro thread page 1 says:

'A starting challenge: This is open to everyone to complete once, and 25DBs will be awarded to the builder for completing the task. Build your sig fig and place them in a setting in our world. It can be in the colonies, in the motherland, at sea, anything you would like, but make sure to show the figure clearly and demonstrate the profession you have chosen for them in some way.'

I have submitted my sig fig but not my intro build yet (coming very soon!) so my understanding was that I wouldn't get the 25DBs until the intro build was submitted. Can someone clarify on this one? Thanks!

Edited February 20, 2016 by Fuzzy MacFuzz

[Mike S]

'1) You will get 25 dbs simply for signing up. IF you want to, you can (on top of that) register your introbuild as one of your monthly freebuilds and get an extra 10 db.' (Bregir)

Is this right Bregir? Here's what the intro thread page 1 says:

'A starting challenge: This is open to everyone to complete once, and 25DBs will be awarded to the builder for completing the task. Build your sig fig and place them in a setting in our world. It can be in the colonies, in the motherland, at sea, anything you would like, but make sure to show the figure clearly and demonstrate the profession you have chosen for them in some way.'

I have submitted my sig fig but not my intro build yet (coming very soon!) so my understanding was that I wouldn't get the 25DBs until the intro build was submitted. Can someone clarify on this one? Thanks!

A lot of us thought the same as you when we started but it seems that just introducing your sigfig is enough to qualify for the initial 25DBs.

[Kolonialbeamter]

Another question about the YMCA... MCRA... or is it MRCA?!?

No, that wasn't the question, it's this:

Can I mix ships of different speed in one escorted convoy?

The following scenario:

I have three trade ships and two escorts available. The traders A and B are speed 2, the trader C is speed 3. The Escort X is a speed 2, the escort Y is a speed 3. I could easily make up two separate convoys, one at speed 2, one at speed 3.

But can I create a two stage convoy, in which both escorts protect all traders up to port 2, and subsequently escort Y protects the remaining trader C up to the final port 3?

The rules list this 'different speed' issue, but I'm not sure if this scenario would be covered... and I'd prefer not to mess things up.

And if this works, how would that translate to the webform? Would I have to set up a trade mission for all traders up to port 3, with the slower two 'dropping out' automatically at port 2, and then apply the same pattern (including naming all ships to be protected) to the escort mission of both escort ships?

[Mike S]

Another question about the YMCA... MCRA... or is it MRCA?!?

No, that wasn't the question, it's this:

Can I mix ships of different speed in one escorted convoy?

The following scenario:

I have three trade ships and two escorts available. The traders A and B are speed 2, the trader C is speed 3. The Escort X is a speed 2, the escort Y is a speed 3. I could easily make up two separate convoys, one at speed 2, one at speed 3.

But can I create a two stage convoy, in which both escorts protect all traders up to port 2, and subsequently escort Y protects the remaining trader C up to the final port 3?

The rules list this 'different speed' issue, but I'm not sure if this scenario would be covered... and I'd prefer not to mess things up.

And if this works, how would that translate to the webform? Would I have to set up a trade mission for all traders up to port 3, with the slower two 'dropping out' automatically at port 2, and then apply the same pattern (including naming all ships to be protected) to the escort mission of both escort ships?

You can mix different speed ships in a convoy but they will all sail the speed of the slowest ship, meaning you will only be able to visit two ports. There is no option for two stage convoy.

[Vedauwoo]

Any word on the February MCRA port list?

Did I miss it somewhere....or is it the same as the January list?

Edited February 22, 2016 by Vedauwoo

[Garmadon]

Any word on the February MCRA port list?

Did I miss it somewhere....or is it the same as the January list?

I believe it was decided that there would not be a February port list since it is still pretty much the same as it was in January

[SkaForHire]

Correct, there were only minor changes. I will try to get the form up tonight, but we are only using the port values from last month. There will be a new list and a new zone map for March.

[SkaForHire]

The MRCA form is now available again for this month.

Note, there is now a section for pre-set convoys. If you are part of one that has been registered, you can just put the name of the convoy in, and skip the rest of the work. You should probably tip your convoy leader for setting up the convoy though! they still have to do the work!

Also, a note -- the MRCA will run the same as it did last month, although we have some interesting changes coming up in month three.

[Tomsche]

Aw righty, I think I managed to fill in forms for all my vessels

[Maxim I]

The MRCA form is now available again for this month.

Note, there is now a section for pre-set convoys. If you are part of one that has been registered, you can just put the name of the convoy in, and skip the rest of the work. You should probably tip your convoy leader for setting up the convoy though! they still have to do the work!

Also, a note -- the MRCA will run the same as it did last month, although we have some interesting changes coming up in month three.

