Brethren of the Brick Seas (BoBS) Introduction and Starting Thread

[blackdeathgr]

That's the pirate life mates! Noone said things were easy on the outlaw side of the world!

[Garmadon]

Right, that all makes sense.

e.g. I licence a commerce for X DB, X/2 DB goes to the faction coffers, while the other X/2 DB is taken out of circulation.

The monthly yield from this commerce is Y DB, so every month, I get Y DB, while the faction gets Y/5 DB which is created out of thin air.

Which means the faction receives a constant revenue of ∑Y/5 per month.

In that respect, the Sea Rats as a faction are disadvantaged as they never draw the bonus 20% tax or licencing fees.

So what happens to their coffers?

On the bright side, individual players would benefit greatly in terms of personal wealth

Cos with X DB, one can now licence, 2 properties instead of 1, effectively doubling their income in double quick time!

Precisely!

[Tomsche]

Hey Vane!

Yes Flint?

I captured a prize today, had some food and stuffs, as well as a nice haul of gold.

Okay, just give me half of it then, as that`s fair.

Naaaaaaaaaaah

[blackdeathgr]

Black Sails forever?

[The Sarge]

I just licenced both of my properties. However, there was no place to mark that I was licencing my first property? I wanted to use that on the powder mill so it wouldn't cost me, but there was no box for it.

[blackdeathgr]

I just licenced both of my properties. However, there was no place to mark that I was licencing my first property? I wanted to use that on the powder mill so it wouldn't cost me, but there was no box for it.

Only the first licensed ship (up to class 2) is for free. All the properties cost money regardless if they are first or second or whatever

[Bregir]

Only the first licensed ship (up to class 2) is for free. All the properties cost money regardless if they are first or second or whatever

I am pretty sure the first small property is free too, BD.

Leadership confirm, much?

[The Sarge]

"Note: Just like ships in the EGS, builders do not have to pay for the license of their first property, but license for the property must be small in size (this excludes forts, which cannot be used as your free property). The builder should still submit the proper webform, but they should check the box that states that this is their first property. No DBs will be deducted."

The Land Thread

[Kolonialbeamter]

check the box that states that this is their first property. No DBs will be deducted."

The Land Thread

I had the same question stuck in my head, where is that box?!? Well, I just submitted the form 'normaly', hoping whoever is in charge is able to compute that the first registered small business is meant to make use of the free license. Fingers crossed!

[Captain Dee]

I can't answer the above questions but I'm here with some end-of-month news (yeah, Feb has 29 days this year).

In tallying up the approvals for third+ freebuilds, I see that many of you have earned 4 DBs by getting 7-14 approvals, and several of you have earned 12-14 approvals... but only 1 build (Sir Stig's Weave of Fate, Bardo) has earned the 15-24 approvals required to earn 5 DBs (with up to 7 available). I mention this just to remind everyone that if you want to earn them yourself you'll have to make the effort to award them to others. Some of you have done a great job commenting/approving, and I mention this aspect primarily for the benefit of the newcomers.

I'm impressed with the number of builds and the level of participation in general. Let's all show GoH who's boss around here - oh wait, half the leadership is from GoH...

Brick on everyone!

[Kolonialbeamter]

I'm here with some end-of-month news (yeah, Feb has 29 days this year).

CD, I'm counting on you making such a statement every four years now

Also, good job building and commenting, y'all filthy New Terrans!

[kaiju]

I had the same question stuck in my head, where is that box?!? Well, I just submitted the form 'normaly', hoping whoever is in charge is able to compute that the first registered small business is meant to make use of the free license. Fingers crossed!

Exactly the same here, never found a "first property" box.

[Fuzzy MacFuzz]

I see Nivremis has done a nice build with an oriental theme and i was wondeirng about introducing some oriental pirates to one of my builds. Is there a geographical home for these guys in the game? Basically a Japan/China themed country in the Old World? Would that be 'The Mokelei Empire and Allied States'?

Edited February 29, 2016 by Fuzzy MacFuzz

[Bregir]

I don't actually know, but I have a small junk coming up, and I was thinking they came from "The Far West" of the old world, parallel to the Far East in our world.

Will be looking forward to others' thoughts on this.

[TitusV]

I'd like some Oriental builds!

Completely different question: I have built a tanner of 27x21. Could I register that as a medium artisan? The rules concerning dimesions aren't really clear to me anymore

[kaiju]

I don't actually know, but I have a small junk coming up, and I was thinking they came from "The Far West" of the old world, parallel to the Far East in our world.

Will be looking forward to others' thoughts on this.

This was my take on it, as well, though I apparently forgot to include the "from the Far West" part when describing one of the characters in Drave's Emporium.

[Bregir]

I'd like some Oriental builds!

Completely different question: I have built a tanner of 27x21. Could I register that as a medium artisan? The rules concerning dimesions aren't really clear to me anymore

Well, I think this is in a greyzone, but to qualify for a medium license, it should normally be 32x32 or equivalent.

