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  On 8/30/2015 at 11:10 PM, CM4Sci said:

Why do people hate the stud shooters so much? I love them, no matter how many studs I've lost :classic:

Would you rather have stud shooters or flick fires?

The stud shooter is nice in range and add some playability in some sets,but the design is not accurate and look chunky when compared to the blasters in any of the Star Wars movies.I would like to see a new type of the shooting mechanisms that able to shoot lightsaber blades,because launching lightsaber blades is more accurate to the movie.

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  On 8/31/2015 at 12:23 AM, ArmstrongYong said:

The stud shooter is nice in range and add some playability in some sets,but the design is not accurate and look chunky when compared to the blasters in any of the Star Wars theme.I would like to see a new type of the shooting mechanisms that able to shoot lightsaber blades,because launching lightsaber blades is more accurate to the movie.

I've never seen a lightsaber thrown like a javelin :tongue: Unless it could spin it on the X axis (I think :wacko:), I wouldn't want it. And you could shoot a lightsaber right now if you put one in a stud shooter, but it'd be too heavy to get very far.

My guess for our best chance to get Kylo Ren in a cheaper set would be the Battle of Takodona coming out in the new year with the rest of all these sets. I'm guessing this is where the final climactic battle of the film will take place, and I guess Takodona is the planet where the First Order operates from.

  On 8/30/2015 at 3:44 AM, Darth Caedus said:

It's the villains which really pretty much never break this rule in the modern line - Maul, Dooku, Palpatine, Vader - all relegated to big ticket stuff.

Palpatine was in that Droid fighter (Trifighter?) from a couple years back. IIRC, that was a $25 or $30 set.

Edited by rollermonkey

Agree with Dark Caedus on this one, I am. Strategically placing the most popular minifigures within the hugest sets is a more efficient way to sell what could not have been sold well otherwise. Imagine a 60$ ship, tank or whatever with everything but a known Jedi, and I know there are some, well I think they didn't get easy money on that one, even if the ship design itself is revolutionary. That's how powerful hollywood icons are.

  On 8/30/2015 at 11:10 PM, CM4Sci said:

Why do people hate the stud shooters so much? I love them, no matter how many studs I've lost :classic:

Would you rather have stud shooters or flick fires?

Stud shooters look really weird in Star Wars sets. I get that it's a play function for kids, but I really dislike them. I wish SW battle packs included standart blasters instead.

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  On 8/30/2015 at 3:44 AM, Darth Caedus said:

It's the villains which really pretty much never break this rule in the modern line - Maul, Dooku, Palpatine, Vader - all relegated to big ticket stuff.

Really? But you can get Boba Fett in 9496, General Grievous in 75040,and Palpatine in 75044. The sets I mentioned here are cost less that $40.

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  On 8/31/2015 at 8:28 AM, ArmstrongYong said:

Really?But you can get Boba Fett in 9496,General Grievous in 75040,and Palpatine in 75044.The sets I mentioned here are cost less that $40.

Yes, but Boba fett isn't a Villain, Greivous was not the most favorable villain, and senator palpatine doesn not appeal to most people. Unlike Emperor palpatine, which the only cheap set he was on is final duel (old one). The Big baddies never come in small sets.

I also hate Stud shooters. They look like a sawed off missle launcher with a grip handle ductaped to it :laugh:

Personally I love the stud shooters. Its a wizard play feature for kids, instead of those flick-firing missiles.

If I was still a child, I'd love the stud shooter; giving me more playability to shoot the enemy minifigures (and maybe even relatives too :tongue:)

  On 8/31/2015 at 9:16 AM, Slurpifier said:

Personally I love the stud shooters. Its a wizard play feature for kids, instead of those flick-firing missiles.

If I was still a child, I'd love the stud shooter; giving me more playability to shoot the enemy minifigures (and maybe even relatives too :tongue:)

As a Kid they are good, but as an AFOL i dont like them one bit. For every battlepack i have to order 4 blasters instead of getting a complete soilder. But, now I've experimented with them and made a legit missle launcher

We need to stop the discussion about the stud shooters,because discussing stud shooters in this topic is already been off-topic.Plus,this topic is named "Lego Star Wars 2016 Pictures and Rumors",not "Stud shooters-Is it good or not?". Ok?

Edited by ArmstrongYong

Not a fan on how Lego handled Kylo Ren,if we do get a decent redesign in the future I might consider spending money on that set.But I ain't spending as much as a penny on that god awfull 75104 set.

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  On 8/31/2015 at 9:45 AM, ArmstrongYong said:

We need to stop the discussion about the stud shooters,because discussing stud shooters in this topic is already been off-topic.Plus,this topic is named "Lego Star Wars 2016 Pictures and Rumors",not "Stud shooters-Is it good or not?". Ok?

OK.

So in topic question: Will there be stud shooters in 2016 Lego Star Wars 2016 sets, particularly BPs? :wink:

  On 8/31/2015 at 10:16 AM, Vodnik said:

OK.

So in topic question: Will there be stud shooters in 2016 Lego Star Wars 2016 sets, particularly BPs? :wink:

The odds are really low for them not to be..

  On 8/31/2015 at 4:59 AM, rollermonkey said:

Palpatine was in that Droid fighter (Trifighter?) from a couple years back. IIRC, that was a $25 or $30 set.

  On 8/31/2015 at 8:28 AM, ArmstrongYong said:

Really?But you can get Boba Fett in 9496,General Grievous in 75040,and Palpatine in 75044.The sets I mentioned here are cost less that $40.

