Captain Dee Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Bregir, ever since my dalliance with GoH I realized you liked all things shipping but I didn't know you were into it that much. Now that I'm faithfully back home where I belong I thought I'd build something unique. I had almost gotten bored with shipbuilding (how or why I don't know) and while sorting the parts to a couple Brick Bountys I had a crazy idea: to build the best ship I could using only the parts or type of parts that came in the 2015 Pirates sets. After some experimentation I settled on a SOTL which measures approximately 115 studs at the waterline or 133+/- prow-to-stern. I was serious about using available pieces which includes masts and shrouds - both of which are ugly, but that's the challenge I gave myself. I did break down and use a few hinge bricks that didn't come in the sets, and a couple other odd pieces, but it's pretty true to the idea. As for firepower, I dropped a hint in the "Once upon a time" thread. That's all I'm willing to say right now... Edited January 21, 2016 by Captain Dee Quote
SkaForHire Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 I just finished building my Moc for Challenge 1 Category A. However, I was trying to figure out if that counted toward my 2nd free build for the month or if it sat alone and I still have my 2nd slot available. Also, there had been talk of using the 3 Royal Warships as escorts for the MRCA. Who do I need to talk to make sure my ship gets into the convoy (aka knows the proper route.) Thankee, Ska. I'd suggest everyone to read O'Brian's series of books on Jack Aubrey and Stephen Maturin - they are great books in their own right, plus they give a wonderful insight into life at sea in the Napoleonic era. :) @silentwolf: Challenge builds do not count towards freebuilds. And i believe we will coordinate our MRCA later this month, most likely through a private conversation, to which we will all be invited. @CaptainDee: That sounds... Awesome! Cant wait to see it! Bregir is correct, please feel free to keep building, you actually will get some DBs for the contest entry as well. Those will be announced after the contest is judged. Yes, I have an idea of where to send our ships, so we will coordinate in a few days after Iget a chance to actually get the MRCA form up! Also, I am not a mod, so I cannot create a discussion with more than 5 members, so it might be a few discussions! Quote
Maxim I Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Bregir, ever since my dalliance with GoH I realized you liked all things shipping but I didn't know you were into it that much. Now that I'm faithfully back home where I belong I thought I'd build something unique. I had almost gotten bored with shipbuilding (how or why I don't know) and while sorting the parts to a couple Brick Bountys I had a crazy idea: to build the best ship I could using only the parts or type of parts that came in the 2015 Pirates sets. After some experimentation I settled on a SOTL which measures approximately 115 studs at the waterline or 133+/- prow-to-stern. I was serious about using available pieces which includes masts and shrouds - both of which are ugly, but that's the challenge I gave myself. I did break down and use a few hinge bricks that didn't come in the sets, and a couple other odd pieces, but it's pretty true to the idea. As for firepower, I dropped a hint in the "Once upon a time" thread. That's all I'm willing to say right now... I digged it up to see the amount of guns your are talking about :) So the first rate ship of the line is coming to the Bobs sea... Quote
Captain Dee Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Correction: first rate PREFAB ship-of-the line. It's a big compromise for sure and length-to-width is way off even when widened to 20 studs. Should we be having these conversations or is it cluttering up the thread? Quote
Maxim I Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Correction: first rate PREFAB ship-of-the line. It's a big compromise for sure and length-to-width is way off even when widened to 20 studs. Should we be having these conversations or is it cluttering up the thread? It is part of discussing future events :D Well, I am really looking forward to see how you managed to have so many guns on broadside... Margot has been widened to 18 studs and it already became a risky operation Quote
Tezclatipoca Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Bregir, ever since my dalliance with GoH I realized you liked all things shipping but I didn't know you were into it that much. Now that I'm faithfully back home where I belong I thought I'd build something unique. I had almost gotten bored with shipbuilding (how or why I don't know) and while sorting the parts to a couple Brick Bountys I had a crazy idea: to build the best ship I could using only the parts or type of parts that came in the 2015 Pirates sets. After some experimentation I settled on a SOTL which measures approximately 115 studs at the waterline or 133+/- prow-to-stern. I was serious about using available pieces which includes masts and shrouds - both of which are ugly, but that's the challenge I gave myself. I did break down and use a few hinge bricks that didn't come in the sets, and a couple other odd pieces, but it's pretty true to the idea. As for firepower, I dropped a hint in the "Once upon a time" thread. That's all I'm willing to say right now... I digged it up to see the amount of guns your are talking about :) So the first rate ship of the line is coming to the Bobs sea... Correction: first rate PREFAB ship-of-the line. It's a big compromise for sure and length-to-width is way off even when widened to 20 studs. Should we be having these conversations or is it cluttering up the thread? Yes, Maxim I is right. I found the hint too ! And I am very curious to see how you will manage so many guns ! Even more now that you're saying the vessel is based on Pre Fab hulls ! Even widened at 20 studs, it seems a hard challenge you have decided to face. And, so, a promising one... I am very curious to see what it will bring to the BoBS seas ! (and I am not telling you the dbs it will cost you to license such an enormous vessel !) Quote