My personal take on this is really that we should stick religiously to these limits. Otherwise, we risk ending up with rules being bent more and more over time.

My suggestion to you, Titus, is to build something around the build (landscaping, warehouse, street, etc.) so that it covers at least 32x32/1024 studs. That way, there will be no question about its size qualifying for a medium license.

@Kaiju: I suppose it is the logical way to get around it - we don't actually know much about the west of the mainland.

[TitusV]

Well, I think this is in a greyzone, but to qualify for a medium license, it should normally be 32x32 or equivalent.

My personal take on this is really that we should stick religiously to these limits. Otherwise, we risk ending up with rules being bent more and more over time.

My suggestion to you, Titus, is to build something around the build (landscaping, warehouse, street, etc.) so that it covers at least 32x32/1024 studs. That way, there will be no question about its size qualifying for a medium license.

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Well... Suppose I'll register IT as a small property then. Landscaping around IT will be quite difficult , with most of my bricks used

Edited February 29, 2016 by TitusV

[Sir Stig]

Well, I think this is in a greyzone, but to qualify for a medium license, it should normally be 32x32 or equivalent.

My personal take on this is really that we should stick religiously to these limits. Otherwise, we risk ending up with rules being bent more and more over time.

My suggestion to you, Titus, is to build something around the build (landscaping, warehouse, street, etc.) so that it covers at least 32x32/1024 studs. That way, there will be no question about its size qualifying for a medium license.

@Kaiju: I suppose it is the logical way to get around it - we don't actually know much about the west of the mainland.

I prefer a little freedom here. Depending of your setup, it will be hard to match the sizes precisely for everything. I plan on making a setup with elevation with a lot of narrow streets and some odd angles. Building things in several versions just to register with exact measures feels like a hassle. As long as people manage to portrait what it is intended as, within reason, I would say drawing a line somewhere between the sizes suggested would be ok.

Example 32x32/1024 studs could be anything between 512 and 1536, From midway between 16x16 (256) and 32x32, and maximum x1,5 of 32x32. That allows creative freedom. Smaller builds need more detail, bigger ones can get away with less.

[Bregir]

I prefer a little freedom here. Depending of your setup, it will be hard to match the sizes precisely for everything. I plan on making a setup with elevation with a lot of narrow streets and some odd angles. Building things in several versions just to register with exact measures feels like a hassle. As long as people manage to portrait what it is intended as, within reason, I would say drawing a line somewhere between the sizes suggested would be ok.

Example 32x32/1024 studs could be anything between 512 and 1536, From midway between 16x16 (256) and 32x32, and maximum x1,5 of 32x32. That allows creative freedom. Smaller builds need more detail, bigger ones can get away with less.

I don't mind this, as long as we follow the spirit of the rules, more than the letter. It shouldn't be a shortcut to getting bigger licenses, I mean.

However, I will add that you can always build bigger. The build can be bigger than the license, but the license can't be bigger than the build, i.e. the build needs to be big enough to qualify for the license.

[Kolonialbeamter]

I prefer a little freedom here. Depending of your setup, it will be hard to match the sizes precisely for everything. I plan on making a setup with elevation with a lot of narrow streets and some odd angles. Building things in several versions just to register with exact measures feels like a hassle. As long as people manage to portrait what it is intended as, within reason, I would say drawing a line somewhere between the sizes suggested would be ok.

Example 32x32/1024 studs could be anything between 512 and 1536, From midway between 16x16 (256) and 32x32, and maximum x1,5 of 32x32. That allows creative freedom. Smaller builds need more detail, bigger ones can get away with less.

I think there has to be a formal limit. Otherwise over time more and more limits could become matter of judgement. And the matter of quality is already something that concerns me with some builds, so I would oppose adding another human factor into the 'handing out' of DB. Also, it would be way more micro management required to work out members' monthly DB yield from FB.

Edited February 29, 2016 by Kolonialbeamter

[Mike S]

My thoughts... I like the plot limits. It gives me guidance on where to start. So first I determine what size license I want which is mostly determined by the time and pieces I have available at the moment. Since I want to be sure the build gets done within the month, I have been going with small licenses. There is a lot that can be done with 16x16. When I decide to do a medium license the first thing I will do is put together a 32 x 32 base. Of course the base doesn't have to be completely filled with the building, but I believe that the entire plot should be utilized- take for example Kai's plantation. I think it is the perfect example how to utilize the space while the building/buildings are quite small. In my mind, a small license is any building smaller than 16 x 16, a medium license is between 16 x 16 and 32 x 32, and so on. However the base that the builds are on should show the licensed size (exception being licensing a larger build as a smaller build).

[Bregir]

I am with KB and Mike on this one.

[Garmadon]

I am pretty sure the first small property is free too, BD.

Leadership confirm, much?

Yes, the first small property is free as well I'll let Ska now about the missing box there

[Vedauwoo]

Hrmmmmm, so I registered my Shanty as a "small residence" as the shanty itself had a 16x16 floor....but seems I should've counted my entire 32x32 island build as well....

Is that correct?