Brethren of the Brick Seas (BoBS) Introduction and Starting Thread

[gedren_y]

In the back end where the form data goes, there is a date and time timestamp field which shows when the form was submitted.

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The link in the current thread doesn't even give a form at all. This is what it gives me:

February 2016 Free Build Form

The form "February 2016 Free Build Form " is no longer accepting responses.

Try contacting the owner of the form if you think this is a mistake.

[Maxim I]

In the back end where the form data goes, there is a date and time timestamp field which shows when the form was submitted.

What kind of feedback from the forms are you looking for from the forms?

Maybe Ska should appoint someone who has access to the webform results (as spectator), so everyone can spam that guy/girl when they are not sure if they registered or not.

I am volunteering for the ship licence webform as I combine it with the Ship Index :)

[dr_spock]

The link in the current thread doesn't even give a form at all. This is what it gives me:

Shiver me timbers, it was working a couple of days ago. I saw data from March 4th. I think the accepting responses has been turned off. We'll have to wait for Ska.

[Captain Braunsfeld]

What kind of feedback from the forms are you looking for from the forms?

I would like to see what I have licensed and which freebuild has been registered.

[SkaForHire]

Thank you... I guess

I have a suggestion to add to my above points.

The option to have your captures condenmed as prizes. Imagine you do not want to use the captured vessel (license) as it is, nor want to hassle with selling it. (Although you could ask someone else to do it, for instance Maxim, for a small fee.)

In that case, you can send it to the prize agent, for a part of the license value. The ship will then story-wise be sold to an NPC, possible back in the old world. (It will "disappear" from the game)

I'd suggest the follwing calculation:

You (well, someone else) rolls a normal 6 sided dice, for the following share of license value:

1. 20 %
   
2. 30 %
   
3. 40 %
   
4. 50 %
   
5. 60%
   
6. 75%
   

This will reflect the uncertainties of the prize courts, and the related auctions, but at the same time allowing players to capitalize what they have captured, if they need the money elsewhere, but have no patience for a "real" auction.

I cap it at a "lucky" 75 %, as an un-moc'ed ship will always be of less value than a moc'ed one.

(If we wanted to allow players to prize condemn moc'ed ships too, we could add 25 % to all the outcomes. That could make it viable to moc a ship, even if you didn't want to use it, but simply to gain more from the prize courts.)

Thoughts and comments welcome.

This works for me, I was just going to say that everyone had the option to NPC sell for 50% but this is more realistic. Also, just to clarify, as I am pretty sure you meant this, but people couldn't just moc ships, not license them, and sell them in the prize court.

The FB form is closed for retooling. It will be open soon.

[Bregir]

Glad you like it - I think it would work out fine - and in my mind, faction captures can be monetised the same way.

And yes, this would only work for captured ships (which means they are licensed). My point was, that if you capture a ship that was already moc'ed, or if you moc your capture, you could get a higher yield.

[Vedauwoo]

I would like to see what I have licensed and which freebuild has been registered.

I would like this as well....

either some sort of acknowledgement post in the FB thread to indicate the license was applied....or adding "Licensed" or "LP" (licensed property) / "LS" (Licensed ship) to the Thread title maybe?

[kaiju]

A couple of questions:

1) The Mayor of a settlement, an ingame character is necessary but it does not have to be your sigfig, correct?

2) Am I right in thinking you can under-license a build (license it as a smaller property than the actual build) but not the reverse?

Edited March 7, 2016 by kaiju

[dr_spock]

A couple of questions:

1) The Mayor of a settlement, an ingame character is necessary but it does not have to be your sigfig, correct?

2) Am I right in thinking you can under-license a build (license it as a smaller property than the actual build) but not the reverse?

1) It doesn't have to be your sigfig.

Every settlement has a mayor. A builder can only be the mayor of one city, even if they have multiple characters - they can only collect one salary. The mayor is paid every month according to the size of the settlement. Larger settlements have civil servant positions that are also paid. A builder can control up to 5 civil servants, but each position must have a different character attributed to it, and a mayor cannot be a civil servant at the same time.

2) Yes, you can license a larger build for a smaller license but not the other way around. I did that for my 16x32 factory. I didn't feel it was big enough for 32x32 medium and licensed it for the free first small (16x16).

[Bregir]

A question:

If I buy a captured vessel, bringing me into the bracket where there is a penalty on licensing costs, do I have to pay the difference before she can be considered active? (Eg. 50 % penalty on the 4th ship would mean 50 dbs for a class 2F)

I think this would make sense, but I would like to have it confirmed. Some of us are closing on that limit.

And I suppose joint owned ships (like the Sulky Harlequin or the Purple Rain) counts towards the main owner's number? (Mike and Maxim, respectively)

[Kai NRG]

The Merchant's Colonial Trading Company is hosting its first mini-challenge! Come on over and join in the fun!

[gedren_y]

This is the address I get when I click on the webform link in the Freebuild Registration thread:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jexP90eI3RRtvFecQw8MpdiWOkRd5tEE0wRqYLeNZoM/closedform

Could someone who gets the correct webform PM me the address?

[Kai NRG]

This is the address I get when I click on the webform link in the Freebuild Registration thread:

https://docs.google....NZoM/closedform

Could someone who gets the correct webform PM me the address?

The correct webform is not yet available.