Mike S Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Bregir is correct, please feel free to keep building, you actually will get some DBs for the contest entry as well. Those will be announced after the contest is judged. Yes, I have an idea of where to send our ships, so we will coordinate in a few days after Iget a chance to actually get the MRCA form up! Also, I am not a mod, so I cannot create a discussion with more than 5 members, so it might be a few discussions! How long do we have to license a ship for this months MRCA run? Quote
gedren_y Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 It is part of discussing future events :D Well, I am really looking forward to see how you managed to have so many guns on broadside... Margot has been widened to 18 studs and it already became a risky operation I wonder, does your fiance appreciate her namesake being "widened"? Quote
Maxim I Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I wonder, does your fiance appreciate her namesake being "widened"? Owow ssssht :p hahaha :D Quote
SkaForHire Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 How long do we have to license a ship for this months MRCA run? Until the deadline of the MRCA, you could license it then submit the MRCA in the last couple hours of the month. Quote
SilentWolf Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) I have a question that requires an official opinion I think. My business is going to be a horse merchant. In regards to classification, would that fall under a plantation as it is farm related with the breeding of horses or under commerce as I am selling the animals. (The advantage to plantation is I have more space to MOC, but the examples tend to grown items. OR should I have a ranch for a plantation and a office in the city under the commerce tag? Edited January 21, 2016 by SilentWolf Quote
SkaForHire Posted January 22, 2016 Author Posted January 22, 2016 Well, you could do both! That would be a good way to get two businesses going, rather than just the ranch or a broker. I would personally classify the ranch as a plantation. Quote
Captain Dee Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Technically speaking any agricultural enterprise involving the sale of goods would qualify as Commerce - but obviously most of them would fall into the Plantation category. If you only built the ranch I would call it a Plantation (it serves as a generic term since neither Farm nor Ranch are options); however I like your idea of doing both the ranch and the office for the reason Ska mentioned. I think there's room for lots of creativity with this whole process - for example, does an iron foundry qualify strictly as Artisan or Factory? It would seem to fit the description of both (craftsmen for the former, producing something from raw materials for the latter), so the builder would have the option of going either way. Quote
Ayrlego Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 If I may, I would like to pledge the allegiance of my character, Captain Dirk Allcock to Queen Annetta and the Empire of Corrington. --- The eldest son of a wealthy Textile merchants, Dirk has not inherited his families love of trade. He leaves the running of the family business to his younger brother Callum. A passionate scholar, Dirk's vast academic interests include zoology, botany, cartography, classical history and anthropology. He keeps rooms in the capital, Bellson - of which he can most commonly be found in his study. Callers cannot be guaranteed he will be home however, Dirk spends a lot of time in the field, exploring, cataloguing or testing his latest hypothesis. He has authored numerous papers that are well regarded in the scientific community, including his most well known works "Freshwater Fish Species of Northern Corrington" and "Chemical Composition of the Secretions of the Common Oleander Skunk". Also a deeply patriotic man, some years ago Dirk Allcock purchased a Captaincy in Her Majesty's army. Currently he commands a company of light infantry in a regiment of foot. Together with the grenadier company, the light company is one of the elite companies in a regiment of foot and can be distinguished by their dark green epaulettes. Trained to skirmish ahead of the main battle line, light company soldiers are usually better marksmen who often fight independently or only under loose supervision. Captian Allcock now looks to take a journey of discovery to the new world, if he can serve the interests of the crown, all the better. --- Hi everyone! I am relatively new here. I've been trying to work out the rules for about a week now and hope that I have got it all right. I believe I also need to post this intro/starting challenge in its own thread - is that correct? Quote
Garmadon Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Welcome to the Brethren of the Brick Seas Captain Allcock, very nice intro story and builds! About your question, you don't have to post it in a new topic, but these builds deserve it so you might as well! Quote
Bregir Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 @Captain Dee: I am really into it, I admit. My father has sailed on a full rigged ship (and in the merchant fleet) and its always been an interest of mine - Some of my favourite novels are based on the age of sail. 62 guns? That is quite a few - I will be very much looking forward to seeing how it will turn out under the restrictions you have set for yourself! (However, wouldn't 62 guns "only" make it a third or fourth rate? Depending on the period, I suppose) @Silent Wolf: I would definitely do both! Or even more - as you develop your business, there might be more and more options. A ranch, a stable, an auction house, training grounds, etc. There are multiple options to expand the business (and the income from it, if you are part of the EGS ) @Ayrlego: Welcome - your intro is great, both builds and story, and it is great to see another man of science join our ranks! We may one day join into the same scientific fraternity - Dirk and Montoya definitely share a set of interests. Your study is just brilliant with all those great details, and the landscaping in the second one is nice too! I agree with Garm that those builds deserve their own topics, but there is no obligation! However, you can get 10 extra dubloons if you register them as a freebuild! Quote
Captain Dee Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Bregir - you might want to re-read my little hint. I believe it includes the word "broadside!" Ayrlego - Welcome aboard! Corrington really took off after a slow start. That intro is great and both builds are really nice. The interior is one of the best-equipped yet. Glad to have you with us. Quote
