Tommy Styrvoky Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Could the orange piece below the dash be for return to center steering with a Hockey spring ? Edited January 28, 2016 by Tommy Styrvoky
Emmi Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Hm, to me it looks like you can actually lock the door - that would be pretty amazing!
Balrog Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 If I were a spectator at this toy show, the first thing that I would have pointed out to whomever was demonstrating there was that the steering wheel is on upside down.. What is it with Lego and putting the steering wheel on upside down..? Even in the offical pictures and boxart for the creator Ferrari the steering wheel is on upside down.. Newbies everywhere. :D We have a saying for that: Einmal mit Profis arbeiten.
Lipko Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Topic is going too fast. Anyway, my theory of a small part of the paddle shifting mechanism:
allanp Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) But where are the actual paddles? And still why the colour coded mess for a set aimed at 16+? Edited January 28, 2016 by allanp
Jetro Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Could the orange piece below the dash be for return to center steering with a Hockey spring ? No, that would be too wide. It's either a technic Beam 2 (00) or (more likely) a technic Beam 2 Liftarm (X0)
allanp Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) No, that would be too wide. It's either a technic Beam 2 (00) or (more likely) a technic Beam 2 Liftarm (X0) No he's talking about the other orange piece that the axle of the steering wheel either goes through or passes under, depending on the shape/size of the orange piece. Edited January 28, 2016 by allanp
Tommy Styrvoky Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) I have more speculation on the paddle shifting mechanism. I think the unknown CV joint has a function in this with another u-joint. Lego Porsche 2016 Reference photo by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr Edited January 28, 2016 by Tommy Styrvoky
Emmi Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 But where are the actual paddles? And still why the colour coded mess for a set aimed at 16+? Remember that the colors will probably change, not just talking about the main color but about the inside too. But we'll see in the next weeks, months ... Also seatbelts would be cool!
Tommy Styrvoky Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Topic is going too fast. Anyway, my theory of a small part of the paddle shifting mechanism: I Think the changeover catch allows it to toggle only when the 0.5x4 beam with boss is all the way back, maybe the other side has a similar mechanism, but rotates the knob gear the opposite direction.I think it's also a pulling motion, not a rotational motion with the paddles, when it's operated,then swings out of the way to toggle it to a new position. Edited January 28, 2016 by Tommy Styrvoky
John Daniels Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Topic is going too fast. Anyway, my theory of a small part of the paddle shifting mechanism: You are correct Lipko, I built a quick mock up, just to see how the door mechanism works around it all. And it all sits under the changeover catch. I still find it strange that they used a changeover catch instead of a two length liftarm, since the square side of the catch is slightly shorter than one stud. So there is extra slop.
Lipko Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) This system will have quite some slack. I'm pretty sure that a frictionless gear selector is needed (my system also had 4 knob gears no CV and U-joints which add even more to the slack). EDIT: @John Daniels: a 2L liftarm has curvy edge so wouldn't work, an axle-bush connector would be too long or weak I guess. The changeover clutch would prevent the actuating beam from the paddle to rotate the knob gear backwards. This system is a bit strange, because you still have to combine two sequential one-way rotation to get the final output, that's going under the seat. Seems to be overkill for a simple paddle-shift mechanism (I, for one would be okay with a solution that actually uses one pendular paddle with end on the two sides of the steering wheel. Really too much hassle to get a perfectly realistic solution that IMHO doesn't add too much extra for an awesome feature). Edited January 28, 2016 by Lipko
Emmi Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 ok, about the color ... this is what autobild.de has to say http://www.autobild.de/artikel/spielwarenmesse-nuernberg-2016-rundgang-8554179.html It seems like LEGO told them a bit more, or we simply haven't heard it yet. The color will indeed be changed, both on the outside and inside as well to mach the real-life Porsche 911 GT3 RS. It will be a very PREMIUM like set and comes with lots of background information about the real-life counterpart. No details about parts count as well as price yet.
Jetro Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 No he's talking about the other orange piece that the axle of the steering wheel either goes through or passes under, depending on the shape/size of the orange piece. The one under the steering wheel still has to fit between the 2 beam 7 so it can only be 1 wide. You can also see it is only 1 high, so the geometry doesn't fit.
Tommy Styrvoky Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 This system will have quite some slack. I'm pretty sure that a frictionless gear selector is needed (my system also had 4 knob gears no CV and U-joints which add even more to the slack). I am mocking up part of the shifting system, I think there's 2 of the knob gears, one for each paddle on each side.
Emmi Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Very interesting gallery from autobild.de - also the information belowe the images confirms what I've said in my previous post http://www.autobild.de/bilder/porsche-gt3-rs-und-speed-champions-von-lego-8575767.html#bild1
scooper22 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) The one under the steering wheel still has to fit between the 2 beam 7 so it can only be 1 wide. You can also see it is only 1 high, so the geometry doesn't fit. I think they're talking about the orange part seen just above the rubber bands: The steering wheel axle would go though the orange part and could thus be auto-centered. Nice idea if true and clever guessing :) Edit: I found an actual implementation of this, learn something new every day... That upsidedown steering wheel on the Porsche, tho... Edited January 28, 2016 by scooper22
UnimogU400fan Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Very interesting gallery from autobild.de - also the information belowe the images confirms what I've said in my previous post http://www.autobild....5767.html#bild1 It says that the Porsche will be available on the 1st half of the year!!!! Could this be possible ??
Emmi Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) It says that the Porsche will be available on the 1st half of the year!!!! Could this be possible ?? I believe that's an error - will be available in August probably ... or maaaaybeeee it will be a D2C set for March, April, May, June or July??? Edited January 28, 2016 by Emmi
Technic_Henry Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Wouldn't that be very bad for the motor? Those spring things are very hard to turn
cloud Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Very interesting gallery from autobild.de - also the information belowe the images confirms what I've said in my previous post http://www.autobild....5767.html#bild1 In the 6th photo there is a direct view into the back of the car. Looks like some kind of large grey enclosed block. I don't recognize it. Doesn't look like existing PF enclosures. Maybe battery/control?
scooper22 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 It says that the Porsche will be available on the 1st half of the year!!!! Could this be possible ?? For people that dont know AutoBILD: The magazine AutoBILD is part of the magazine BILD, which is total gutter press. So don't believe everything they say.
deehtha Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 If you were implementin rts on a car with the orange part, you would have it as close to the rack as possible, as any slack in the system will defeat the purpose
JGW3000 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 For people that dont know AutoBILD: The magazine AutoBILD is part of the magazine BILD, which is total gutter press. So don't believe everything they say. And their sidebar ads are NSFW and NSFC
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