Garmadon Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Cocovia, March 9th, 616 To the Supreme Courts of the Brick Seas, It has come to my attention that I am being considered for a most honourable position in service of the courts. I am humbled that the courts should find my limited qualifications sufficient for such a charge, and I should be honoured to accept. Your devoted servant, Jno. Cooke, Captain PS. Have the Supreme Courts had an opportunity to look into my humble suggestions for a prize court? Should such a system be instituted, I hereby offer my humble services in its management, and hope that my two colleagues will follow my example. I suggest that the newly established triumvirat of the Naval Court could be a suitable institution within which to administer it. March 9th, 616 To Captain Jno. Cooke Thank you for accepting the post on the naval judges' bench, may your job be easy and your pay high! (Disclaimer - nothing was ever said about any pay, btw - plus, you're already rich ) Your (humble ) suggestion as to a prize court has, erm, not been thoroughly scrutinized yet, but we shall be getting on it! From the Supreme Court of the Brick Seas, or at least this here member of it Good day in Cocoland! E.T. Wilkinsons de Chauncourtois Quote
dr_spock Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Alright, the leaderships decision on over-licencing is a no. That would mean that captured ships could not be upgraded (except possibly under the MOCing the ship and the upgrading process clause later on), so if you have captured a ship and it absolutely won't work because you need a larger one you will need to auction/sell somehow the licence/ship and buy a larger one. However, upgrading to the correct licence for a ship (up-licencing) is allowed. In order to upgrade a ship which has been already licenced you would need to state when you first post the build your intention of building the licence up to (fill in the blank). Ships that are already built and under-licenced will be reviewed on a case by case approach and need to receive an approval that it was actually under-licenced the first time and that the new licence would be appropriate. If they are up for it, a commission of Bregir, Maxim, and KB judging about currently (possibly) under-licenced ships would be what we'll go for (unanimous approval being the requirement). After what we have now is sorted out, though, the "you must state the licence you are planning to build up to when you post/licence the ship" rule will be in place. Exceptions to this rule may (possibly) occur, and with an actual MOC of the ship being upsized it may be eligible for a review by the commission of ship judges Hope that answers all the questions here! Corrington, Eslandola, Oleon. Hmm, where's the Sea Rats? What happens if the to be up licensed ship is captured or floundered before it could be up licensed? Quote
Bregir Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 I should be erhm... happy to have erhm... a proud free sailor of the Brick Seas as a colleague. However, in any case, I assure you that the courts will attempt to be entirely impartial in all cases, no matter the allegiance of the applying party. As to the question: This judge takes the position that the ownership of a vessel is irrelevant for the decision of uprating the vessel. The rules will be administered as if no erhm... change in ownership had taken place. Quote
Kolonialbeamter Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 If they are up for it, a commission of Bregir, Maxim, and KB judging about currently (possibly) under-licenced ships would be what we'll go for (unanimous approval being the requirement). Suggestion to open a PM for the matters of this 'License Commission'. EDIT: Sea Rats welcome! PS. Have the Supreme Courts had an opportunity to look into my humble suggestions for a prize court? Should such a system be instituted, I hereby offer my humble services in its management, and hope that my two colleagues will follow my example. I suggest that the newly established triumvirat of the Naval Court could be a suitable institution within which to administer it. Are the tasks of this 'Prize Court' meant to be combined with the above mentioned commission? Sorry, didn't quite follow the suggested procedures of this court. Selling licenses out of game by rolling a die, right? Quote
Bregir Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 There is a PM already, and you are invited. And yes, that was my idea, at least. Quite simple, in fact. The idea to combine it with this court was mine, as it seems we will not be overly busy with the other tasks, and have a nice representation of the different factions. (Especially if a (respected? ) Sea Rat should join too) Further, for IC reasons it seems logical as well. Quote
Maxim I Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Perfect decission! I am honoured to be part of the jury :D Quote
Garmadon Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 The Sea Rats petition for a member on the Court of Technical Licence Upgrading and Getting Rid of Unwanted Ships has been approved and the honorable pirate Dr. Spock has now been added to the commission. Yes, the sales court/prize agency/"get rid of your unwanted captures here!" thing has been approved of as well Quote
MKJoshA Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 This "Court of Technical Licence Upgrading and Getting Rid of Unwanted Ships" is a fabulous idea! Thank you to all 4 of you who are making it possible! Quote
gedren_y Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 CoTLUaGRoUS? Maybe you need a different name for a better acronym. Quote
Bregir Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 This "Court of Technical Licence Upgrading and Getting Rid of Unwanted Ships" is a fabulous idea! Thank you to all 4 of you who are making it possible! CoTLUaGRoUS? Maybe you need a different name for a better acronym. Yup - we are working on it! In other news, I have made a spreadsheet for keeping track of your accounts. It is available for free use from this link. I hope all possible transactions can be entered here, and I have not been able to find any errors in it my self. However, should you decide to use it, feedback is welcome. Quote