  On 8/31/2015 at 9:05 AM, Lego Fett said:

Yes, but Boba fett isn't a Villain, Greivous was not the most favorable villain, and senator palpatine doesn not appeal to most people. Unlike Emperor palpatine, which the only cheap set he was on is final duel (old one). The Big baddies never come in small sets.

Lego Fett has the right end of the stick here. I'd make a small addendum to the maxim I stated beforehand - secondary tier villains or heroes have a chance of appearing in a smaller set only after they have appeared recently in a big-ticket item - then immediately will return to big-ticket status. This explains all the exceptions to the 'no cheap villains' rule:

-Boba popped up in the $25 Skiff only after Boba fans were milked bigtime with the then-unprecedentedly-expensive $80 Slave I. And sure enough, the Skiff is now long gone and ultimate Boba is back in the $200 Slave I (jury is out as to whether an inferior Boba will appear in the Carbon Chamber). Boba is also a unique example because to many - or I'd daresay most - fans, he is not a villain like Vader or Dooku or whatever. Boba is the King of Cool, a badass, an antihero, a rogue so awesome that his villainous alignment is irrelevant (and to those who still deify the old EU, he's an out-and-out hero).

-Grievous is indeed not the coolest villain out there, mostly popular for his gimmicks (four sabers, gravelly voice) - and I say that as a onetime fanatical Grievous worshipper. And again, he already had appeared in the bigger-ticket Grievous Starfighter from Clone Wars, so it's understandable that he'd get a brief appearance in the Wheel Bike. Grievous also is not a big enough villain to sell mega-sets on his own - he is strictly second tier. The upcoming $35 Constraction figure stands outside this metric since it's A. not a minifigure and B. Grievous is uniquely suited to this medium, being cooler than all the other Constractions combined.

-Lego Fett is also very correct about the important distinction to draw with Palpatine. The Tri-Fighter was a $30 set (not exactly peanuts) AND more importantly, it's CHANCELLOR Palpatine, not the Sith version we all know and love. And it's also his dullest Senatorial costume in the entire Prequel Trilogy. I am very glad the figure exists, but it's definitely not the dynamic Palpatine that people are ready to shell out big bucks for - Palpatine's Arrest Palpatine or Final Duel Palpatine show the validity of the No Cheap Big Bads rule.

-Even Maul follows this rule. Though ironically he was the first to ever violate it in the classic Jedi Duel kit, in the modern line he's a textbook case. We had the pricey 2011 Infiltrator, then the brief interlude of the robot-legs Maul at the cheaper pricepoint, and now we've firmly swung back to the expensive Maul with the $90 infiltrator and new definitive movie Maul version. Another interesting thing to note here - ironically, robo-Maul was one of the coolest aspects of the old EU... when we were in the pre-Clone-Wars era, the time of Visionaries Maul. That was one of the all-time most loved EU one-off tales and became many people's personal canon for the character. However, by the time Clone Wars got around to making robo-Maul, it wasn't that incredible - Maul mostly gets defeated and outwitted, only becoming truly cool in the Mandalore arc. Robo-Maul in Lego also unfortunately just looked kinda silly.

Bringing it back to relate to the 2016 Lego Star Wars, I'd bet my bottom dollar we'll see this hold true for all TFA Big Bads. Best shot at Kylo would be a snow-planet showdown with Finn for a Final Duel-range pricepoint, and even that is something I remain hesitant to predict. Hux is too visually dull to appear again so soon, even if the character turns out to be a cool guy. Phasma is already becoming a fanart icon and a fan favorite, the "New Boba Fett" to many - I rate the likelihood of seeing her for cheap just about as low as Kylo. Snoke of course will be expensive too, if they even make him at all before Episode VIII. There are also not that many slots for TFA in 2016. Lego gets three waves: the big January one, of which we know there are just 2 TFA kits, the Spring wave, which will at most have half a dozen more, and the September wave, which has to be all Rogue One.

  On 8/31/2015 at 6:31 AM, FrenchLegoBoy said:

Agree with Dark Caedus on this one, I am. Strategically placing the most popular minifigures within the hugest sets is a more efficient way to sell what could not have been sold well otherwise. Imagine a 60$ ship, tank or whatever with everything but a known Jedi, and I know there are some, well I think they didn't get easy money on that one, even if the ship design itself is revolutionary. That's how powerful hollywood icons are.

This. The last ten years will be more of an oddity in the future history of Lego SW, where we saw bigger characters get released in small, affordable sets, simply because they'd been done and redone so much it didn't make sense to restrict them to big-ticket tier items anymore. Now that time is done, and we've entered the era of new movies, where they will always be NEW Big Bads and heroes every year, so Lego can stick more strictly to the profitable, business-conscious model of cheap armybuilder battlepacks, medium range sets with a smattering of named characters, and wallet-busters with the visually iconic characters everyone is lusting after.

Emperor Palpatine is also in a book that costs around £6 or so in discounted online book stores.

  On 8/31/2015 at 9:05 AM, Lego Fett said:

Yes, but Boba fett isn't a Villain

What the what now???

That actually surprises me. I thought he would've been apart of the December 2015 wave of constraction figures.

By the way, something like that belongs in the action figure forums.

Someone mentioned on here the January Constraction figures are all TFA related so that doesn't really surprise me.

Though yeah this has a thread of its own soooo

I didn't know it had it's own page, sorry about that. I don't follow star wars that much and I don't check the action figures thread.

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