[dr_spock]

A question:

If I buy a captured vessel, bringing me into the bracket where there is a penalty on licensing costs, do I have to pay the difference before she can be considered active? (Eg. 50 % penalty on the 4th ship would mean 50 dbs for a class 2F)

I think this would make sense, but I would like to have it confirmed. Some of us are closing on that limit.

And I suppose joint owned ships (like the Sulky Harlequin or the Purple Rain) counts towards the main owner's number? (Mike and Maxim, respectively)

There is a penalty for owning too many ships. If you add a ship to your fleet and it puts you in the penalty range, then you are charged the respective penalty fee, regardless how the ship was obtained. You can also unlicense one to bring your number back down no penalty range.

On joint owned ships, the ship count will be towards whoever is listed as the main owner.

There is no penalty for owning 1 - 3 licensed ships, but after that, the cost of the a vessel goes up depending on how many other vessels you have. The current maximum of licensed vessels one person can have is 12. You can always Un-license of vessel to gain a spot back, but remember, if you want to use that vessel again you will have to buy a new license.

[blackdeathgr]

I would like this as well....

either some sort of acknowledgement post in the FB thread to indicate the license was applied....or adding "Licensed" or "LP" (licensed property) / "LS" (Licensed ship) to the Thread title maybe?

M2 guys. It would be tremendously helpful as i keep forgeting what i ate any given day before

[Legostone]

A question:

If I buy a captured vessel, bringing me into the bracket where there is a penalty on licensing costs, do I have to pay the difference before she can be considered active? (Eg. 50 % penalty on the 4th ship would mean 50 dbs for a class 2F)

I think this would make sense, but I would like to have it confirmed. Some of us are closing on that limit.

And I suppose joint owned ships (like the Sulky Harlequin or the Purple Rain) counts towards the main owner's number? (Mike and Maxim, respectively)

Couldn't you always temporarily unlicensed your free license to get the next one for cheap?

[Bregir]

No. That would clearly be against the intent of the free license. This game absolutely needs to be played as a gentleman's sport, where the spirit of the rules is the final authority. At least, that is my opinion.

And I suppose you would have to pay the premium fee on the free license, if you were to use it for a fourth vessel.

M2 guys. It would be tremendously helpful as i keep forgeting what i ate any given day before

Helpful, yes. But it would also mean more work for the admins... The idea of an open register is better, I think.

[Tomsche]

Short question that got lost in the current discussion: do you need `approvals` for the MCRA result freebuilds as well, or do they just grant a `dry` 10 DB no matter how many builds you do in a month?

[Captain Dee]

No approvals necessary that I'm aware of, Tomsche.

[Bregir]

No approvals necessary that I'm aware of, Tomsche.

Yet, I believe leadership can invalidate a build, if the efforts is found to be too low.

We haven't seen a decline in quality so far, but it is nice to know there is a failsafe!

[Vedauwoo]

....but it is nice to know there is a failsafe!

One of my favorite movies!

[Tomsche]

BTW, do we need to fill in those adju... aduj... dadjum... correction forms for the Challenge 1 missing `prices` from the scorecard individually, or is it fine as it affected multiple players and it`ll be done in one go for all by `the powers that be`?

Just wondering as I`m planning out my income / expenses / auction bids for march, and don`t want to end up hanged by my toes

[dr_spock]

BTW, do we need to fill in those adju... aduj... dadjum... correction forms for the Challenge 1 missing `prices` from the scorecard individually, or is it fine as it affected multiple players and it`ll be done in one go for all by `the powers that be`?

Just wondering as I`m planning out my income / expenses / auction bids for march, and don`t want to end up hanged by my toes

The leadership is aware of the issue. It is not necessary to give the leadership more paperwork on that issue. (If your amount is incorrect after the issue has been corrected, then do submit the form to address that.)

[Garmadon]

Alright, the leaderships decision on over-licencing is a no. That would mean that captured ships could not be upgraded (except possibly under the MOCing the ship and the upgrading process clause later on), so if you have captured a ship and it absolutely won't work because you need a larger one you will need to auction/sell somehow the licence/ship and buy a larger one.

However, upgrading to the correct licence for a ship (up-licencing) is allowed. In order to upgrade a ship which has been already licenced you would need to state when you first post the build your intention of building the licence up to (fill in the blank). Ships that are already built and under-licenced will be reviewed on a case by case approach and need to receive an approval that it was actually under-licenced the first time and that the new licence would be appropriate.

If they are up for it, a commission of Bregir, Maxim, and KB judging about currently (possibly) under-licenced ships would be what we'll go for (unanimous approval being the requirement). After what we have now is sorted out, though, the "you must state the licence you are planning to build up to when you post/licence the ship" rule will be in place.

Exceptions to this rule may (possibly) occur, and with an actual MOC of the ship being upsized it may be eligible for a review by the commission of ship judges

Hope that answers all the questions here!

[Bregir]

Cocovia, March 9th, 616

To the Supreme Courts of the Brick Seas,

It has come to my attention that I am being considered for a most honourable position in service of the courts. I am humbled that the courts should find my limited qualifications sufficient for such a charge, and I should be honoured to accept.

Your devoted servant,

Jno. Cooke, Captain

PS. Have the Supreme Courts had an opportunity to look into my humble suggestions for a prize court? Should such a system be instituted, I hereby offer my humble services in its management, and hope that my two colleagues will follow my example. I suggest that the newly established triumvirat of the Naval Court could be a suitable institution within which to administer it.