It is right that you don't have to enter your ships name or your own name in the webform?

It just is:

* part of convoy?

* Name of convoy?

[SkaForHire]

Yes that was a mistake -- SO, everyone who has registered in the last 24 hours that did not have to put their name in, must go back and resubmit the form. It should be fixed now!

[Tezclatipoca]

Thank you Ska !

I did well waiting a little bit before registering my MRCA Form !

I have a hard question concerning the rules. I will totally understand if the answer is "game masters secret "

but I was bit concerned by the lost of my first ship and I studied the January MRCA results and it seems to me that the probability to loose a ship is about 1/10, it's the same probability to not succeed to earn money.

Ok then, but seing the price a master ship is (about 300Dbs or more for class 4 and 5) and due to the probability of wrecking it of 1/10 at every trade run, it appears to me that's hard to loose such a great ship on her first run, and that's leading me to a silly question :

is there a way to protect a little bit those kind of heavier (and costly) ships from sinking ?

And if the answer is no, how about the idea of using the hull value to count the number of epic fail it can be protected from ?

For example, a ship with a hull value of 2 could be prevented from only 1 sinking result, after what, if another sinking result is drown, the ship is effectively lost.

What is your answer Gamemasters ?

And what do you think of my thoughts ?

[SkaForHire]

The result of lost at sea is a 1/10 then 1/6, that is actually what happened to two ships during the january MRCA. I amworking on a few things that will lead to more experienced crew having a lower fail rate.

[Bregir]

The result of lost at sea is a 1/10 then 1/6, that is actually what happened to two ships during the january MRCA. I amworking on a few things that will lead to more experienced crew having a lower fail rate.

And this is for each zone, right? So that the longer the trip the riskier.

[Tezclatipoca]

The result of lost at sea is a 1/10 then 1/6, that is actually what happened to two ships during the january MRCA. I amworking on a few things that will lead to more experienced crew having a lower fail rate.

Ah great ! there will be XP points for crews !

But what do you think of my idea ? It's basically considering the hull value like a HP value, a hull of 1 is not preventing a LAS roll, a value of 2 is preventing from one roll, a hull value of 3 is preventing from 2 LAS rolls, etc...

It's easy and you don't have to add an other stat to the ships.

Ofc, it would be great if an experimented crew could add to this mechanics!

An other idea is to lesser the risk if you are traveling on a well known route, a.k.a. A convoy. The participants in convoys could have less fail rate than the others. IRL it's like this : no sailer is abandoning an other one that is in distress.

And this is for each zone, right? So that the longer the trip the riskier.

Yes it is for each zone I think ! You're right. Ofc, it's normal long trips are riskier.

[Capn Frank]

I'm trying to figure out how much money I have.

I got 25 DB from posting my fig, 10 DB from posting a FB, but I have 45 DB in the January listing. According to my bank statement, I have 45 DB. Did my Barracks or Challenge entry count as the additional 10 DB for January?

How much money can I spend now? My income was 45 DB, so I assume I have 36 DB to spend after taxes.

Thanks,

Phred

[TitusV]

I'm trying to figure out how much money I have.

I got 25 DB from posting my fig, 10 DB from posting a FB, but I have 45 DB in the January listing. According to my bank statement, I have 45 DB. Did my Barracks or Challenge entry count as the additional 10 DB for January?

How much money can I spend now? My income was 45 DB, so I assume I have 36 DB to spend after taxes.

Thanks,

Phred

I think you don't have to pay taxes. They don't come from your own pocket. Only additional taxes do, and I don't think there is an Empire doing that

[Bregir]

Probably your barracks - wasn't that a freebuild too?

Alternatively, you got 10 extra db for also posting your intro as a freebuild.

And about taxes - so far, they do not come out of your pockets, but are generated as a 20 % bonus for your faction. So if you make 10 dbs, your faction gets 2. (But you still get the 10!)

[Kolonialbeamter]

Thanks for clearing that up, Bregir

Petition to raise the tax to over 9000%

[dr_spock]

Thanks for clearing that up, Bregir

Petition to raise the tax to over 9000%

Better yet come join the Sea Rats and live tax free.

Edit Bonus adventures on the high seas if you aren't afraid to take your ship out of the port.

[Capn Frank]

Probably your barracks - wasn't that a freebuild too?

Alternatively, you got 10 extra db for also posting your intro as a freebuild.

I did register the barracks, but it was registered in the February FB topic in February.

I didn't register my intro as a FB since it was just three figs and plate.

And about taxes - so far, they do not come out of your pockets, but are generated as a 20 % bonus for your faction. So if you make 10 dbs, your faction gets 2. (But you still get the 10!)

I was just making sure, that just seemed weird in my mind.