Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) It's AWESOME! And it's crude... - Awesome because the various wedge belt wheels are used to make the realistic exhaust pipes. I've already been impressed at how the buckets are used for engine covers. - Crude because the way the BB is attached. I've always suspected that the BBox is at the other side, because that's the only place left. But I didn't expect it to be attached that crudely... I thought it was hidden inside with only an extended pin to turn it on, like that in the 42052. But that open mounting BB does give the feeling of a factory; it's like the huge power building all plants have. Also, hi-res B-model from direct side view: http://www.legonewsr...h1-1920x821.jpg Observation: - There are 2 large turntables, which means in the A-model, one is used for the rear conveyor belt and one for the superstructure. - The XL motor is placed really low, just some studs above the tracks. - The filter must be very, very compact, because the conveyor that bring bricks from the pit to the far left belt is not very far below the pit. - The bricks don't fall through the upper turntable in the far right belt. But all in all, hats off to Markus for both the witchcraft filtering function and the appearance. The B-model really looks like and most importantly FEELS like a factory! Edited July 8, 2016 by nguyengiangoc Quote
Andy D Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) The more I look at this model, the more I like it. This one is going to keep me busy for quite some time with both the A and B model. Wow! Looking forward to reviews. Am I the only one that thinks that this looks like LEGO's entry into GBC? Andy D Edited July 8, 2016 by Andy D Quote
Alegomind Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Am I the only one that thinks that this looks like LEGO's entry into GBC? Andy D What does GBC mean? Quote
offroadcreations Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 What does GBC mean? Great Ball Contraption. You can find more here. Quote
Beard Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 The instruction manual is going to be like a book to me when I was a child. So difficult to keep from reading the last page... I am NOT going to take the instructions and look at how it does the sorting, until I am there with the build. Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I'm not fond of sets that are too big, since my place is really small, and too mechanical, because I rarely play with the models. It was a real concern for me about where to put this BWE if I have one, and while it looks cool, the functions don't impress me much. For me the mechanism in the A model really boils down to arranging gears and routing axles. But after I saw that other side of the B model I know for sure I have got to buy this! I'm a big sucker for realistic details, so I really want this factory, with the filtering witchcraft. On an irrelevant note, it's the same story for 42009 for me. What really made me buy it was the reach stacker, and its various details (walkways, handles) delight me a lot. I kept 42009 in the B-model form most of the time. Quote
allanp Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I like some of the regular Lego creeping in here, like the ladders and the drivers cabin window . Quote
Gnac Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I like some of the regular Lego creeping in here As someone who is wrestling with the idea of flogging a CREATOR collection to buy more Technic crack, I am already grumpy about this. I need to keep a separate tub just for all the System stuff wot adorns Technic models when they're unbuilt. Looking at that tub already makes me regret what I might do. Of course I WILL be getting it anyway, once Amazon knocks £40-50 off the RRP. Quote
ddeklerk Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 It is not unusual to find some regular Lego in Technic sets though. Some sets have more of it than others, but still. Like the Porsche. It uses system parts for the grille, lights, and dashboard. Quote
Gnac Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Yeah, I'm aware of all such as "the entire grille on 8109 is brick-built" and similar things. I heard the problem was much worse 20 years ago, when system bricks even had HOLES through them. Quote
merman Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Wow... soms statistics: - book 552 pages - 144 gears including gearracks (15) and turntables (4) - 724 regular black pins - BWE 669 steps - numbered bags 1-8 Edited July 8, 2016 by merman Quote
Alonzo Brickovsky Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 I heard the problem was much worse 20 years ago, when system bricks even had HOLES through them. Stranger still, such bricks now appear in Creator sets! Quote
Gabi_BC Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 - BWE 669 steps 3 extra steps for such a missed opportunity here Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Wow... soms statistics: - book 552 pages - 144 gears including gearracks (15) and turntables (4) - 724 regular black pins - BWE 669 steps - numbered bags 1-8 Where are they from? Quote
Kman860 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 My question is if it has a booklet for the B-model? I don't want to sit in front of my computer for 2 days. Quote
dimaks13 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 My question is if it has a booklet for the B-model? I don't want to sit in front of my computer for 2 days. Look at the back of box. Quote
gvo25 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 The B-model is awesome, it's the first time I really like the B-model equally (or more ) as the A-model. Well done designers Quote
dr_spock Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 The more I look at this model, the more I like it. This one is going to keep me busy for quite some time with both the A and B model. Wow! Looking forward to reviews. Am I the only one that thinks that this looks like LEGO's entry into GBC? Andy D It's looking to be a good parts set for gears, track threads, panels and black 2L pins too. Great useful parts for MOCing GBC modules. I think you can use the BWE for a GBC. It would be interesting to see how it fares running all day non-stop at an event with other GBC modules. You would have to build some sort of GBC standards compliant input module to feed the balls to the A model to scoop up. If you have two sets, you can have the A model output into the B model who then feeds the balls on to another GBC module. If you want to make it interesting, you can make B model separate balls from other types of LEGO pieces that the A model had scooped up. Quote
Bering Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 My question is if it has a booklet for the B-model? I don't want to sit in front of my computer for 2 days. I'm afraid there isn't an extra book.... I love building, but the computer spoils my building fun a lot too. On the other hand, i understand the environment part. However, this set is mainly aimed at adults, so why not go back to the old school instructions? 10 steps on one page. It's more challenging, it saves paper and we have printed instructions for the B model again. Please Lego! Quote
ddeklerk Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 My question is if it has a booklet for the B-model? I don't want to sit in front of my computer for 2 days. If you have a tablet I would recommend that. I found that better than sitting at my already cramped computer desk Quote
Alegomind Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) 4 turntables, 1 to make rotating the entire structure, 1 for rear conveyor .. then the other 2 (maybe small turntables) have to used for connect ther main beam to the rest of structure - 144 gears including gearracks (15) and turntables (4) with gearracks do you intend the new yellow pieces? I count only 14 of them.. Edited July 9, 2016 by Alegomind Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 then the other 2 (maybe small turntables) have to used for connect ther main beam to the rest of structure I don't quite understand... Where would the other 2 turntables be in the A-model? Can you explain in more details? Quote
Alegomind Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) I don't quite understand... Where would the other 2 turntables be in the A-model? Can you explain in more details? My fault for my terrible english, the main beam ( that with buckets, battery box, gearbox ecc ) is supported by two large linear actuator but is pivoted to the structure through the vertical horseshoe structure, I think that the two turntables are used for this connection. I hope this image is helpful: https://imageshack.com/i/pm7RLNIkj Edited July 9, 2016 by Alegomind Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 I get it now! I used to think the connections at those 2 points are just pins and holes.. Quote
Alegomind Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 I get it now! I used to think the connections at those 2 points are just pins and holes.. I thought too.. but the beam is quite heavy then I think that if there are other two turntables they are used for .. of course I may wrong Quote
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