Maxim I Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 62 guns? That is quite a few - I will be very much looking forward to seeing how it will turn out under the restrictions you have set for yourself! (However, wouldn't 62 guns "only" make it a third or fourth rate? Depending on the period, I suppose) I thought it were 62 guns on broadside, making it a 124-gun vessel (so a first ship of the line)? Quote
Bregir Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Bregir - you might want to re-read my little hint. I believe it includes the word "broadside!" Ayrlego - Welcome aboard! Corrington really took off after a slow start. That intro is great and both builds are really nice. The interior is one of the best-equipped yet. Glad to have you with us. You sir, is crazy! That's not just first rate size - that is Spanish first rate size! @Maxim: Yes, I see that now... Does change things quite a bit... Edited January 22, 2016 by Bregir Quote
CelesAurivern Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) We're still in season 1 and you're all bringing out the heavy equipment already? Moderation, gentlemen :p Let us not start an arms race so quickly. Edited January 22, 2016 by CelesAurivern Quote
Mike S Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 If I may, I would like to pledge the allegiance of my character, Captain Dirk Allcock to Queen Annetta and the Empire of Corrington. --- The eldest son of a wealthy Textile merchants, Dirk has not inherited his families love of trade. He leaves the running of the family business to his younger brother Callum. A passionate scholar, Dirk's vast academic interests include zoology, botany, cartography, classical history and anthropology. He keeps rooms in the capital, Bellson - of which he can most commonly be found in his study. Callers cannot be guaranteed he will be home however, Dirk spends a lot of time in the field, exploring, cataloguing or testing his latest hypothesis. He has authored numerous papers that are well regarded in the scientific community, including his most well known works "Freshwater Fish Species of Northern Corrington" and "Chemical Composition of the Secretions of the Common Oleander Skunk". Also a deeply patriotic man, some years ago Dirk Allcock purchased a Captaincy in Her Majesty's army. Currently he commands a company of light infantry in a regiment of foot. Together with the grenadier company, the light company is one of the elite companies in a regiment of foot and can be distinguished by their dark green epaulettes. Trained to skirmish ahead of the main battle line, light company soldiers are usually better marksmen who often fight independently or only under loose supervision. Captian Allcock now looks to take a journey of discovery to the new world, if he can serve the interests of the crown, all the better. --- Hi everyone! I am relatively new here. I've been trying to work out the rules for about a week now and hope that I have got it all right. I believe I also need to post this intro/starting challenge in its own thread - is that correct? Awesome intro and welcome to Corrington! Quote
TitusV Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 That's a really cool intro! Welcome to BoBS! Quote
Captain Dee Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 CelesAurivern - not to worry my friend, this ship has nothing to do with gameplay and I assure you it will never be licensed. I'm building it for a very special purpose and I think everyone, from every faction, will appreciate that purpose when I post it. But no more hints... :) Quote
Bregir Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Even if someone ended up licensing a first rate, it would probably require so much wealth that the whole faction would have to chip in, taking away the possibility of doing much else. And what is one large ship able to do, if the enemy has 20 small? It can't be anywhere at once! But I will be looking forward to seeing whatever you feel we will all appreciate! Plus - there is nothing wrong with a healthy arms race! Quote
SkaForHire Posted January 22, 2016 Author Posted January 22, 2016 Technically speaking any agricultural enterprise involving the sale of goods would qualify as Commerce - but obviously most of them would fall into the Plantation category. If you only built the ranch I would call it a Plantation (it serves as a generic term since neither Farm nor Ranch are options); however I like your idea of doing both the ranch and the office for the reason Ska mentioned. I think there's room for lots of creativity with this whole process - for example, does an iron foundry qualify strictly as Artisan or Factory? It would seem to fit the description of both (craftsmen for the former, producing something from raw materials for the latter), so the builder would have the option of going either way. If we want to be technical a factory in the 1600s was not the factory of the 1800s, a plantation was likely to be referred to as a factory if some sort of further production happened there. Spanish Vacqueros (cowboys) actually belonged to both the hacienda (agricultural plantation) system and the factory system (manufacturing, in this case leather). My point is that we are very open to what you want to call it. I thought it were 62 guns on broadside, making it a 124-gun vessel (so a first ship of the line)? well that is pretty much the very top end of SOTL... Even if someone ended up licensing a first rate, it would probably require so much wealth that the whole faction would have to chip in, taking away the possibility of doing much else. And what is one large ship able to do, if the enemy has 20 small? It can't be anywhere at once! But I will be looking forward to seeing whatever you feel we will all appreciate! Plus - there is nothing wrong with a healthy arms race! Well, right now there is no monthly maintenance on personal ships, but that is only the first 5 classes, SOTL may need some upkeep -- after-all, they need it if they are owned by the faction. It should be my honour! Anyone betting, I wonder? there is still to be decided upon betting ALSO VERY IMPORTANT! @SKAFORHIRE: do you want to be the third and neutral judge? Yes, I can be the impartial judge. Betting can be done by anyone, but it would be very Eslandolan of someone to become a bookie here... haha. Quote
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