Jacob Nion Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Well, I'm for burning. I don't think anybody has ever tried to do this. Techbically it would work I guess, the cutting edge would be covered by the stem. But there's the problem: the only thing that would become wider would be the stem. And you would also have to cut the midddle sections in half. Please return to the path of the righteous and deny such blasphemous thoughts. Edited August 22, 2016 by Jacob Nion Quote
Legostone Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 I wouldn't do it - it would be very difficult to get the bow to work out right, the same goes for the stern. After all, they are made for the width of 16 studs. For wider ships, either extend the hull using various inverted slopes/jumper plates or go full custom hull. This also gives you more freedom in the shape of a ship - curves are sadly somewhat limited by the shape of the prefabs. Quote
gedren_y Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 A big problem with cutting is you inevitably loose material. You would have to cut at least two of each piece to even get close to matching halves, and even then, the structural integrity of the parts would be compromised. Depending on what you use for cutting, the part could warp and be unusable. I advise against this. Quote
dr_spock Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 If you're cutting in half to expand the width, I suppose you can hide the imperfection of the cut under some plates used to span the two halves. Cutting can get messy with ABS dust getting every where. If you have a scroll saw with a shop vacuum attachment, it might not be too bad. Another option might be to design your own prefab hulls and 3D print them. It might be expensive if you don't have access to low cost 3D printing. Or make panels that can connect to an internal structure through studs or Technic pins. I made my own 13L thin Technic beams for my train engine connect rods through 3D printing instead of cutting a regular thick sized 13L beam in half. Quote
TitusV Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 If you're cutting in half to expand the width, I suppose you can hide the imperfection of the cut under some plates used to span the two halves. Cutting can get messy with ABS dust getting every where. If you have a scroll saw with a shop vacuum attachment, it might not be too bad. Another option might be to design your own prefab hulls and 3D print them. It might be expensive if you don't have access to low cost 3D printing. Or make panels that can connect to an internal structure through studs or Technic pins. I made my own 13L thin Technic beams for my train engine connect rods through 3D printing instead of cutting a regular thick sized 13L beam in half. Another one! Drow that guy Quote
Dannylonglegs Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Another one! Drow that guy Yeah. Drow that guy! But on the subject, I'm not a skilled customizer myself, but I would certainly agree that brickbuilt hulls are the way to go! I personally doubt I'll use many prefab hulls in my builds, with exception to the rowboat mould. Brickbuilt hulls, while challenging, offer the greatest customization options! ~Insectoid Aristocrat Quote
blackdeathgr Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 A question: Have any of you experimented with, or seen anyone experiment with cutting hull pieces in half in order to make wider hulls? The thought just occured to me, and while it involves precision cutting and the "creative destruction" of bricks (oh, the horror!) it might well solve some of the scale issues for larger vessels. (Please don't burn me at the stake for such a heretical suggestion!) Oh...but... Why!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Joking aside this idea is interesting but i can push forward that thought by stating that it would be a nice move to place two hulls side by side, to make a (way) bigger hull section. The point where the two hulls meet is covered as it is below the whole MOC. That would force you to make a brick-built bow and stern though and is limiting you scale-wise as by doing so, you cant experiment on the width stud numbers (you either have that much width as one hull or two hulls). Quote
Legostone Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 Oh...but... Why!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Joking aside this idea is interesting but i can push forward that thought by stating that it would be a nice move to place two hulls side by side, to make a (way) bigger hull section. The point where the two hulls meet is covered as it is below the whole MOC. That would force you to make a brick-built bow and stern though and is limiting you scale-wise as by doing so, you cant experiment on the width stud numbers (you either have that much width as one hull or two hulls). Also, if you just want to widen a prefab hull, you can just use a bunch of slopes, I think it worked well on my Dragon's Revenge for example. Quote