dr_spock Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Aye, tis an honour to serve the jury duty. In other news, I have made a spreadsheet for keeping track of your accounts. It is available for free use from this link. I hope all possible transactions can be entered here, and I have not been able to find any errors in it my self. However, should you decide to use it, feedback is welcome. Nice Excel sheet. Liquidity? Is that rich speak for account balance? I think a macro to show a hanging by toe pic in a cell when liquidity is negative could be a possible addition. Quote
Bregir Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Aye, tis an honour to serve the jury duty. Nice Excel sheet. Liquidity? Is that rich speak for account balance? I think a macro to show a hanging by toe pic in a cell when liquidity is negative could be a possible addition. Exactly! And as you see in the example it is perfectly able to handle large numbers! Quote
CelesAurivern Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Yup - we are working on it! In other news, I have made a spreadsheet for keeping track of your accounts. It is available for free use from this link. I hope all possible transactions can be entered here, and I have not been able to find any errors in it my self. However, should you decide to use it, feedback is welcome. Bregir, how about our PIPs? How is that calculated? Quote
CelesAurivern Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Well, hope somebody tells us soon, before we lose track of our PIPs :p Quote
CelesAurivern Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Actually I have some questions and suggestions regarding the licencing of ships and personal fleet positions. Scenario X: Flagship: Class 2A 2nd Ship: Class 1A 3rd Ship: Class 1A Q1. If by some unfortunate mishap, I lose my flagship, the 2nd ship automatically gets bumped up 1 position? Q2. I guess I cannot recover my flagship with my free licence? Since free licence only works when one has 0 ships? Q3. So in this case, I shall have to purposefully scuttle/unlicence my two other ships in order to get my Flagship back? I'd like to suggest that the ship designated as 'Flagship' be granted a certain amount of immunity. Such that it cannot be captured by another faction or NPC to be sold. In place of a capture roll, it can be considered heavily damaged and put 1 month out of commission. Quote
Bregir Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 You are always entitled to a free license of up to class 2. So if you lose the vessel that has your free license, you can license a new class 2 for free, so there is no problem as far as I can see. If you have a ship you can't lose because of story purposes, you should probably keep her out of the MRCA. The fun part about the MRCA is, to me, that vessels will be lost, and change hands over time. Quote
Tomsche Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Actually, the rules say literally that you only get a free license if you have NO ships Even if that vessel is lost, if the builder has no other licenses, they will again get another free class 1 or 2 license. So if you have (like me) a 2, a 1 and a 0, and the 2 goes swimming with the fishes, you don`t get a new class 2 for free as you still have the other 2 ships Quote
Bregir Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Pardon my lies and slander, then! I wonder where I have that idea from, then. Quote
Maxim I Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Hmm, I had the same as Bregir in my mind... Difficult case... In order to solve this, if you unlicence a ship, you are refunded right? Or second possibility, you can sell a nonfree licenced ship to a friend, use your free licence and then rebuy the nonfree licenced ship. So in the end it would make sense to grant a free licenced class max 2 vessel, even you got other nonfree licenced vessels Quote
dr_spock Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 If you send all your ships out on the MRCA and they all get captured or lost in a storm, then you get your free ship license. The Seas are a dangerous place. Safer to stay dry docked some times. There is no mention of refund in the rules. You would have to sell all your licensed ships to your friend, then your friend could end up playing the too many ship penalty before you get a chance to buy them back. The intent of the free license is to help players with no ships get going in the EGS game. Quote
SkaForHire Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 Well, hope somebody tells us soon, before we lose track of our PIPs :p Actually I have some questions and suggestions regarding the licencing of ships and personal fleet positions. Scenario X: Flagship: Class 2A 2nd Ship: Class 1A 3rd Ship: Class 1A Q1. If by some unfortunate mishap, I lose my flagship, the 2nd ship automatically gets bumped up 1 position? Q2. I guess I cannot recover my flagship with my free licence? Since free licence only works when one has 0 ships? Q3. So in this case, I shall have to purposefully scuttle/unlicence my two other ships in order to get my Flagship back? Just to affirm Dr. Spock, the free license is meant to help those without a ship get into the game, and help you recover from catastrophic failure. In order to solve this, if you unlicence a ship, you are refunded right? No. There are no refunds, in fact the upgrading thing isn't totally in the rules right now. PIPS are the total of gold you have made throughout this whole Era - PIP expenditures and gambling debts (you lose PIPs on gambling losses) We will probably have to divide it into PIPs purely off free builds and Total PIPs to make it fair to those who are not playing in the economy. There will be some sort of prize for those who win in the PIP categories. Maybe a high five... Quote
CelesAurivern Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 PIPS are the total of gold you have made throughout this whole Era - PIP expenditures and gambling debts (you lose PIPs on gambling losses) Yes, but this only applies to DBs earned via the FB, MRCA, Challenges, Rank salaries and other parts of the official system yes? But exchanges between player to player or faction to player do not count, right? Such as if I build a factory for another player for a fee. Quote
SkaForHire Posted March 11, 2016 Author Posted March 11, 2016 Correct... all types of DB gain are separated so that those transactions cannot be added in -- it is the same with taxation, we don't count payments in the 20%. Quote
Kai NRG Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 A reminder: there are 9 minutes left to bid on the Holder's Secret and the Clear Conscience. Edit: Bidding has closed, so to Elosterion and CelesAurivern, don't forget you have to MOC the ships by the 25th! Quote
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