Captain Dee Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 A question: Have any of you experimented with, or seen anyone experiment with cutting hull pieces in half in order to make wider hulls? The thought just occured to me, and while it involves precision cutting and the "creative destruction" of bricks (oh, the horror!) it might well solve some of the scale issues for larger vessels. (Please don't burn me at the stake for such a heretical suggestion!) Uhhhh... well, for those faithless naysayers among us... actually, this has most certainly been done before, and while not exactly perfect (or purist) I must confess that I was impressed with the overall look, mostly because I expected it to look bad. I invite you all to look at this old and gigantic split-prefab copy of HMS Victory. You'll need to click the MOCpages link to see the work up-close, and read the builder's comments. It doesn't really have an overly accurate model-like appearance, but it definitely preserves the LEGO ship look for people who prefer that. So yeah, it can be done. I won't give my opinion of the practice. Quote
TitusV Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Yeah. Drow that guy! ... ~Insectoid Aristocrat Ah, I see. Should have been "let's drowN that guy! My apologies Quote
Jacob Nion Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Ah, I see. Should have been "let's drowN that guy! My apologies Too late to apologize. Now you have it hehe. Quote
TitusV Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Too late to apologize. Now you have it hehe. Wait, did I get a member title for something that still had to happen? I knew the EB-staff was powerfull, but forecasting... Quote
Dannylonglegs Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Wait, did I get a member title for something that still had to happen? I knew the EB-staff was powerfull, but forecasting... The EB staff is all knowing, and all powerful. All hail the EB staff. On the subject though, 2 hulls with a selfmade bow and stern would be very interesting to see. ~Insectoid Aristocrat Quote
Bregir Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Thanks for the inputs, guys. I am not saying I am going to do it - but the thought did occur to me, and I wanted some enlightened advice! @Captain Dee: That Victory is MASSIVE! On a different note, do we have a new volunteer for publishing the King's Port Advertiser this time round? Quote
Dannylonglegs Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 On a different note, do we have a new volunteer for publishing the King's Port Advertiser this time round? Funny you should ask... yes. ~Insectoid Aristocrat Quote
Capt Wolf Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 But does the King's Port Advertiser have anything to report? It's been more than a month since the ships left on their MRCA journeys with no word of their fates. It looks like we need to postpone the upcoming MRCA even more. Quote
Kai NRG Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 But does the King's Port Advertiser have anything to report? It's been more than a month since the ships left on their MRCA journeys with no word of their fates. It looks like we need to postpone the upcoming MRCA even more. Reports are slowly trickling in... a trusty correspondent of mine writes that he has seen the type set up at the Advertiser's office... Quote
TitusV Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Reports are slowly trickling in... a trusty correspondent of mine writes that he has seen the type set up at the Advertiser's office... Thrilling! Quote
Legostone Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Reports are slowly trickling in... a trusty correspondent of mine writes that he has seen the type set up at the Advertiser's office... I've seen something too, but it looks like a part of the notes seem to be missing. Quote
Kai NRG Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 I've seen something too, but it looks like a part of the notes seem to be missing. Yes. I think a rat upset a tray of type or two. Unfortunately the all important information regarding the Eslandian ships of the line appears to have been among that. As it would of course be taken as a direct insult were the results to be published with such a gross omission, the Advertiser will have to wait while the apprentices go on a wild rat chase. Quote
Legostone Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Yes. I think a rat upset a tray of type or two. Unfortunately the all important information regarding the Eslandian ships of the line appears to have been among that. As it would of course be taken as a direct insult were the results to be published with such a gross omission, the Advertiser will have to wait while the apprentices go on a wild rat chase. I think you are talking about the Eslandolan fleet, as we currently only have one ship of the line (which will hopefully change)... ;) Quote
gedren_y Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 I think you are talking about the Eslandolan fleet, as we currently only have one ship of the line (which will hopefully change)... ;) Sorry, but the Golden Grasshopper is still in dry dock. Quote
SkaForHire Posted August 24, 2016 Author Posted August 24, 2016 If you are going to "peek" at the results know that the name of owner is wrong on the chart, go by the ship name and you will find your totals. Quote
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